Vapes and Vauxhalls hatred

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SteveStrange said:

Fermit said:

lord trumpton said:

Shouldn't Vauxhalls and Vapers be discussed in the 'council' thread rather than starting a fresh thread?

Succinctly demonstrating the crux of my OP.

Yeah but he's right though.

He's only right in backing up the snobbism (possible made up word) that is prevalent on PH.

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Griffith4ever said:

ColdoRS said:

What in the 39p energy drink is going on here.

I'm so late to the party but laughing so much! :-)

Agreed, it was a clever line. I didn't want to reply earlier as ph has a habit of becoming a pile-on follow the leader.

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georgeyboy12345 said:

Congrats Fermit, you are scum

I'll reply further in a bit, I'm just off out to get a tattoo on my face of an English Bulldog wearing a St Georges Flag.

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Stick Legs said:

I gave up smoking ‘the man’s way’ by just stopping and pushing through the cravings and grumpiness.

I do look down on vapers.
If you are going to smoke have the courage of your convictions & smoke.
If you aren’t going to then stop.

However I am a fat b**stard who likes cake & beer so please feel free to judge my hypocrisy / life choices as appropriate.

Genuine well done for quitting using will-power alone, but for some like me, who have tried multiple methods and always failed then it doesn't feel like an option. Would you look down on an ex-heroin addict being prescribed a drug to substitute their habit? Because smoking, as eluded to prior, is thought to be at least as addictive as it, if not more.

Oh, and user-name definitely doesn't check out

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Richard-390a0 said:

carlo996 said:

In short. Drove what you want. But keep your stty cloud to yourself

+1

Regarding this point, and in particular when driving. I've stated that I attempt to keep my vape 'smoke' away from others, but that I am guilty of using it on occasions when driving. At 60mph in the dry the stopping distance is 120-140 feet. Does one exhale of vape really make it this distance, hit the exact spot your car is at, get through the cabin air filter and cause you that much bother? My Father In Law also has Asthma. He has joked numerous times about the plumes you see coming from cars when driving, yet never once said anything along the lines of 'and it gets right up my nose'.

If it genuinely does then that is something I need to take in to extra consideration.

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Buzypea said:

I was in a friends C Class the other day and it was almost embarrassingly blingy. What’s with the signature on the windscreen

Jesus, that's up there with the Aston 'Power Beauty Soul' message on start up (and I say that aspiring to own a V8 Vantage)

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FiF said:

Now vaping. As a lifelong non smoker again somewhat ambivalent, but there is one thing that makes them worthy of the annoyed beyond all reason thread, and that's litter. Yes cigarette smokers left litter, a tab end. Not acceptable. But every day we find several of these brightly coloured single use vape devices just casually tossed aside. Bit more than a tab end, but a plastic device containing a single use battery with zero chance of decomposing or being recycled.

Ok it's not vapers universally, but utter twonts, should be sterilised to stop them reproducing. Bit extreme maybe, but not much.

No comfort to OP but if seen you'll be called a vape wker. Tough.

What, because of those who litter them, because you don't raise other issues in your post? I have a disposable in the car, for if out and about and somethings up with my regular device. I had a few when my last device packed up, and without fail they were put in to a bag for battery recycling when exhausted.

Edited by Fermit on Saturday 18th March 17:14

Edited by Fermit on Saturday 18th March 17:15

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FiF said:

Fermit said:

What, because of those who litter them?

In part yes, by association, plus the voluminous clouds of whatever. It's just an opinion.

Also you cite getting rid of nicotine, but there are increasing numbers of schoolkids admitting they are addicted to the vapes containing nicotine. Some of them deliver very high levels, extremely addictive. By you vaping you are indirectly encouraging others into a habit which also leads to addiction and littering.

No tars etc but if you want to quit then just effing quit. Easy for me to say, admittedly, having never started. Used to drink, not doing me any good, so quit. Just did it, no ooh I have to have alcohol free or low alcohol, made the decision, bosh.

So opinion unchanged. Sorry. Incidentally was introduced to the term vape wker after hearing it used by a number others, so not just me then.

Regarding the school children point. It is illegal to sell vapes to under 18's. The fines for breaking this law, I'd imagine, will be fairly high. Again, I'd imagine it is a punishable offence to buy them on a minors behalf. I agreed with a statement (Zedleg?) that brightly coloured examples need banning, and also stated that I attempt to not inflict my 'smoke' on others. 'Just effing quit', would you say that to a Heroin addict? Also, when smoking, I needed a cigarette within minutes of waking. I'd imagine what ever issues you had with alcohol the addiction (if there was an element of) wasn't at that level. Finally, litterers will litter anything, whatever it is, they are prize prats. This is an idiotic reason to partly justify users as 'vape wkers'

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fflump said:

LunarOne said:

fflump said:

Buzypea said:

I drive a Vauxhall and occasionally vape if I’ve had a few drinks.

I work in IT for a FTSE 5 company in London and own a 4 bed house in a nice area in the South East; it’s definitely not council. Me and the wife are off to the theatre tonight, and yes, we’re going in the Vauxhall. It’s a 200bhp Astra K, all the toys I need and gets to 60 in 6.6 seconds. I like it, it suits my needs perfectly right now. Why would I go and waste money on a German brand that is only perceived to be better by people who don’t look any deeper than the badge on the boot. You only have to read the “have you blacklisted a manufacturer” thread to see all the people who won’t have another Mercedes or BMW. I was in a friends C Class the other day and it was almost embarrassingly blingy. What’s with the signature on the windscreen?

Thinking back, the last time I vaped was at a private party on the rooftop of the Doubletree by Hilton near London Bridge, not outside some flat roof pub in Slough.

If people look at me in my Vauxhall or while I’m vaping and think I’m council, I think it says a hell of a lot more about them than me.

Brilliant. This is satire I presume?

I was having visions of Hyacinth Bucket when I read that!

Exactly. Surely can’t be real!

except Hyacinth Bucket would never be seen dead in a Vauxhall. 'Above all it's a Rover' Somewhat reminds me of my original point.

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FiF said:

If a heroin addict really wants to get clean, they will do it. They might and probably will need help through certain stages, but they'll do it.

Can't give up smoking or vaping? Weakling. Yes I am being extremely unsympathetic over your supposed impossible 'plight'

As a stated before (and feel free to look it up for yourself) nicotine is fairly widely considered to be at least addictive as heroin, if not more so. So in light of the bold, why would a heroin addict probably need help, but not someone addicted to nicotine not? And please do highlight the post where I stated 'impossible'.

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Hugo Stiglitz said:

My first questions are how are you finding it/is it reliable?

I feel the first point has been covered numerous times, but the latter, very. Probably the most reliable vehicle we/I've run.

Ignoring none consumable/wear and tear items, this is all that has gone wrong in 90K. The drivers heated seat has stopped working, a common problem with the model. An electrical problem which has stopped the parking sensors and telephone voice control working (the problems arose simultaneously) Finally, the power tailgate has stopped functioning. This is thought by us and garages to be damage to the latch which meets with the loop (can't think of the correct term) attached to the body of the car. When opened manually it shuts electronically, but won't clamp locked without a push. This will partly be of our doing, with the amount of crap we've shifted including stuff like rubble. Not keeping on top of tidying this afterwards will have contributed to damaging it. Compare this to my bought new Saxo VTR, 18 warranty jobs alone!

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Rumdoodle said:

As for Vauxhalls, people should be given all the help they need

tt

One which also made me giggle was last week, getting the MOT done on it. In the waiting room one of the staff had a lovely dog. We got chatting on the subject, which lead to talking about the woes of one of ours. An MOT tester there piped up 'all that st he's had to deal with, then you cart him about in a Vauxhall!'

Some other interesting thoughts that aside.

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FiF said:

Bull-shine.

The physical, cognitive and life changing decision making functions as a consequence are not comparable, not even in the same town never mind street or page.

And as you've highlighted not actually using the word impossible that's tantamount to admitting it is possible,just that you choose not to. Which is your choice, true, will still be judged for it though. Tough tit.

You're just using that supposed addiction equivalence as a pathetic little crutch in justification for your habit. No truck with it. Be on your way, along with that cloud of whatever it is vapour if that keeps you happy.

Wow, what a nasty piece of work you are.

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LuS1fer said:

The mystery about vapes is that cigarettes used to be portrayed as "cool" in films with Hollywood perpetrating that myth. Vapes look about as cool as a kid sucking a lolly but smelling worse.

Not aimed at you, because it's been mentioned numerous times, but I'm never under any illusion that my device makes me look cool.

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carlo996 said:

it doesn't. It marks you out as too weak to give up a stupid habit.

Bore off. Smoking was one of my favourite things, and I went through a tough period coming off them (a powerful drug no less) to be eligible for IVF. There really is no need for cheap insults, that makes you the prick.

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Hugo Stiglitz said:

The only part of an Insignia that I didn't like when I hired one was the bizarre cup holder placement... you couldn't get a cup in and shift gear otherwise it was a comfy and capable mile muncher that did 700miles in a weekend for me.

We both agree, when we have the occasional Mc'D drive-through, that the cup holder provisions in it are poor. Not enough to stress about mind. Sarah most months will do the 130 mile run to her olds, and she never complains. She much prefers it for this task than her old Rav4.

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Gordon Hill said:

He has form for posting nothing but nasty, inane comments, it's all he ever does.

Reassuring, cheers. I really see no need for personal digs.

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KurtFlew said:

LuS1fer said:

There's an eBay fix for Vivaro linkages. Cheap too.

Thanks, just ordered one??

This is what PH is good for. Helpful pointers, which I'd be chuffed with if it were my van.

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oceanview said:

The last time i went in a Vauxhall, was, i think, 2017.

We hired a car at last minute to get us from Somerset to Edinburgh. It was a diesel Mokka. I travelled as a rear seat passenger and it had the most uncomfortable seats known to man.

Also, a gutless engine ( though it was economical).

I am just glad that my friend's brother took over the driving, as he has a Dubai licence and didn't give a flying f*ck about speed limits, so we did the journey in about 5 hours later in the day ( instead of the usual 7).

Didn't hate it because it was a Vauxhall- it was just crap.

I had a Vauxhall Vivaro as a temporary replacement for my written off pickup, back in 2007 and that i thought was really good.
Probably because it was actually a re-badged Renault Trafic!

I'd imagine a Mokka would be crap, only a perception. But then again I'd assume the same of a B-Max, or anything else of the ilk. I may be wrong, they just don't provide me any interest. And when I've needed vans I've always had Kangoos, simply because they're (IMO) nicest to drive, a giggle at times even with just 75bhp.
Also, again IMO, Volvo and Renault consistently are the best out there for seats, with IME VW often being rubbish.

Edited by Fermit on Sunday 19th March 20:05

Edited by Fermit on Sunday 19th March 20:06

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oceanview said:

I agree, image is a "nonsense" but, ask most people (certainly, younger) what they would rather have- a Vauxhall or a VW/Audi?
It's not Vauxhall.

I've been young too. A 'badge' is your answer