Vapes and Vauxhalls hatred

Vapes and Vauxhalls hatred

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bodhi

10,491 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Fermit said:
Yep. Just returned from a trip out with Mum. Even though I was doing 70 in a NSL some tool was so close behind me I couldn't see his lights or numberplate. Audi A4 about the same age as ours. Quite handy that I needed to thoroughly clean my windscreen, drenching him too. This resulted in a middle finger in my rear view and a death stare at the next lights, prick.
That's where I find continuing to smoke quite useful is for when someone is too close behind.

I mean you could flick the butt out the window at them which will make them drop back, but that's littering, so not ideal. What I tend to do is squeeze the base of the cigarette between the filter and the cherry, which makes the cherry drop off leaving you with the filter to be disposed of.

Benefit being, mouth breather in the Audi behind will think it's the whole butt, and will drop back anyway.

FiF

44,078 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Isn't this tax vs cost to NHS argument the same as the push to legalise certain illegal and dangerous narcotics so they can be controlled and taxed?

Slogan, "Pay us tax and we'll spend it on people who choose to inhale or inject toxic substances"

That would go well on the side of a big red bus.

rofl

Deranged Rover

3,393 posts

74 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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bodhi said:
That's where I find continuing to smoke quite useful is for when someone is too close behind.

I mean you could flick the butt out the window at them which will make them drop back, but that's littering, so not ideal. What I tend to do is squeeze the base of the cigarette between the filter and the cherry, which makes the cherry drop off leaving you with the filter to be disposed of.

Benefit being, mouth breather in the Audi behind will think it's the whole butt, and will drop back anyway.
I'm guessing flicking an entire disposable vape thing out of the window at them woudl be even more effective, though.

carlo996

5,625 posts

21 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Bore off. Smoking was one of my favourite things, and I went through a tough period coming off them (a powerful drug no less) to be eligible for IVF. There really is no need for cheap insults, that makes you the prick.
Regardless. Smoking/vaping subjects others, to a greater or lesser degree, to the byproduct of your ‘favourite things’. It’s not one of my ‘favourite things’ to inhale your second hand smoke. So if you wanted to define who, and what, is a ‘prick’ ….I’d look a little closer to your selfish home.

As said Vauxhalls do they job.

Fermit

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12,956 posts

100 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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carlo996 said:
Regardless. Smoking/vaping subjects others, to a greater or lesser degree, to the byproduct of your ‘favourite things’. It’s not one of my ‘favourite things’ to inhale your second hand smoke. So if you wanted to define who, and what, is a ‘prick’ ….I’d look a little closer to your selfish home.

As said Vauxhalls do they job.
By implication you're suggesting I show no consideration inflicting my smoke/vape on others, which ain't the case. I have a clear conscience, thanks.

bodhi

10,491 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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911Spanker said:
I probably rather have a conversation with a vaping Vauxhall driver than many posters on this thread to be honest...
Given some of the contributions in the last few posts I'm entirely inclined to agree. It seems like one of the lesser known benefits of nicotine - regular administration seems to avoid development into a sanctimonious ahole.

Fermit

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12,956 posts

100 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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bodhi said:
Given some of the contributions in the last few posts I'm entirely inclined to agree. It seems like one of the lesser known benefits of nicotine - regular administration seems to avoid development into a sanctimonious ahole.
Agreed.

Missy Charm

746 posts

28 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Fermit said:
anonymous said:
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Yep. Just returned from a trip out with Mum. Even though I was doing 70 in a NSL some tool was so close behind me I couldn't see his lights or numberplate. Audi A4 about the same age as ours. Quite handy that I needed to thoroughly clean my windscreen, drenching him too. This resulted in a middle finger in my rear view and a death stare at the next lights, prick.
Oh yes. Some sweaty middle management type actually lost control of his BMW trying to tailgate and/or overtake me once round a corner. I saw his car turn broadside in the rear view mirror, come to a stop and then resume rather sheepishly at a more sensible speed.

Previous

1,446 posts

154 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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The astra gtc vxr is an incredibly good looking car. I was admiring one stuck in traffic one car ahead only recently. They tended to review fairly well iirc (although lost out to the megane 250/265....as did everything in reviews).

Brand wise.... well, clarkson.

Plus lots of mundane stuff. The Germans also produce a vast amount of mundane stuff too though. Somehow mercedes have convinced the general non car public that the Renault engined, Turkish made A160 is a premium German product.


I think vauxhall have just drifted (not in a good way) into a place where they didn't do 'working class heroes' as well as ford (who do tend to make their lesser models relatively fun to drive still), didnt do sporting spin off as well as renaultsport, and suffered as the more premium brands put products into their segment. Same for Honda actually...although they have the Type R, and frequently reinvent the civic into something bonkers looking yet attractive to mrs miggins to buy fir the weekly shop each time.


Vapes. Yuk. Sorry.

Very chivvy image, at least near me.

And the smoke is really annoying (better than cigarettes though, so much better than that).





POIDH

804 posts

65 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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I have fond memories of a friend's MK3 Astra GTE, and ragging the company pool MK4 Astra around Scotland a few times.

But, every Vauxhall since then I've found to have uncomfortable seats - we get Adam, Astra and occasional Vectra as hire cars, friends have a Zafira. I still find the seats just not great, apart from one Astra that had posh seats in.
I also think they are mainly 'built to the budget' white goods, and show with cheap feeling interior, poor sound quality in stereos etc.
I've not been in a posher Vauxhall in many years, they may be better than the hire fare we get.

MGZTV8

591 posts

149 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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I’ve never previously owned a Vauxhall but drove plenty through work albeit crappy Corsa and Astra variants of low spec.

Had this Insignia for a couple of months which was family owned from new, 56000 miles and in 2.0 SRI spec.

I’m actually quite surprised how good it is and will be a stop gap car for a while and I have no complaints.

It suits me down to the ground for what I need a car to do.

Edited by MGZTV8 on Wednesday 22 March 14:13

wildoliver

8,780 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Sorry I'm still stuck on the suggestion of swooning over an insignia......


Fermit

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12,956 posts

100 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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wildoliver said:
Sorry I'm still stuck on the suggestion of swooning over an insignia......
Hs anyone mentioned swooning? I haven't. You would hardly swoon over any family car/rep mobile type wheels, yet VX gets derision on these pages, often unfairly.

wildoliver

8,780 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Fermit said:
And as for the looks, tell me that if you took the Griffin badges off it, and replaced them with something German that people wouldn't be swooning over the looks.

'Our' car -



Edited by Fermit on Thursday 16th March 10:35
Cough. (Not from vaping though)

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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wildoliver said:
Fermit said:
And as for the looks, tell me that if you took the Griffin badges off it, and replaced them with something German that people wouldn't be swooning over the looks.

'Our' car -



Edited by Fermit on Thursday 16th March 10:35
Cough. (Not from vaping though)
When I bought my metallic grey Insignia B, the number of people who accused me of being posh for buying an Audi was crazy, despite seeing the car quite regularly. Probably due to a combination of colour and unfamiliarity. The first time I saw an Insignia B was in 2017, in black and it did turn my head. The newer CLA has a similar look to the rear end.

There is a downside which is that age brings an increasing number of taxi drivers into the fold but that is the same with many big saloons like the Superb and even the more "premium" marques.

wildoliver

8,780 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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LuS1fer said:
wildoliver said:
Fermit said:
And as for the looks, tell me that if you took the Griffin badges off it, and replaced them with something German that people wouldn't be swooning over the looks.

'Our' car -



Edited by Fermit on Thursday 16th March 10:35
Cough. (Not from vaping though)
When I bought my metallic grey Insignia B, the number of people who accused me of being posh for buying an Audi was crazy, despite seeing the car quite regularly. Probably due to a combination of colour and unfamiliarity. The first time I saw an Insignia B was in 2017, in black and it did turn my head. The newer CLA has a similar look to the rear end.

There is a downside which is that age brings an increasing number of taxi drivers into the fold but that is the same with many big saloons like the Superb and even the more "premium" marques.
I totally get it.

You don't want undesirables like taxi drivers in the insignia fold, that's definitely going to give people the wrong impression of the owners. They should know their level in life and use "ordinary" cars like Nissan's. Bloody taxi drivers getting above their station.

carlo996

5,625 posts

21 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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wildoliver said:
I totally get it.

You don't want undesirables like taxi drivers in the insignia fold, that's definitely going to give people the wrong impression of the owners. They should know their level in life and use "ordinary" cars like Nissan's. Bloody taxi drivers getting above their station.
Not how I read it at all, hey ho. Fact is many new cars look similar, because they all follow the same design constraints. Saw a new Peugeot yesterday, was the spit of an Audi.

Fastdruid

8,642 posts

152 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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carlo996 said:
wildoliver said:
I totally get it.

You don't want undesirables like taxi drivers in the insignia fold, that's definitely going to give people the wrong impression of the owners. They should know their level in life and use "ordinary" cars like Nissan's. Bloody taxi drivers getting above their station.
Not how I read it at all, hey ho. Fact is many new cars look similar, because they all follow the same design constraints. Saw a new Peugeot yesterday, was the spit of an Audi.
The classic for that was the BMW 3-series Compact and Vauxhall Astra. Twins separated at birth.




Think the Astra is the one on the right. wink

RazerSauber

2,279 posts

60 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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POIDH said:
I have fond memories of a friend's MK3 Astra GTE, and ragging the company pool MK4 Astra around Scotland a few times.

[Pedant] The Mk3 Astra had a GSi version for the sports one, the GTE moniker was stopped on the Mk2 Astra [/pedant]

QJumper

2,709 posts

26 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Don't know enough about current Vauxhalls to understand the hate, but I have good memories of them. My first car was a hand me down Viva, and my second one was a newer model Viva, that even had a vinyl roof smile

Some years later (late 80's) a friend got a new Carlton, and I remember that being quite luxurious inside.