Vapes and Vauxhalls hatred
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Fermit said:
Yep. Just returned from a trip out with Mum. Even though I was doing 70 in a NSL some tool was so close behind me I couldn't see his lights or numberplate. Audi A4 about the same age as ours. Quite handy that I needed to thoroughly clean my windscreen, drenching him too. This resulted in a middle finger in my rear view and a death stare at the next lights, prick.
That's where I find continuing to smoke quite useful is for when someone is too close behind. I mean you could flick the butt out the window at them which will make them drop back, but that's littering, so not ideal. What I tend to do is squeeze the base of the cigarette between the filter and the cherry, which makes the cherry drop off leaving you with the filter to be disposed of.
Benefit being, mouth breather in the Audi behind will think it's the whole butt, and will drop back anyway.
Isn't this tax vs cost to NHS argument the same as the push to legalise certain illegal and dangerous narcotics so they can be controlled and taxed?
Slogan, "Pay us tax and we'll spend it on people who choose to inhale or inject toxic substances"
That would go well on the side of a big red bus.
Slogan, "Pay us tax and we'll spend it on people who choose to inhale or inject toxic substances"
That would go well on the side of a big red bus.
bodhi said:
That's where I find continuing to smoke quite useful is for when someone is too close behind.
I mean you could flick the butt out the window at them which will make them drop back, but that's littering, so not ideal. What I tend to do is squeeze the base of the cigarette between the filter and the cherry, which makes the cherry drop off leaving you with the filter to be disposed of.
Benefit being, mouth breather in the Audi behind will think it's the whole butt, and will drop back anyway.
I'm guessing flicking an entire disposable vape thing out of the window at them woudl be even more effective, though.I mean you could flick the butt out the window at them which will make them drop back, but that's littering, so not ideal. What I tend to do is squeeze the base of the cigarette between the filter and the cherry, which makes the cherry drop off leaving you with the filter to be disposed of.
Benefit being, mouth breather in the Audi behind will think it's the whole butt, and will drop back anyway.
Fermit said:
Bore off. Smoking was one of my favourite things, and I went through a tough period coming off them (a powerful drug no less) to be eligible for IVF. There really is no need for cheap insults, that makes you the prick.
Regardless. Smoking/vaping subjects others, to a greater or lesser degree, to the byproduct of your ‘favourite things’. It’s not one of my ‘favourite things’ to inhale your second hand smoke. So if you wanted to define who, and what, is a ‘prick’ ….I’d look a little closer to your selfish home. As said Vauxhalls do they job.
carlo996 said:
Regardless. Smoking/vaping subjects others, to a greater or lesser degree, to the byproduct of your ‘favourite things’. It’s not one of my ‘favourite things’ to inhale your second hand smoke. So if you wanted to define who, and what, is a ‘prick’ ….I’d look a little closer to your selfish home.
As said Vauxhalls do they job.
By implication you're suggesting I show no consideration inflicting my smoke/vape on others, which ain't the case. I have a clear conscience, thanks. As said Vauxhalls do they job.
911Spanker said:
I probably rather have a conversation with a vaping Vauxhall driver than many posters on this thread to be honest...
Given some of the contributions in the last few posts I'm entirely inclined to agree. It seems like one of the lesser known benefits of nicotine - regular administration seems to avoid development into a sanctimonious ahole. Fermit said:
anonymous said:
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Yep. Just returned from a trip out with Mum. Even though I was doing 70 in a NSL some tool was so close behind me I couldn't see his lights or numberplate. Audi A4 about the same age as ours. Quite handy that I needed to thoroughly clean my windscreen, drenching him too. This resulted in a middle finger in my rear view and a death stare at the next lights, prick.The astra gtc vxr is an incredibly good looking car. I was admiring one stuck in traffic one car ahead only recently. They tended to review fairly well iirc (although lost out to the megane 250/265....as did everything in reviews).
Brand wise.... well, clarkson.
Plus lots of mundane stuff. The Germans also produce a vast amount of mundane stuff too though. Somehow mercedes have convinced the general non car public that the Renault engined, Turkish made A160 is a premium German product.
I think vauxhall have just drifted (not in a good way) into a place where they didn't do 'working class heroes' as well as ford (who do tend to make their lesser models relatively fun to drive still), didnt do sporting spin off as well as renaultsport, and suffered as the more premium brands put products into their segment. Same for Honda actually...although they have the Type R, and frequently reinvent the civic into something bonkers looking yet attractive to mrs miggins to buy fir the weekly shop each time.
Vapes. Yuk. Sorry.
Very chivvy image, at least near me.
And the smoke is really annoying (better than cigarettes though, so much better than that).
Brand wise.... well, clarkson.
Plus lots of mundane stuff. The Germans also produce a vast amount of mundane stuff too though. Somehow mercedes have convinced the general non car public that the Renault engined, Turkish made A160 is a premium German product.
I think vauxhall have just drifted (not in a good way) into a place where they didn't do 'working class heroes' as well as ford (who do tend to make their lesser models relatively fun to drive still), didnt do sporting spin off as well as renaultsport, and suffered as the more premium brands put products into their segment. Same for Honda actually...although they have the Type R, and frequently reinvent the civic into something bonkers looking yet attractive to mrs miggins to buy fir the weekly shop each time.
Vapes. Yuk. Sorry.
Very chivvy image, at least near me.
And the smoke is really annoying (better than cigarettes though, so much better than that).
I have fond memories of a friend's MK3 Astra GTE, and ragging the company pool MK4 Astra around Scotland a few times.
But, every Vauxhall since then I've found to have uncomfortable seats - we get Adam, Astra and occasional Vectra as hire cars, friends have a Zafira. I still find the seats just not great, apart from one Astra that had posh seats in.
I also think they are mainly 'built to the budget' white goods, and show with cheap feeling interior, poor sound quality in stereos etc.
I've not been in a posher Vauxhall in many years, they may be better than the hire fare we get.
But, every Vauxhall since then I've found to have uncomfortable seats - we get Adam, Astra and occasional Vectra as hire cars, friends have a Zafira. I still find the seats just not great, apart from one Astra that had posh seats in.
I also think they are mainly 'built to the budget' white goods, and show with cheap feeling interior, poor sound quality in stereos etc.
I've not been in a posher Vauxhall in many years, they may be better than the hire fare we get.
I’ve never previously owned a Vauxhall but drove plenty through work albeit crappy Corsa and Astra variants of low spec.
Had this Insignia for a couple of months which was family owned from new, 56000 miles and in 2.0 SRI spec.
I’m actually quite surprised how good it is and will be a stop gap car for a while and I have no complaints.
It suits me down to the ground for what I need a car to do.
Edited by MGZTV8 on Wednesday 22 March 14:13
wildoliver said:
Fermit said:
Cough. (Not from vaping though)There is a downside which is that age brings an increasing number of taxi drivers into the fold but that is the same with many big saloons like the Superb and even the more "premium" marques.
LuS1fer said:
wildoliver said:
Fermit said:
Cough. (Not from vaping though)There is a downside which is that age brings an increasing number of taxi drivers into the fold but that is the same with many big saloons like the Superb and even the more "premium" marques.
You don't want undesirables like taxi drivers in the insignia fold, that's definitely going to give people the wrong impression of the owners. They should know their level in life and use "ordinary" cars like Nissan's. Bloody taxi drivers getting above their station.
wildoliver said:
I totally get it.
You don't want undesirables like taxi drivers in the insignia fold, that's definitely going to give people the wrong impression of the owners. They should know their level in life and use "ordinary" cars like Nissan's. Bloody taxi drivers getting above their station.
Not how I read it at all, hey ho. Fact is many new cars look similar, because they all follow the same design constraints. Saw a new Peugeot yesterday, was the spit of an Audi. You don't want undesirables like taxi drivers in the insignia fold, that's definitely going to give people the wrong impression of the owners. They should know their level in life and use "ordinary" cars like Nissan's. Bloody taxi drivers getting above their station.
carlo996 said:
wildoliver said:
I totally get it.
You don't want undesirables like taxi drivers in the insignia fold, that's definitely going to give people the wrong impression of the owners. They should know their level in life and use "ordinary" cars like Nissan's. Bloody taxi drivers getting above their station.
Not how I read it at all, hey ho. Fact is many new cars look similar, because they all follow the same design constraints. Saw a new Peugeot yesterday, was the spit of an Audi. You don't want undesirables like taxi drivers in the insignia fold, that's definitely going to give people the wrong impression of the owners. They should know their level in life and use "ordinary" cars like Nissan's. Bloody taxi drivers getting above their station.
Think the Astra is the one on the right.
Don't know enough about current Vauxhalls to understand the hate, but I have good memories of them. My first car was a hand me down Viva, and my second one was a newer model Viva, that even had a vinyl roof
Some years later (late 80's) a friend got a new Carlton, and I remember that being quite luxurious inside.
Some years later (late 80's) a friend got a new Carlton, and I remember that being quite luxurious inside.
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