RE: Ford Mondeo ST220 | Shed of the Week

RE: Ford Mondeo ST220 | Shed of the Week

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molineux1980

1,200 posts

219 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I had my heart set on an ST Mondeo, albeit the tdci as a family bus 4 years ago. Found a good looking local example but it wouldn't unlock properly when we went to test drive.

My wife took a shine to a 2.2 diesel mazda 6 Sport next to it, and we ended up buying that. Which turned out to be a disaster and it threw a a DPF fault the second day of ownership. This diagnosed as a stretched cam chain, which the garage refused to replace under warranty.

Eventually got out money back and oddly bought a petrol version of the Mazda 6 Sport (2.5). Its been a trusty family workhorse since, but I do sometimes wonder if I missed out not looking for another ST.

FilH

618 posts

144 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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PistonTim said:
The interior is clearly black?
Not that clear then!


J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Funny how this is £1850 and that slightly ropey Golf GTI Pirelli is over four times more ?

Be interesting to drive them back to back, doubt the Golf is four times better, or anywhere near.

Price aside, I kind of prefer this if I am honest.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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J4CKO said:
Find that more appealing than I thought I would. It looks really well in black on those wheels, got a quiet purposefulness about it.

These model Mondeos are now out of the shed realm by and large as they have largely died off as the youngest example is 15 years old, still see the odd one but are a comparatively rare sight. I had a 1.8 LX in about 2000, about as dull as they get but it was so competent and nice to drive, stupidly sold it to get a Fiat Coupe Turbo which turned out to be a poor example.

Wont be super fast by modern standards, like I said last week about the BMW 523i, these old school N/A sixes, though pleasant are a relic of a bygone era but this will be a bit pokier than the BMW being more powerful, lighter and not saddled with an auto box.

Yeah, good shed this, though looks too good to be called a shed, on the cusp of being a classic really, if folk go mad for ropey old Cortinas then this deserves its place in the sun.


Yeah, I wouldn’t mind this at all - reasonably fast and pretty decent handling plus really roomy. Ford did some great 4-door saloons although this never quite as quick/exciting as the predecessor it had other great qualities like the v6 noise etc

AC43

11,486 posts

208 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Tiglon said:
Numeric said:
Some of the Fords of this era were just such good cars.

I used to drive a lot of different stuff and I often used to lament that people would rather a poverty 318i that could barely accelerate (low powered BMW never make sense to me) with sad M badges cos they had the M-pack rather than something like this, or if the diesel you could get say the Ghia x estate which was a another great car rather than the seemingly ubiquitous low powered A4 Avant.

But they did and here we are with Ford seemingly giving up in so many areas. Shows I knew little about motivations I guess.
With you on this - if you can't afford 6 cylinders, it's a waste of money getting a BMW.

Decent shed this, I'd be tempted.
Totally agree with you on the cylinder thing. When I was growing up, the only 3's to get had 6 pots. The 4 pot petrols were tragic. And don't start me on the 4 pot dag dags.

Anyway, that Mondeo is a great shed; good to drive, correct cylinder count, not chavved up.

AC43

11,486 posts

208 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Deranged Rover said:
Evil.soup said:
What a fantastic shed, always fancied one of these and at this price, it seems like a rather good purchase. A ton of TLC and standard repairs would see it hold it's value rather well I would have thought. I know it would be better with the modifications mentioned, but it's not really worth spending that kind of money on it.

Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Are you really suggesting that something that does 28mpg comes under the category of "something that cripples you at the petrol station"?!!
If ever get anything approaching 30mpg I take a photo to mark the occasion :-)

pquinn

7,167 posts

46 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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MadDog1962 said:
I have a nasty feeling that the underbody corrosion may limit the economic life of this (otherwise quite nice) ST220 to another year.

Fixing the exhaust and suspension bits etc is almost certainly well within the abilities of the average weekend Pistonhead mechanics. However, if it's got rot under the sill covers etc, and places that a picky MoT tester knows where to look it could be the end of the story in 6 months' time.
While I haven't prodded at a Mondeo, if they're like other Ford's it might not be so pessimistic. On other models the sill covers aren't close to anything so don't particularly encourage rot, and the 'underbody corrosion' could well be just minor stuff that won't meaningfully progress beyond cosmetic anytime soon.

I've got one old thing that has had comments about corrosion for years, they always talk about a different bit each time even though it's not been touched in the interim and when you look at it it's all minimal surface stuff in unimportant places.

Howard-

4,952 posts

202 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Indeed, the arches and bottoms of the doors can sometimes go a bit crusty but I don't believe they're known for life-threatening MX5-style rust

boholoblanka

1,863 posts

138 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Just leaves me cold. Uninteresting Ford.

All this talk of Bilsteins and Milltek exhausts? Are you seriously going to spend the car's value again on stuff you'll never see the money back from? That isn't rhe point of shedding.
get them in a breakers yard

wpa1975

8,786 posts

114 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Great shed, well worth saving.

JD2329

480 posts

168 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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This is obviously a long way from being a good example...I would think it optimistic to imagine there being much upside value wise.
Essentially these are fine motors, many of which sadly fall into disrepair - much like this one.
It may be sub £2k but if taken on as a project it could suddenly become not cheap at all.
The fact the seller advertises it as spares or repair with only 6 months MOT tells you all you need to know.

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I’d have one. A friends dad was a master technician at Ford forever, and had an ST-220 for years. Sounded great, and went well enough. I think they’re a looker compared to lots of stuff too. Power output was fine, considering an E46 330i had 10HP more, and was far smaller inside.

Jamescrs

4,479 posts

65 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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As a previous serial Mondeo owner if I was in the market for a shed i'd absolutely buy this.

I've owned a Mk2 Mondeo ST24 and a Mk 3 Ghia X V6 in the same colour scheme as SOTW, one of my favourite cars.

Always fancied an ST220 but never found one when I was in the market for it and bought other cars instead, I did drive an ST220 when they were new, silver with red interior, great cars.

DaveyBoyWonder

2,500 posts

174 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Idle curiosity has sent me to AT looking for them. Jeeez, theres a 54 plate super low mileage saloon with a few questionable modifications for £9.5k!!! Or a standard 06 one for £9k with similar miles.

Nice looking performance blue hatch with 75k miles for £4.5k...

Still think they're a decent looking car.

Court_S

12,932 posts

177 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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AC43 said:
Tiglon said:
Numeric said:
Some of the Fords of this era were just such good cars.

I used to drive a lot of different stuff and I often used to lament that people would rather a poverty 318i that could barely accelerate (low powered BMW never make sense to me) with sad M badges cos they had the M-pack rather than something like this, or if the diesel you could get say the Ghia x estate which was a another great car rather than the seemingly ubiquitous low powered A4 Avant.

But they did and here we are with Ford seemingly giving up in so many areas. Shows I knew little about motivations I guess.
With you on this - if you can't afford 6 cylinders, it's a waste of money getting a BMW.

Decent shed this, I'd be tempted.
Totally agree with you on the cylinder thing. When I was growing up, the only 3's to get had 6 pots. The 4 pot petrols were tragic. And don't start me on the 4 pot dag dags.

Anyway, that Mondeo is a great shed; good to drive, correct cylinder count, not chavved up.
Having experienced the latest 320i with the four cylinder B48 engine, I don’t think that’s changed all that much. It was effective but rather course.

LordIvanhoe

3 posts

43 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I had one of these in gunmetal blue/grey with the red leather interior - my mates called it the speeding brothel!
Lovely car, enjoyed it very much, was very sad to sell it at a pittance when I got a job with a company car and it became surplus to requirements.
Must pick Shed up on one thing, though - later on, we got a next-generation Mondeo (07) with the 2.5 litre 5-cylinder Focus RS/Volvo engine in it, which is also excellent (and rare*, which is why Shed may have missed it) - so the ST220 wasn't quite the last fast saloon/hatchback from Ford!

  • So rare in fact that when we took it to a Ford engine specialist for some TLC a while ago he was amazed 'cos he'd never seen one before, he'd only ever seen the engine in a Focus.. ;-)

stuart100

475 posts

57 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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SteveStrange said:
"It's only done 104k miles"

Photo literally shows 105,005 miles.
Living up to your name here with that post.

wc98

10,391 posts

140 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Deranged Rover said:
Evil.soup said:
What a fantastic shed, always fancied one of these and at this price, it seems like a rather good purchase. A ton of TLC and standard repairs would see it hold it's value rather well I would have thought. I know it would be better with the modifications mentioned, but it's not really worth spending that kind of money on it.

Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Are you really suggesting that something that does 28mpg comes under the category of "something that cripples you at the petrol station"?!!
Based on my experience, an ST220 wouldn't do 28mpg if it was being towed! I replaced mine with an impreza WRX wagon that was a lot more fuel efficient.
I got a cheap Mk2 2.0 16v that a mate that owned a body shop had built for a customer. Said customers wife reversed it into a wall a day after he picked it up from my mate so he sold it in disgust. I was working one Saturday morning ,mate was doing a bike track day at Knockhill so headed up to watch the last session in the car. Chased him back to his place (he on a GSX-R 750) and used 3 gallons of fuel in 42 miles. God knows how bad this one would be when having some fun.

Cornish Pete

70 posts

87 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I had an 06 plate 1.8 (petrol) Zetec as a courtesy car for 3 months or so. Brilliant car. I can imagine these would have been even better back then.

ScoobyChris

1,682 posts

202 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Liked these but couldn’t find one in the right condition at the right price so ended up with a 2.0 TDCi GhiaX with a tuning box instead. Loved that car and did lots of driver training days and a few track days in it too. Not quite the 220, but I didn’t feel too short changed!

Chris