RE: Mirage Countach | The Brave Pill
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Caddyshack said:
aestivator said:
So this is for someone with lots of money, but not enough money for an actual vintage Lambo. Niche, particularly when you could get a newer one for that money.
Let's hope the car is less rotten than the window frames in that house...
How can you get a newer one for that money? I haven’t seen many for sale.Let's hope the car is less rotten than the window frames in that house...
Robertb said:
Caddyshack said:
aestivator said:
So this is for someone with lots of money, but not enough money for an actual vintage Lambo. Niche, particularly when you could get a newer one for that money.
Let's hope the car is less rotten than the window frames in that house...
How can you get a newer one for that money? I haven’t seen many for sale.Let's hope the car is less rotten than the window frames in that house...
LotusOmega375D said:
Caddyshack said:
Sidecar Man said:
Interesting car but wants a good tidy up.The registration assigned belongs (belonged perhaps) to a 1987 model Renault 5 Super Cinq imported from 'outside the EU', presumably meaning left hand drive, and originally blue. The car for sale has a series one (pre 1985) shell fitted with God knows what mechanicals. What's for sale, therefore, is not the car on the V5 and has no right to the registration it displays. Where the shell came from is a mystery, and is presumably the reason for the advert's claim about it being impossible to verify whether it is a 'genuine' Turbo 2. Someone has mentioned that verification would be as simple as checking the chassis plate, leading me to suspect that the chassis plate either isn't there or is the one from the missing blue Super Cinq.
The V5 shows a colour change but not a change of cc to suit the Audi engine.
That car's about as kosher as belly pork.
Edited by Missy Charm on Sunday 19th March 21:07
Caddyshack said:
I am a little surprised by the negative comments about this. I thought people would love a pretty close replica to a poster car. Is it the cost? If it was £30k would people then love it?
Maybe the replica just brings out the snob demographic in PH. If it were a Cobra rep or GT40 would it be the same?
I really can’t see the point of a replica when there’s plenty of decent stuff you can get for the same price or less (and the same applies to Cobras, etc) - all a bit tragic, reallyMaybe the replica just brings out the snob demographic in PH. If it were a Cobra rep or GT40 would it be the same?
85Carrera said:
Caddyshack said:
I am a little surprised by the negative comments about this. I thought people would love a pretty close replica to a poster car. Is it the cost? If it was £30k would people then love it?
Maybe the replica just brings out the snob demographic in PH. If it were a Cobra rep or GT40 would it be the same?
I really can’t see the point of a replica when there’s plenty of decent stuff you can get for the same price or less (and the same applies to Cobras, etc) - all a bit tragic, reallyMaybe the replica just brings out the snob demographic in PH. If it were a Cobra rep or GT40 would it be the same?
Chubbyross said:
essayer said:
bloomen said:
However most people who idolised the Countach in their youth are now in care homes or long gone so you've a higher chance of impressing these days.
The first ones were on sale in 1974! If you had a poster on your wall aged 12 you would be 60 now! 
). What I'd do for an original Countach for sure(I can't fault your tennis poster either by the way!)
. Jon_S_Rally said:
There were plenty of Countach variants over the years, and the shape changed pretty dramatically, so it's easy enough to get confused unless you're a Countach fan (or at least of an age where it was more significant).
It didn't, actually. It changed once, pretty early on to provide more room inside. Shape stayed the same thereafter. They just glued bits on the wheel arches and sills.Caddyshack said:
85Carrera said:
Caddyshack said:
I am a little surprised by the negative comments about this. I thought people would love a pretty close replica to a poster car. Is it the cost? If it was £30k would people then love it?
Maybe the replica just brings out the snob demographic in PH. If it were a Cobra rep or GT40 would it be the same?
I really can’t see the point of a replica when there’s plenty of decent stuff you can get for the same price or less (and the same applies to Cobras, etc) - all a bit tragic, reallyMaybe the replica just brings out the snob demographic in PH. If it were a Cobra rep or GT40 would it be the same?
The replica in the ad is a bit of a weird one. So much of the appeal of the original is tied up in that V12 for me. It's hard to look past a Gallardo if you just want a lambo though.
Edited by hairykrishna on Sunday 19th March 21:51
I'm all for a good rep.
There are replica Porsche 911s and E-types, from the usual suspects, that I'd have in preference to the originals.
Thing is, all such replicas start from a position of genuine appreciation of, and respect for, the relevant marque, and with the idea that they're going to do it even better than the original. Even more E-Type-y. Even more 911-y. The guys at Singer are 911 fanatics.
To that end, your "replica" 911 will start off as a base model old genuine 911, and then will be upgraded using modern rust-proofing, brakes, electronics etc, and, of course, using a genuine manufacturer engine. Obviously, heavily tuned etc, but still a genuine engine. The best modern E-Type reps benefit from a similar degree of obsessiveness, and are stunningly beautiful to boot. Even look at what is being done by a British garage with old Rangies - again, top work.
Such cars are very different from this effort.
For a petrol-head, the unforgivable bit is having the wrong engine.
And the lingering impression that the makers primarily were concerned about the social kudos of being seen (from a distance) to have a Lambo, instead of having a genuine interest in the marque.
And there's something else - if you’re going to make a rep, why not pick the version that reflects when the car you're replicating was at its most elegant, not when it was at its ugliest?
It reminds me of Elvis impersonators.
Faced with a choice between cool early Elvis:
and bloated Vegas Elvis, all Elvis impersonators opt to impersonate Vegas Elvis:
Thus is it with the Countach.
By the end of its life, the poor car was a mess of tacky and ugly body-kits.
But the original origami Countach was one of the most striking and elegant shapes ever penned:
And yet they opted for ugly bloated Countach.
Just no - unless you have a genuine engine, and want to finish the job.
There are replica Porsche 911s and E-types, from the usual suspects, that I'd have in preference to the originals.
Thing is, all such replicas start from a position of genuine appreciation of, and respect for, the relevant marque, and with the idea that they're going to do it even better than the original. Even more E-Type-y. Even more 911-y. The guys at Singer are 911 fanatics.
To that end, your "replica" 911 will start off as a base model old genuine 911, and then will be upgraded using modern rust-proofing, brakes, electronics etc, and, of course, using a genuine manufacturer engine. Obviously, heavily tuned etc, but still a genuine engine. The best modern E-Type reps benefit from a similar degree of obsessiveness, and are stunningly beautiful to boot. Even look at what is being done by a British garage with old Rangies - again, top work.
Such cars are very different from this effort.
For a petrol-head, the unforgivable bit is having the wrong engine.
And the lingering impression that the makers primarily were concerned about the social kudos of being seen (from a distance) to have a Lambo, instead of having a genuine interest in the marque.
And there's something else - if you’re going to make a rep, why not pick the version that reflects when the car you're replicating was at its most elegant, not when it was at its ugliest?
It reminds me of Elvis impersonators.
Faced with a choice between cool early Elvis:
and bloated Vegas Elvis, all Elvis impersonators opt to impersonate Vegas Elvis:
Thus is it with the Countach.
By the end of its life, the poor car was a mess of tacky and ugly body-kits.
But the original origami Countach was one of the most striking and elegant shapes ever penned:
And yet they opted for ugly bloated Countach.
Just no - unless you have a genuine engine, and want to finish the job.
Edited by MF35 on Sunday 19th March 22:17
GeeTeeBee said:
It didn't, actually. It changed once, pretty early on to provide more room inside. Shape stayed the same thereafter. They just glued bits on the wheel arches and sills.
You understand the point I was making though. It's easy for a Lamborghini fan to say "it's so obvious this is a fake", but most normal folk wouldn't even know there was more than one body type, let alone anything else.MF35 said:
I'm all for a good rep.
There are replica Porsche 911s and E-types, from the usual suspects, that I'd have in preference to the originals.
Thing is, all such replicas start from a position of genuine appreciation of, and respect for, the relevant marque, and with the idea that they're going to do it even better than the original. Even more E-Type-y. Even more 911-y. The guys at Singer are 911 fanatics.
To that end, your "replica" 911 will start off as a base model old genuine 911, and then will be upgraded using modern rust-proofing, brakes, electronics etc, and, of course, using a genuine manufacturer engine. Obviously, heavily tuned etc, but still a genuine engine. The best modern E-Type reps benefit from a similar degree of obsessiveness, and are stunningly beautiful to boot. Even look at what is being done by a British garage with old Rangies - again, top work.
Such cars are very different from this effort.
For a petrol-head, the unforgivable bit is having the wrong engine.
And the lingering impression that the makers primarily were concerned about the social kudos of being seen (from a distance) to have a Lambo, instead of having a genuine interest in the marque.
And there's something else - if you’re going to make a rep, why not pick the version that reflects when the car you're replicating was at its most elegant, not when it was at its ugliest?
It reminds me of Elvis impersonators.
Faced with a choice between cool early Elvis:
and bloated Vegas Elvis, all Elvis impersonators opt to impersonate Vegas Elvis:
Thus is it with the Countach.
By the end of its life, the poor car was a mess of tacky and ugly body-kits.
But the original origami Countach was one of the most striking and elegant shapes ever penned:
And yet they opted for ugly bloated Countach.
Just no - unless you have a genuine engine, and want to finish the job.
A lot of that is down to personal taste though. While the Anniversary doesn't do anything for me, neither do the early cars. If I was going to have a Countach, it would have to have the wider arches and rear wing. I have seen pictures of a Mirage without the Anniversary bits, so I assume you could have either.There are replica Porsche 911s and E-types, from the usual suspects, that I'd have in preference to the originals.
Thing is, all such replicas start from a position of genuine appreciation of, and respect for, the relevant marque, and with the idea that they're going to do it even better than the original. Even more E-Type-y. Even more 911-y. The guys at Singer are 911 fanatics.
To that end, your "replica" 911 will start off as a base model old genuine 911, and then will be upgraded using modern rust-proofing, brakes, electronics etc, and, of course, using a genuine manufacturer engine. Obviously, heavily tuned etc, but still a genuine engine. The best modern E-Type reps benefit from a similar degree of obsessiveness, and are stunningly beautiful to boot. Even look at what is being done by a British garage with old Rangies - again, top work.
Such cars are very different from this effort.
For a petrol-head, the unforgivable bit is having the wrong engine.
And the lingering impression that the makers primarily were concerned about the social kudos of being seen (from a distance) to have a Lambo, instead of having a genuine interest in the marque.
And there's something else - if you’re going to make a rep, why not pick the version that reflects when the car you're replicating was at its most elegant, not when it was at its ugliest?
It reminds me of Elvis impersonators.
Faced with a choice between cool early Elvis:
and bloated Vegas Elvis, all Elvis impersonators opt to impersonate Vegas Elvis:
Thus is it with the Countach.
By the end of its life, the poor car was a mess of tacky and ugly body-kits.
But the original origami Countach was one of the most striking and elegant shapes ever penned:
And yet they opted for ugly bloated Countach.
Just no - unless you have a genuine engine, and want to finish the job.
Edited by MF35 on Sunday 19th March 22:17
LotusOmega375D said:
The featured Countach replica is not pretending to be an Anniversary, it’s a look-alike 88.5 (basically a QV with side skirts). The Anniversary looked worse IMO.
Was just going to say that myself! The Anniversary was a huge disappointment for me, in fact it looked like Lamborghini had done their own kit car replica of the Countach. A commendable effort but even I though it was too short at the back and I'll put my hand up to not being exactly a nerd on these things. A comment was made about being made from the original moulds but I can't see the proportions not being right if that was the case.
Plenty of snobbish comments about replicas here but TBF there seem to be snobbish comments about pretty much every make on here so I would take those with a pinch of salt.
It's still a no though.
Plenty of snobbish comments about replicas here but TBF there seem to be snobbish comments about pretty much every make on here so I would take those with a pinch of salt.
It's still a no though.
Jon_S_Rally said:
MF35 said:
A lot of that is down to personal taste though...
d.Edited by Equus on Monday 20th March 09:33
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