RE: Mirage Countach | The Brave Pill

RE: Mirage Countach | The Brave Pill

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blearyeyedboy

6,313 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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I can see why replicas appeal.

You'd have to *really* want a Countach you couldn't afford to pass over toys that could be purchased instead for £70k. I'm not saying there isn't a market but it's going to be rather niche.

It's not atrociously done but it does feel that it'd garner more respect in an original fireglass design with its Chevy block than by pretending to be something it isn't.

aestivator

240 posts

31 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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So this is for someone with lots of money, but not enough money for an actual vintage Lambo. Niche, particularly when you could get a newer one for that money.

Let's hope the car is less rotten than the window frames in that house...

Roman Moroni

991 posts

124 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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The same Company had a F1 replica which was discussed on this thread back in 2017 https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

It appears that it was up for sale priced at £150k. I spotted it one one occasion with the plate F1 TCT. It looks like it hasn't had an MOT since 2019, so perhaps it wasn't money well spent (if it was ever sold)

928 GTS

468 posts

96 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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This or early Gallardo? Not really difficult to decide. Only replica I would spend even half of this is Corvette C3 based Daytona spyder and it would have to be McBurnie body. Same clearly replica design which was used in Miami Vice. Even then it would require engine swap to BMW V12 and 5sp manual to get proper sound and drivability. At least one car in Miami Vice was automatic.

Edited by 928 GTS on Saturday 18th March 21:53

ducnick

1,797 posts

244 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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There is a much nicer Italian replica for sale on PH at the moment…. Just a few quid more expensive, but much more authentic and far better looking…

200Plus Club

10,774 posts

279 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Missy Charm said:
Just type 'Wolf of Wall Street Lamborghini' into a search engine. There are dozens of articles about the car being the real thing. It's been repaired, apparently.
Apologies then, if that's the case, you can understand my disbelief!

Caddyshack

10,870 posts

207 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Well I like it and I get the replica. I you like it an enjoy it then why not?

J4CKO

41,646 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Aren't the real ones a bit ropey anyway ?


Chubbyross

4,550 posts

86 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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J4CKO said:
Aren't the real ones a bit ropey anyway ?
I’d be more than happy to try one.

Dombilano

1,149 posts

56 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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70k for a near 40 year old kit car, nahhhhhh

Every shot of it, there's that sense something is just slightly off, not as bad as the MR2 Ferrari's, but it's definitely there

LotusOmega375D

7,651 posts

154 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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ducnick said:
There is a much nicer Italian replica for sale on PH at the moment…. Just a few quid more expensive, but much more authentic and far better looking…
£450k for any replica is still crazy money.

E30KB

246 posts

65 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Sidecar Man said:
Why would someone in the market for a fake Lambo Countach want a fake Renault 5?

bloomen

6,931 posts

160 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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blearyeyedboy said:
I can see why replicas appeal.

You'd have to *really* want a Countach you couldn't afford to pass over toys that could be purchased instead for £70k. I'm not saying there isn't a market but it's going to be rather niche.
You'd have to be rather affluent, and batty, to risk 70 grand on something that might attract 1 or 2 buyers anywhere near that price when you want to move it on. And they'll hammer you knowing how far out a buy it is.

You may as well get on OnlyFans and save up for the real thing.

Half or considerably less makes it a relatively non-suicidal buy.

Chubbyross

4,550 posts

86 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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I’m sitting here looking at those photos thinking that it’s not a bad replica. Let’s just say hypothetically that this replica was a perfect copy, apart from the engine. I’d still never go near it as I’d consider it utterly naff to own a Countach replica. But why would I happily buy a Cobra replica, and I’d crawl over broken glass to buy a Lister Bell Stratos? I suspect I’m not alone with this contradiction.

200Plus Club

10,774 posts

279 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Chubbyross said:
I’m sitting here looking at those photos thinking that it’s not a bad replica. Let’s just say hypothetically that this replica was a perfect copy, apart from the engine. I’d still never go near it as I’d consider it utterly naff to own a Countach replica. But why would I happily buy a Cobra replica, and I’d crawl over broken glass to buy a Lister Bell Stratos? I suspect I’m not alone with this contradiction.
Very good point, probably related to the fact the original car wasn't actually that good by all accounts and although the values are ridiculous for real ones if you had say half a million to spend on a fantasy garage would you blow it all on an unreliable/impractical 80s "supercar"?
Time and technology moved swiftly on, and there are so many other iconic but usable supercars since.
You'd have a countach perhaps as the 5th or 10th car in a huge collection if you had the money IMHO and not before.

Blib

44,218 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Chubbyross said:
I’m sitting here looking at those photos thinking that it’s not a bad replica. Let’s just say hypothetically that this replica was a perfect copy, apart from the engine. I’d still never go near it as I’d consider it utterly naff to own a Countach replica. But why would I happily buy a Cobra replica, and I’d crawl over broken glass to buy a Lister Bell Stratos? I suspect I’m not alone with this contradiction.
I'm in the same boat as you. I've actually owned a Hawk Stratos replica. But, I would not buy a Mirage.

Nowt as queer as folk. hehe

Chubbyross

4,550 posts

86 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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200Plus Club said:
Chubbyross said:
I’m sitting here looking at those photos thinking that it’s not a bad replica. Let’s just say hypothetically that this replica was a perfect copy, apart from the engine. I’d still never go near it as I’d consider it utterly naff to own a Countach replica. But why would I happily buy a Cobra replica, and I’d crawl over broken glass to buy a Lister Bell Stratos? I suspect I’m not alone with this contradiction.
Very good point, probably related to the fact the original car wasn't actually that good by all accounts and although the values are ridiculous for real ones if you had say half a million to spend on a fantasy garage would you blow it all on an unreliable/impractical 80s "supercar"?
Time and technology moved swiftly on, and there are so many other iconic but usable supercars since.
You'd have a countach perhaps as the 5th or 10th car in a huge collection if you had the money IMHO and not before.
I agree, but let’s up the ante a little and say that the Countach replica was now far better than the original - better chassis, suspension, gearbox, etc. I would still feel uneasy driving a Countach copy than, say, a Dax Cobra or Lister Bell. Maybe there’s something about driving a knock-off status symbol for me. I’d feel the same uneasiness about driving a replica Ferrari or Porsche. I’m not saying I’d like to own a Countach as a status symbol but there’s something so iconic about the original I think any copy would be sacrilegious.

But how would I feel about a perfect replica of a Miura, for me the most beautiful car ever designed? Not sure. Possibly it would constantly remind me that I’ll never own an original, sadly.

IJWS15

1,855 posts

86 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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A replica badged as an original is like so much of today’s society - plastic surgery, photoshopping, fake designer goods…. Someone, no doubt someone who can’t really afford the asking price, will buy it to pose in.


ducnick

1,797 posts

244 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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LotusOmega375D said:
ducnick said:
There is a much nicer Italian replica for sale on PH at the moment…. Just a few quid more expensive, but much more authentic and far better looking…
£450k for any replica is still crazy money.
Well if you can’t stretch to £450k for a replica, then this Italian replica is a £100k cheaper ! I would prefer to live in a caravan towed by this PurSang rather than live in a nice house with the Lamborghini replica in the garage. Sadly the wife said no to both options.


Edited by ducnick on Sunday 19th March 08:33


Edited by ducnick on Sunday 19th March 08:37

Caddyshack

10,870 posts

207 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Sidecar Man said:
Interesting car but wants a good tidy up.