RE: Mercedes-AMG S600 | PH Private Area

RE: Mercedes-AMG S600 | PH Private Area

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leef44

4,388 posts

153 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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JJJ. said:
Different cams, pistons and rods for just a 30bhp increase...you got to wonder.
Epic exhaust sound matched by an epic asking price and totally unsuited for a Limo. Makes no sense at all.
Quite agree. It's not as though the 6.0 V12 was coming out of a coma let alone under any stress with that specific output.

NathanChadwick

290 posts

41 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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For those whinging about the price for an AMG, let me refer you to this record result a few weeks ago.
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles/am23_0...
New record for an AMG of the pre-2000 era.
Not an anomaly either, as there was another for a similar price 20 lots before.


Dapster

6,937 posts

180 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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That racket coming from an S Class is all a bit, well, uncouth isn't it?

If I wanted a breathed over W140, I'd go for an AMG 7.0 V12 with over 500bhp like this looking as standard as possible.




BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Love a car with lots of buttons to press.

This has got to be pretty close to the top of the pile on that front....
It's got to be up there


SDK

889 posts

253 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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S600BSB said:
Trusty Steed said:


Im currently fiddling about with this slightly older S Class! Way cooler IMO!
Agree! Beautiful motor.
Twoshoe said:
Oof - that's lovely. Lwb I would guess but what engine out of interest? My dad had a humble 280SE a long time ago.
So, retro cars with huge front grills are okay, but new cars with similar size grills are the design of idiots confused

el romeral

1,053 posts

137 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Dapster said:
That racket coming from an S Class is all a bit, well, uncouth isn't it?

If I wanted a breathed over W140, I'd go for an AMG 7.0 V12 with over 500bhp like this looking as standard as possible.




BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Love a car with lots of buttons to press.

This has got to be pretty close to the top of the pile on that front....
It's got to be up there




Imagine trying to find all those functions on an ipad

cabbagekitten

7 posts

61 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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every single body panel is off somehow. Looks really scruffy. I wouldn't drop £50k on it. maybe half that

Dr G

15,175 posts

242 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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JJJ. said:
Dr G said:
JJJ. said:
Makes no sense at all.
Which is exactly why it's wonderful.
55k ''wonderful'' ?
Could well be.

Looking at the prices early AMGs have been making recently and I'm not at all surprised by that number.

If I'm honest I guessed 40 odd, but it's rare, there are collectors around, it's eligible for US export...

55palfers

5,910 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Dapster said:
It's got to be up there

...and I bet the buttons will all be working in 20 years time

JJJ.

1,240 posts

15 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Dr G said:
JJJ. said:
Dr G said:
JJJ. said:
Makes no sense at all.
Which is exactly why it's wonderful.
55k ''wonderful'' ?
Could well be.

Looking at the prices early AMGs have been making recently and I'm not at all surprised by that number.

If I'm honest I guessed 40 odd, but it's rare, there are collectors around, it's eligible for US export...

40k from 55, 25+% reduction...

I wonder how the car would fair price wise in the U.S., presuming the USP exhaust system is Cat delete and presumingly again the hydraulic suspension (SLS) had been deleted in favour of what the seller calls 'coil overs'.
Both possibly mute points as this car seems to be marked for sale in U.K. and think any comments made about the price was based on that.
One thing to my mind, if the car was totally original, as left the AMG agent in Japan I reckon it would would have greater saleability, the epic sounding exhaust system and the aftermarket suspension have done it no favours imo.
And let's be honest what are you getting for the AMG input...30 bhp on to top of 400 bhp, some exterior trim and a few trinkets, I'm unsure but that's all I can make out from the advert.

The bottom line for me is the seller is chancing his arm and knows it too, supported by a nice sales promotion courtesy of PH.



Edited by JJJ. on Wednesday 22 March 11:36

Dr G

15,175 posts

242 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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It is neither an objectively sensible purchase nor a museum piece, but I really don't think it's trying to be.

My opinion on its value is irrelevant as I don't want to buy it, but I can see why somebody would and I say fair play to them.

DaveyBoyWonder

2,502 posts

174 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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bumskins said:
55 GRAND?! eekrofl
Kinda a cool car but that was my first thought as well. Had a quick search and theres a slightly ropey/leggy looking S-class coupe for £20k on AT... does the lower mileage, the fact its a saloon and an expensive exhaust make it worth £35k more? No idea....

jet_noise

5,650 posts

182 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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el romeral said:
Holy cow, you could still hear that into the middle of next week - and then he found a tunnel! It sounded way more F1 than I thought it would.

Edited by el romeral on Tuesday 21st March 21:17
+1
I thought the article was somewhat hyperbolic but it does indeed sound very F1.

PistonBroker

2,419 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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edpratt said:
For anyone else who wanted to hear the thing there's a video floating around the internets..

https://fb.watch/jp7f8oBxyW/
I've loved this car since I first saw that vid.

Judging by the tone of other comments, I'm a foolish young-un - almost 45! I recall my old man wasn't impressed when I excitedly showed it to him a while back either.

Now I know its for sale I need to work out how to get my hands on it!

Also an ideal candidate for my recurring daydream of 'cool LHD cars to go to Le Mans in'.

The Dictator

1,370 posts

140 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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It's ridiculous and I love it for that. I don't care what the price is as I'm not in the market. I enjoy that it exists and someone has done it. The world is a better place for things like this.

I have heard and seen it before, as I am a Mercedes fan, but that sound is just phenomenal.

This is my 41 year old W126 500 SEL, I have had the exhaust customised so that the 5.0 V8 sounds pretty brutal, but for a few hundred pounds, not $12,000 :-)


GTRene

16,551 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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55palfers said:
Dapster said:
It's got to be up there

...and I bet the buttons will all be working in 20 years time
I like buttons, but that many would drive me nuts lol, although for me easier then modern computer-ish cars with all their menu's.

one of the nicest classic consoles I think are those from the BMW 3.0 csi E9 likes, not a perfect example but nice and clean






pSyCoSiS

3,597 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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What a car and that M120 is a benchmark engine. Back in the early 90s, that engine was developing over 400 BHP at a time where some hyper cars were just managing those figures.

I have a 1992 model 600 SEL, but needs some fettling and TLC to get back on the road. These really are crying out for a 5 speed gearbox as they rev a little high when in 4th. The V12 sings and has its own character.

I do love the sound of this one in the article, and it would be a great thing to hook every now and then. But, like others have said, it would get annoying when you just wanted to waft along quietly in double glazed comfort. Perhaps if they could do a switchable exhaust like on some omen cars, that could appeal more.

Miguelcordez

2 posts

16 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I remember in 2015 4* classics had an s70 AMG for £17k only reason I didn't buy it was because it was a left hooker what a dumb ass I feel now

PistonTim

511 posts

139 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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pSyCoSiS said:
What a car and that M120 is a benchmark engine. Back in the early 90s, that engine was developing over 400 BHP at a time where some hyper cars were just managing those figures.

I have a 1992 model 600 SEL, but needs some fettling and TLC to get back on the road. These really are crying out for a 5 speed gearbox as they rev a little high when in 4th. The V12 sings and has its own character.

I do love the sound of this one in the article, and it would be a great thing to hook every now and then. But, like others have said, it would get annoying when you just wanted to waft along quietly in double glazed comfort. Perhaps if they could do a switchable exhaust like on some omen cars, that could appeal more.
Article says it is switchable. Assume the clips are all with it fully open.

Porscheandrangerover

102 posts

53 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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The Dictator said:
It's ridiculous and I love it for that. I don't care what the price is as I'm not in the market. I enjoy that it exists and someone has done it. The world is a better place for things like this.

I have heard and seen it before, as I am a Mercedes fan, but that sound is just phenomenal.

This is my 41 year old W126 500 SEL, I have had the exhaust customised so that the 5.0 V8 sounds pretty brutal, but for a few hundred pounds, not $12,000 :-)

Love this!!!

Mezzanine

9,215 posts

219 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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The Dictator said:
It's ridiculous and I love it for that. I don't care what the price is as I'm not in the market. I enjoy that it exists and someone has done it. The world is a better place for things like this.

I have heard and seen it before, as I am a Mercedes fan, but that sound is just phenomenal.

This is my 41 year old W126 500 SEL, I have had the exhaust customised so that the 5.0 V8 sounds pretty brutal, but for a few hundred pounds, not $12,000 :-)

Superb.

Also fitting of your nomenclature.