RE: MST blows our minds with incoming Metro 6R4

[Dave Hedgehog]

all of a sudden being a pleb with no money is a problem ...

i want one soooo much

in will gollop livery please

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 22 March 12:25

[Carlos24]

Amazing, I had an S4 avant with this engine and it was an awesome piece of kit with a pulley swap and remap. It was mated to a DSG as well so paddleshift will probably be an option.

[sjc]

normalbloke said:

This is what I remember, trips to Brands Hatch to watch the spectacle. The acceleration figures were quite something for the day.

Yep, accelerated quicker than a F1 car to 100mph... on gravel.

[PAUL.S.]

The next obvious one is the RS200

Although there are kit versions out there already, original spec panels are available and these lads already have access to suitable engines etc

[CanAm]

See the other PH thread. Audi 3-litre V6.

[gruppeb86]

Super smashing great. Something with character. Love it!

[Matt_T]

or... https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/131357/1...

[British Beef]

I used to have one of these....... well nearly...... mine was the Metro 1.1S :-) Never did figure out what S stood for.

Back in the good old days when I could fill the tank and still have change from £20 for a Mars bar and coke!!!

[Midgster]

OK, now I really wish I'd worked harder at school! That is simply the coolest piece of motoring news I have read in a long time. A brand new, road legal 6R4, with real life running costs and reliability.

[Lotobear]

normalbloke said:

Caddyshack said:

b14 said:

Wulf Sternhammer said:

Engine wise, what about Jags supercharged V6? It certainly makes all the right noises.

It's a pretty big lump, if you are putting it in you might as well shove in the 5 litre V8 since they are the same size. They do make good noises though and can do 400bhp easily.

Would the engine bay be long enough for a V8? I think that was the reason they went V6 although I think there was talk of a v8 originally.

A Russell Savory V8, certainly..

Russell has turned his interest to owls these days ISTR

[wpa1975]

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[S600BSB]

Lovely

[WCZ]

I think £300k is good value, especially in contrast with the £720,000 subaru resto - https://www.appreciating-classics.com/car/prodrive...

[normalbloke]

wpa1975 said:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Exactly, thread already running, can the Mods lock this one please…..

[EdR]

British Beef said:

I used to have one of these....... well nearly...... mine was the Metro 1.1S :-) Never did figure out what S stood for.

Back in the good old days when I could fill the tank and still have change from £20 for a Mars bar and coke!!!

Excuse me, don't mean to burst your bubble but I think you'll find that your Metro 1.1S was not like one of these, whereas my MG Metro 1.3 was almost an exact replica (bar the bodywork, engine, transmission, interior, and probably being >400bhp down). If you look at the link above to the one on Race Cars Direct, it clearly states that it is a 'MG Metro 6R4'

Reckon your good old days were better than mine though, what with you being able to fill the tank - I used to try and scrabble together £5 with a mate of mine which gave us enough petrol for the week - the joys of being 17!

[donkmeister]

thegreenhell said:

If you're trying to build a new one from scratch, there's no off-the-shelf transmission available to replicate the unique 4WD layout on these, and even a 2WD would be difficult to do in the space available. The original 6R4 isn't mid-engined; the engine sits on top of the rear axle, literally. There isn't room to have the engine in the middle with gearbox behind, so the gearbox was in front of the engine with a short offset propshaft from the transfer case to the rear diff, which was bolted to the side of the engine sump, with one driveshaft passing through the sump. You'd need an original 6R4 gearbox and transfer case, then a modified pass-through sump on whatever engine you chose to use.

The easiest route to a mid-engine Metro would be to use a transverse setup and just be RWD. I've seen one with a transverse Rover V8 on a Rover 200 Turbo gearbox in a modified MGF subframe, but the choices of transverse engine/gearbox are almost limitless.

Would the 4wd system in longitudinal Audis work, with the final drive inverted? A mate had an A6 with a V6 and the engine was soooo far forward in the engine bay, that once reversed I'd expect the engine - axle placement in a 6R4 could be close enough to fettle the final few cm with CV joints.

If not that, perhaps a Subaru 4wd system? I seem to recall they have the engine in front of the gearbox.

[Gecko1978]

WCZ said:

I think £300k is good value, especially in contrast with the £720,000 subaru resto - https://www.appreciating-classics.com/car/prodrive...

Agree when you put it like that and I recall thr stratos based on a ferrari 360 was similar 500k plus

[jwwbowe]

Oooo the want is strong here. Do we go Computer Vision or Rothmans livery or to hell with it and paint it all black

[Hol]

normalbloke said:

wpa1975 said:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Exactly, thread already running, can the Mods lock this one please…..

THIS one has a more accurate opening feature though.

Everyone on the other thread is asking - what engine?

[Hol]

CanAm said:

See the other PH thread. Audi 3-litre V6.

A lot more information besides:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...