RE: BMW 325i Touring (E30) | Spotted

RE: BMW 325i Touring (E30) | Spotted

Wednesday 29th March 2023

BMW 325i Touring (E30) | Spotted

As projects go, this should be a damn sight easier than the one-man mission that created the original


Is the new BMW M3 Touring out of reach? Well, I’ve got something slower, less well-equipped, more likely to break down, less crashworthy and, as estates go, not really that practical. But – and here’s the wonderful thing about the idiocy of loving cars – it might be just as, if not more, pleasurable to own. That’s not a guarantee, mind, but what's guaranteed for those on a budget is that this BMW 325i Touring is a lot, lot cheaper than a new G81. In fact, this is so cheap I had to do a bit of a double-take when I saw how clean it looks.

Sure, it has 122,000 miles on the clock but it’s 35 years old. What did you expect? And when you average that out it’s only 3,500 miles per year, which is nothing. Yet in the cover photo it looks really tidy, but then my usual scepticism appeared and I put that down to viewing it on my phone's tiny screen. Of course a 35-year-old E30 for £5,995 isn’t going to be that clean; it’ll have brown acne covering its white bodywork when I zoom in. So I did, but blow me down, nothing of consequence there. Even the rear wheel arches are smooth and white, which is rarely the case.

To me, it all points to this car’s home being mainly a dry garage rather than a street, but I’m not pretending it’s immaculate. It has signs of a life lived, such as the little scrape on the bumper rubber on its nearside front corner and, just above that, a corresponding small dent in the wing. A minor parking blunder, though, rather than a sign of wilful abuse. I’ll wager a rare parking woe, too, bearing in mind how tidy the alloys are after all those years. Some new propellers for the centre caps wouldn’t go amiss, though.

Having said all that, it's often the interior pics – rather than the exterior shots – that cause me to draw breath when a car’s been around as long as this one. You can look after the paintwork by choosing wisely where you park and regular polishing, but wear and tear on seat bolsters is almost inevitable. Well, this one’s showing some wear, fair enough, but no tears. Remarkably, the driver’s seat bolster is all velour with no sponge peeping though, and as for the rest of the interior it’s highly respectable. The only sign of the miles is the top section of the steering wheel, which is quite shiny and a wee bit bald.

It's not only the condition that makes this car stand out. Obviously, it’s an E30 and most of us have a soft spot for those, but the Touring is especially handsome. And the story about how the wagon came to be is interesting, too. If you’ve not heard it before, I’ll give you the short version. It was the result of a one-man skunkworks operation called Max Reisböck. He was a BMW employee in the mid-‘80s and at that time BMW didn’t do an estate car. But Reisböck and his wife had two kids, and when it came to the family’s summer holiday he needed more space  – not just for luggage, but bikes and the like.

I don’t know about you, but if I needed more space, I’d probably have bought a Volvo estate. Clearly, Reisböck’s brain is more lateral and impressive than mine. Although, in my defence, I’m not a BMW prototype engineer. He was, which meant he had the necessary skills to do something pretty out there: he cut the back off an E30 saloon. It was a 323i he’d bought used, and he made it into an estate. This wasn’t some lash up, either. It was a properly engineered and well-finished conversion. It was so well done, in fact, that after he drove his estate to work the BMW board finished a meeting early to have a look. They said build it, and told the designers not to mess with the shape. Naturally they tried to – designers cannot help themselves – but they had their wrists slapped and the E30 Touring went into production in 1987 looking by and large the same as Reisböck’s original.

Right, that was a bit of a tangent, sorry. Back to this example. The other reason this car is so appealing is it’s a 325i, which means six, smooth cylinders and plenty of torque. No doubt appreciated by a previous owner, judging by the tow bar on the back. And it’s a manual gearbox. I am not sure how rare that combination was back then, but I think it represents a good find today. It also has an optional electric roof, electric front windows, the original handbooks and two keys. So where’s the catch? Surely there is one? £5,995 for a sought-after car that appears to be in good shape is too good to be true these days. Well, rather than a catch, let’s call it a clarification. The advert states:

‘On first inspection the car looks to be in very sound order but was last used in 2016 so will require recommissioning mechanically before going back on the road and therefore is sold as a project. The car runs and drives but will need to be trailered away.’

Here’s the thing: the fact that it drives and runs tells me there's at least some life left in the old dog yet, and I just cannot believe it’s completely rotten underneath when it’s that good up top. I’ll repeat what I said at the start, ‘that’s not a guarantee,’ but it’s often trims and interior pieces that are the hardest to source and you shouldn’t need too many of those. So as projects go, I’m going to hedge my bets here and suggest this one’s not going to be too involved. Almost certainly it'll be far less involved than the mega project Max Reisböck embarked on all those years ago – the one that created the car you see here. It's gotta be worth a punt, right?


Specification | BMW 325i Touring (E30)

Engine: 2,494cc, straight six, naturally aspirated
Transmission: five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive 
Power (hp): 170 @ 5,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 163 @ 4,300rpm
CO2: N/A
MPG: 30 (ish)
Recorded mileage: 122,000
Year registered: 1988 
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £5,995

See the original advert here

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Billy_Whizzzz

Original Poster:

2,008 posts

143 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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One of the best looking cars ever made. Miss mine, but just don’t think I’d use it if I still had it.

2 GKC

1,899 posts

105 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Proper poverty spec on that

howardhughes

1,009 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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You cannot beat the sound of a straight six. I owned three E30's one standard spec 325i, the other two were Sports MTEC2's. The last one I had was Lachs silver, and It got me third place at BMW Car Club concours. Absolutely gorgeous cars.

dimots

3,088 posts

90 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I wouldn’t agree that this is less crashworthy than a new M3 based on my own experiences of e30s on wet roundabouts.

The engine bay pic also misses the main rust point where the window drains into the firewall. Instantly suspicious of that.

Still, 325i manual touring is a nice find…regardless of colour and spec.

AmyRichardson

1,081 posts

42 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Got traipsed around the UK in a similarly modest spec, grey 325i touring (people forget how sparse most BMWs were) in the late 1980s. Cord seats and all. Apparently you don't need a deathstar on wheels to accommodate a family of four with hobbies and a shnauzer, though the XM that followed seemed very plush in comparison.

cerb4.5lee

30,665 posts

180 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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This was always my favourite engine in the E30, and I'd have this engine over the M3's 4 cylinder as well. I've always been a big fan of the E30 shape too. I'm not sure I'd buy this actual example though, and I'd rather drive my car away from the dealership than have to get a trailer for it.

Rich Boy Spanner

1,316 posts

130 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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One of my favourite BMW designs, and the last that I ever liked. Perfect combination with it being a 325i.

SpudLink

5,796 posts

192 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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In '95 I bought a late (1992 i think) model one of these, with higher spec wheels and a few more buttons. But basically the same car.

I only bought it because I needed something that could carry a large dog, but I loved it. In 5 years of ownership I never got bored of driving it (even though it smelled of wet German Shephard).

dimots said:
I wouldn’t agree that this is less crashworthy than a new M3 based on my own experiences of e30s on wet roundabouts.
The E30 Touring is the only car in which I lost control through aquaplaning. A big front end impact (enough to damage the engine block) but i stepped out unhurt. So maybe it wouldn't get a good NCAP rating in 2023, it wasn't a death trap.

ballans

791 posts

105 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Lovely cars, had a couple of 325s and the engine is a gem.
The price of this one is very tempting indeed.
They do rust badly underneath but given how much good ones are going for it would probably make a good investment. As mentioned earlier the bulkhead is the real problem area. If rust has got there it will kill it or turn it into a full restoration.

nismo48

3,688 posts

207 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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2 GKC said:
Proper poverty spec on that
Basic spec perhaps less aggro in recomissioning.. scratchchin

sidewinder500

1,146 posts

94 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Worked at BMW prototype under Max Reisböck in 86 as an apprentice before uni, was a seriously funny guy with loads of car knowledge.
Was like a kid in the candy store for me then, great times!

Pereldh

542 posts

112 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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"plenty of torque" well all is relative.. smile

Trusty Steed

291 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Ill be waking my 325i ragtop up this weekend and getting her out of the Carcoon. May be even stretch her legs if its not raining

Edited by Trusty Steed on Wednesday 29th March 09:18

benjidog

84 posts

61 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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A friend of mine had one of these a few years back. Couldn't believe how small it felt inside compared to a modern 3 series wagon. Cool cars though.

McRors

279 posts

56 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Wonderful cars, especially in green with leather and the autobox. The perfect Sloane ranger car, if you remember them.

Water Fairy

5,504 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Loved my E30 320i 'coupe' back in the day. Not great in the snow mind.................

ballans

791 posts

105 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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sidewinder500 said:
Worked at BMW prototype under Max Reisböck in 86 as an apprentice before uni, was a seriously funny guy with loads of car knowledge.
Was like a kid in the candy store for me then, great times!
Wow, good claim to fame. I love these cars so if you have any insider tittle tattle I’d be very interested in hearing more.

smilo996

2,793 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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such a great looking car both inside and out. Preferably not in white but otherwise, what a gem.

Mr_Sukebe

375 posts

208 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I owned a silver 325i touring around 20 years ago.
Unfortunately, it was fairly easily the worst car I've ever owned.
In theory, it had done just under 100k and it looked mint when I bought it. By the time I got rid, I was fairly convinced that someone had knocked a 1 off the front of the mileage.
Just no end of trouble with various bits on the engine. Just a monthly cycle of warning lights and fixes.

To add to the above, the clutch was really heavy and I also managed to swap ends around a damp roundabout, despite just tootling around the one in question. Lastly, I took it to a get together at a rolling road. Made all of 153hp...

Having said all of that, I think that mine had just been abused by previous owners and if the car had no had the faults that mine had, it was actually really good. I loved the look of it, had adequate levels of room, only weighed around 1200kg, was comfortable, handled and rode well and included the things that you most need, i.e. power steering, electric windows, sunroof etc. I know that we take those for granted now, but that wasn't always the case and frankly, most of the additional stuff we have now are just fripperies.

Evil.soup

3,595 posts

205 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I do love this, even in a basic spec. It has the right engine and shouldn't give you any significant dramas.

Rust of course is the issue and if it simply needed a good 2 grands worth of polish and rudimental maintenance to get it back to road worthy, I would imagine the garage would be doing so because that would see a good profit.

If rusty though, it would be a ball ache for a garage to play with, so I have a feeling this could be the case...