RE: New Toyota GR Yaris revealed with 280hp

[cerb4.5lee]

CG2020UK said:

Glenn63 said:

ecsrobin said:

bennno said:

Same money

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023113044...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024030572...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024011254...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024032077...

How’s the warranties on the cars listed?

Some really boring mundane choices there surely you could have come up with better than that to make your point? I’d take the Yaris over all of them.

Not a bad car on that list!

Just personal preference on what you pick.

Spot on. I'd personally have all 4 of those cars over the GR Yaris if I was spending my own money. However...as you say it just boils down to personal preference and what you prefer I think though.

Plus I'm not sure if a GR Yaris would be big enough for me as a daily driver, and then I'm not completely sure if I would think that it was special enough as a weekend/occasional car either though.

I love my F82 M4 as a daily, however I wouldn't want it as my weekend/occasional car though for example, because personally I don't think that it is special/different enough for that.

[bennno]

cerb4.5lee said:

Spot on. I'd personally have all 4 of those cars over the GR Yaris if I was spending my own money. However...as you say it just boils down to personal preference and what you prefer I think though.

Plus I'm not sure if a GR Yaris would be big enough for me as a daily driver, and then I'm not completely sure if I would think that it was special enough as a weekend/occasional car either though.

I love my F82 M4 as a daily, however I wouldn't want it as my weekend/occasional car though for example, because personally I don't think that it is special/different enough for that.

I think this is what id actually buy for £45k if 4wd / 4 seats / hatchback wasn't the requirement.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202401155...

[ecsrobin]

cerb4.5lee said:

Spot on. I'd personally have all 4 of those cars over the GR Yaris if I was spending my own money. However...as you say it just boils down to personal preference and what you prefer I think though.

Plus I'm not sure if a GR Yaris would be big enough for me as a daily driver, and then I'm not completely sure if I would think that it was special enough as a weekend/occasional car either though.

I love my F82 M4 as a daily, however I wouldn't want it as my weekend/occasional car though for example, because personally I don't think that it is special/different enough for that.

And yet you like them enough to post on every single GR Yaris thread…….

[cerb4.5lee]

ecsrobin said:

And yet you like them enough to post on every single GR Yaris thread…….

I do enjoy chatting about them and seeing them out on the road when I do for sure.

[cerb4.5lee]

bennno said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Spot on. I'd personally have all 4 of those cars over the GR Yaris if I was spending my own money. However...as you say it just boils down to personal preference and what you prefer I think though.

Plus I'm not sure if a GR Yaris would be big enough for me as a daily driver, and then I'm not completely sure if I would think that it was special enough as a weekend/occasional car either though.

I love my F82 M4 as a daily, however I wouldn't want it as my weekend/occasional car though for example, because personally I don't think that it is special/different enough for that.

I think this is what id actually buy for £45k if 4wd / 4 seats / hatchback wasn't the requirement.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202401155...

They would make a very nice weekender I agree. Although from what I read they have also been developed to make a good daily driver as well. One of my close mates loved the one he had too.

[Glenn63]

cerb4.5lee said:

CG2020UK said:

Glenn63 said:

ecsrobin said:

bennno said:

Same money

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023113044...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024030572...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024011254...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024032077...

How’s the warranties on the cars listed?

Some really boring mundane choices there surely you could have come up with better than that to make your point? I’d take the Yaris over all of them.

Not a bad car on that list!

Just personal preference on what you pick.

Spot on. I'd personally have all 4 of those cars over the GR Yaris if I was spending my own money. However...as you say it just boils down to personal preference and what you prefer I think though.

Plus I'm not sure if a GR Yaris would be big enough for me as a daily driver, and then I'm not completely sure if I would think that it was special enough as a weekend/occasional car either though.

I love my F82 M4 as a daily, however I wouldn't want it as my weekend/occasional car though for example, because personally I don't think that it is special/different enough for that.

They all just seem like daily grind auto do the job cars, a nice place to rack up some miles no doubt. Where as the Yaris I’d get up early to take the long route.

[MB140]

Deep Thought said:

leglessAlex said:

Absolute fking wkstains.

I don't have the last one because I couldn't have one of the last ones, I don't have the required amount of limbs for a manual transmission. And because of that I can't have the new one I was really looking forward to? aholes.

Oh, of course I could have joined the wait list for a car two years ago before it was announced it would have an auto...

Its just for the 2024 allocation.

Presumably you can order one for after that.

Not according to the email I got today from my local Toyota who I expressed an interest with about a year ago.

2025 apparently will be those that don’t get one in 2024 but meet 2024 criteria, any remaining will be balloted out to those that have expressed an interest.

Basically my Toyota dealer who we have bought a couple of cars / Hilux through and expressed an interest for a Yaris with has said no chance.

He seemed to think If Toyota think there is enough demand they may produce more. But who knows. As I said earlier at the prices quoted it’s not for me.

[RSstuff]

Glenn63 said:

Where as the Yaris I’d get up early to take the long route.

Preferably while it was still dark. No doubt it's a great car, but pretty it ain't.

[CoolHands]

leglessAlex said:

Absolute fking wkstains.

I don't have the last one because I couldn't have one of the last ones, I don't have the required amount of limbs for a manual transmission.
.

I never realised that was why you have that username. I always assumed it was a reference to getting pissed!

[leglessAlex]

CoolHands said:

leglessAlex said:

Absolute fking wkstains.

I don't have the last one because I couldn't have one of the last ones, I don't have the required amount of limbs for a manual transmission.

I never realised that was why you have that username. I always assumed it was a reference to getting pissed!

Yeah you’re not alone in that, quite a few have made that assumption

The real question with this is that is it worth kicking up a fuss to try and get a car, or just try and get a Corolla GR form Japan when they inevitably put the autobox in that too.

[Mark A S]

Some interesting comments on here, especially from those that have not driven a GRY.

I find most modern cars boring, for sure, super-efficient, quiet etc, but dull and lacking in soul. Also, up until recently over 40k is IMO way too much for a road car to do road car things in. Might have to raise that to 50 now, but over 500/year road Tax just because it costs over 40k puts me off, and I get the well if you can afford over 40 k,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Had my GRY now for coming up for 3 years, I don’t do many miles, 7400 so far, But, all of those has been Fun/Interesting. Its not perfect, clutch biting point, low speed throttle response and a bit too much road noise, which I get due to the PS4 Tyres etc, and I do understand what people say regarding its capabilities are so high, lower speed fun etc.

You can potter in it, cruise the M ways, chuck “stuff” in the back [seats down!!] and it will drive just like any other modern boring car and return excellent MPG.
Then, press a few buttons and you can go play Colin McRae, more so on windy greasy back roads, where IMO, it is un equalled.

You have to take your hat off to Toyota for making such a car these days [with up to 10 years warranty!!!!], and 45k for the new Gen 2 Auto version seems perfectly reasonably to me.

[AceRockatansky]

Glenn63 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

CG2020UK said:

Glenn63 said:

ecsrobin said:

bennno said:

Same money

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023113044...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024030572...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024011254...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024032077...

How’s the warranties on the cars listed?

Some really boring mundane choices there surely you could have come up with better than that to make your point? I’d take the Yaris over all of them.

Not a bad car on that list!

Just personal preference on what you pick.

Spot on. I'd personally have all 4 of those cars over the GR Yaris if I was spending my own money. However...as you say it just boils down to personal preference and what you prefer I think though.

Plus I'm not sure if a GR Yaris would be big enough for me as a daily driver, and then I'm not completely sure if I would think that it was special enough as a weekend/occasional car either though.

I love my F82 M4 as a daily, however I wouldn't want it as my weekend/occasional car though for example, because personally I don't think that it is special/different enough for that.

They all just seem like daily grind auto do the job cars, a nice place to rack up some miles no doubt. Where as the Yaris I’d get up early to take the long route.

Any car becomes "less special" if you drive it everyday, even M4's (F84).

[cerb4.5lee]

AceRockatansky said:

Glenn63 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

CG2020UK said:

Glenn63 said:

ecsrobin said:

bennno said:

Same money

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023113044...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024030572...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024011254...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024032077...

How’s the warranties on the cars listed?

Some really boring mundane choices there surely you could have come up with better than that to make your point? I’d take the Yaris over all of them.

Not a bad car on that list!

Just personal preference on what you pick.

Spot on. I'd personally have all 4 of those cars over the GR Yaris if I was spending my own money. However...as you say it just boils down to personal preference and what you prefer I think though.

Plus I'm not sure if a GR Yaris would be big enough for me as a daily driver, and then I'm not completely sure if I would think that it was special enough as a weekend/occasional car either though.

I love my F82 M4 as a daily, however I wouldn't want it as my weekend/occasional car though for example, because personally I don't think that it is special/different enough for that.

They all just seem like daily grind auto do the job cars, a nice place to rack up some miles no doubt. Where as the Yaris I’d get up early to take the long route.

Any car becomes "less special" if you drive it everyday, even M4's (F84).

Completely agree. I remember going down to one car a few years ago when I had the E92 M3, and I tried the "one car do it all" thing with that and it failed miserably for me. In traffic it felt like you were sat in a 318d, but a 318d that only did 17mpg! Plus it felt ordinary very quickly to me(I did 10k miles in 10 months in it). So that experience taught me that you definitely need more than one car if funds allow.

My F82 M4 is exactly the same as well, although at least that does do 29 mpg though in comparison. So that is why I also have the 370Z Roadster and Caterham to get my proper "fun" kicks for sure. I've done 25k miles now in the M4 and I do still love it as a daily(had it for 3 years now), however I wouldn't want to use it for anything else though for certain.

[rodericb]

Mark A S said:

You can potter in it, cruise the M ways, chuck “stuff” in the back [seats down!!] and it will drive just like any other modern boring car and return excellent MPG.
Then, press a few buttons and you can go play Colin McRae, more so on windy greasy back roads, where IMO, it is un equalled.

Or lap Llandow circuit quicker than an Aston Martin DB12 or less than a second off a BMW M5 CS or Porsche 911 GT3 RS

[Lordbenny]

WelshPetrolhead said:

60 grand for a Yaris. Jesus wept.

That’s nothing when you consider a new mini Metro is £300,000!

https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/y...

[cerb4.5lee]

rodericb said:

Mark A S said:

You can potter in it, cruise the M ways, chuck “stuff” in the back [seats down!!] and it will drive just like any other modern boring car and return excellent MPG.
Then, press a few buttons and you can go play Colin McRae, more so on windy greasy back roads, where IMO, it is un equalled.

Or lap Llandow circuit quicker than an Aston Martin DB12 or less than a second off a BMW M5 CS or Porsche 911 GT3 RS

I find it interesting to read about how many folk track them really, because in my head they wouldn't be a go to car for me for track work. I can imagine them blasting through a forest rally stage for sure, but a tarmac track not so much.

In saying that though, one of my mates did used to love throwing his Mitsubishi Evo 8 around Donington Park though years back in fairness. I used to absolutely love driving his Evo(and I'd go as far to say that it was easily one of the best cars I've driven), so I'd imagine that I'd love driving the GRY too.

[ecsrobin]

cerb4.5lee said:

I find it interesting to read about how many folk track them really, because in my head they wouldn't be a go to car for me for track work. I can imagine them blasting through a forest rally stage for sure, but a tarmac track not so much.

In saying that though, one of my mates did used to love throwing his Mitsubishi Evo 8 around Donington Park though years back in fairness. I used to absolutely love driving his Evo(and I'd go as far to say that it was easily one of the best cars I've driven), so I'd imagine that I'd love driving the GRY too.

Light, good power, good grip and a 10 year warranty that includes track use.

[Leon R]

cerb4.5lee said:

rodericb said:

Mark A S said:

You can potter in it, cruise the M ways, chuck “stuff” in the back [seats down!!] and it will drive just like any other modern boring car and return excellent MPG.
Then, press a few buttons and you can go play Colin McRae, more so on windy greasy back roads, where IMO, it is un equalled.

Or lap Llandow circuit quicker than an Aston Martin DB12 or less than a second off a BMW M5 CS or Porsche 911 GT3 RS

I find it interesting to read about how many folk track them really, because in my head they wouldn't be a go to car for me for track work. I can imagine them blasting through a forest rally stage for sure, but a tarmac track not so much.

In saying that though, one of my mates did used to love throwing his Mitsubishi Evo 8 around Donington Park though years back in fairness. I used to absolutely love driving his Evo(and I'd go as far to say that it was easily one of the best cars I've driven), so I'd imagine that I'd love driving the GRY too.

Do you track your cars?

[cerb4.5lee]

Leon R said:

Do you track your cars?

No I don't. Although I am tempted more than ever now that I have the Caterham though, and I'd imagine that to be a lot of fun on a track for sure. Pretty much all of my car mates have taken their own cars on a track, but I never have though.

[loudlashadjuster]

cerb4.5lee said:

rodericb said:

Mark A S said:

You can potter in it, cruise the M ways, chuck “stuff” in the back [seats down!!] and it will drive just like any other modern boring car and return excellent MPG.
Then, press a few buttons and you can go play Colin McRae, more so on windy greasy back roads, where IMO, it is un equalled.

Or lap Llandow circuit quicker than an Aston Martin DB12 or less than a second off a BMW M5 CS or Porsche 911 GT3 RS

I find it interesting to read about how many folk track them really, because in my head they wouldn't be a go to car for me for track work. I can imagine them blasting through a forest rally stage for sure, but a tarmac track not so much.

In saying that though, one of my mates did used to love throwing his Mitsubishi Evo 8 around Donington Park though years back in fairness. I used to absolutely love driving his Evo(and I'd go as far to say that it was easily one of the best cars I've driven), so I'd imagine that I'd love driving the GRY too.

It's weird. A sit-up-and-beg hatch with relatively soft suspension shouldn't feel so at home on the track, and yet...

It's so grippy, confidence-inspiring, and adjustable on the limit that it actually makes a lot of sense, hence why every track day and Nürburgring Touristenfahrten session is rammed with them, often matching pace with much more exotic machinery.