RE: 2024 Range Rover Sport SV | PH Review

RE: 2024 Range Rover Sport SV | PH Review

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CKY

1,387 posts

16 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Julian Scott said:
I agree, I have the engine in an F-Pace SVR and the pedal certainly isn't dead for ages, quite the opposite, it's way too easy to make the car bolt away from a junction/corner like a PH-ers responding to an EV post.
So...

SmithCorona said:
L494 and L405 application of the 5.0S/C is different to the F's.

There is a dead spot by design on most of the RRs to enable gentle set off, and limit drive train shock - particularly to the transfer cases and boxes etc.

Certainly makes the 5.0 feel very sluggish in the first thousand or so revs, almost like the Supercharger losses are overwhelming the hp generation of the engine. Can be remedied a bit by popping the gearbox in sport mode or getting a pedal box.
...are you saying that Julian's countless responses on this thread are in fact all biased, opinionated waffle?!

SmithCorona

617 posts

30 months

Tuesday 20th February
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I think I'm agreeing with him on this point?

LR 5.0S/C applications feel different to J applications.

Regardless, the 4.4 is a better engine boxedin

WY86

1,334 posts

28 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Julian Scott said:
Thats fine, but it doesn't stop the RR being a class above the BMW. Also, FWIW, the X5M would be 50% more to insure than my SVR.
Again that is subjective, and to be clear we are talking about the RRS and not a full fat RR, i personally do not see the sport as a class above and never have. I never ran a quote on a X5M but when i was looking at my X3M i did a quote on a SVR and a GLC63S and the SVR was £3300 and the GLC 63S was £2800, the X3M was £770.

Charlie_1

1,014 posts

93 months

Tuesday 20th February
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smilo996 said:
So, Jekyll or Hyde...or pointless.
Nothing says fatuous and wasteful than this:
Im guessing your idea of fun is knitting twigs , wasteful lol

Charlie_1

1,014 posts

93 months

Tuesday 20th February
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flight147z said:
I've had my Sport for 2 months/3,000 miles. I set the climate control at 22c the day I got it and haven't touched it since. Heated seats are turned on on the driveway each time I take the car out

Moving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
because when the outside ambient temp is 30 deg you might want the car temp to be 15 deg if you have been outside of the car

AmyRichardson

1,090 posts

43 months

Tuesday 20th February
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I'm not entirely sure about the looks of these, I walk past one on my street and I'm always struck that the physical height of the bonnet and rear - that combined with the increasingly smooth and continuous body panels makes them look like insurmountable cliff faces.

The old (494) was sometimes of a sweet spot between the rough/boxy 320 and this, it hides its vertical bulk rather better.

1275 GT

372 posts

167 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Nc100 said:
I will forgive the BMW engine because (afaik) it is a midlands product like the RR (Ham’s Hall)
whistleyeswhistle

flight147z

978 posts

130 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Charlie_1 said:
flight147z said:
I've had my Sport for 2 months/3,000 miles. I set the climate control at 22c the day I got it and haven't touched it since. Heated seats are turned on on the driveway each time I take the car out

Moving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
because when the outside ambient temp is 30 deg you might want the car temp to be 15 deg if you have been outside of the car
Then 15 minutes later you'll be too cold and need to make it hotter and adjust up to 25. Then 15 minutes after that you'll be too hot and bring it back down. The whole point of climate is that it sets to your comfortable temperature and you wait for the car (and your body) to acclimatise not that you mess about with it overcorrecting in both directions repeatedly

Julian Scott

2,512 posts

25 months

Wednesday 21st February
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WY86 said:
Julian Scott said:
Thats fine, but it doesn't stop the RR being a class above the BMW. Also, FWIW, the X5M would be 50% more to insure than my SVR.
Again that is subjective, and to be clear we are talking about the RRS and not a full fat RR, i personally do not see the sport as a class above and never have. I never ran a quote on a X5M but when i was looking at my X3M i did a quote on a SVR and a GLC63S and the SVR was £3300 and the GLC 63S was £2800, the X3M was £770.
Personally, I think both objectively and subjectively the RRS is a level above the X5. One sit inside highlights that, the X5 starts at £69k, the RRS £84k.

....and I speak as a huge BMW fan, someone that has had at least one BMW on the drive for the last 25yrs, 2 on the drive more often than just one, and have owned more BMWs than every other make added together.

Insurance wise, my SVR is £730, up from £680 last year. Last year, at the same time, the X5 50i was £850, the X5M £1200.

Julian Scott

2,512 posts

25 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Charlie_1 said:
flight147z said:
I've had my Sport for 2 months/3,000 miles. I set the climate control at 22c the day I got it and haven't touched it since. Heated seats are turned on on the driveway each time I take the car out

Moving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
because when the outside ambient temp is 30 deg you might want the car temp to be 15 deg if you have been outside of the car
I don't think any car would allow you to set 15 degrees.

But the RR will let you set it to 16 degrees before you get in so it is pre-cooled.

Julian Scott

2,512 posts

25 months

Friday 22nd March
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Friend of mine has just taken delivery of one. Looks great in the flesh (in a subtle colour way), loses the soundtrack of the old SVR though.


Mikebentley

6,124 posts

141 months

Friday 22nd March
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Is your friend a relative of Eddie?

Julian Scott

2,512 posts

25 months

Friday 22nd March
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Mikebentley said:
Is your friend a relative of Eddie?
Yes. How could you tell? wink

biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd March
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Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.

Julian Scott

2,512 posts

25 months

Monday 25th March
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biggbn said:
Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.
One man's nondescript is another man's subtle.... wink

The same car in a shouty colour would be deemed tacky. But I don't agree they look cheap nor 'down at heel'.

GeniusOfLove

1,389 posts

13 months

Monday 25th March
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biggbn said:
Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.
I was following one yesterday and thought it could have been anything from Korea, it's quite hard to do much with a vertical cliff face of a tailgate.

Usually a new RR manages the trick of making the old one look old and a bit naff overnight, I don't feel the recent RR and RRS have done this. I'm sure they're fabulous cars though.

SmithCorona

617 posts

30 months

Monday 25th March
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In my opinion, the sport is a much more resolved design than the L460, much of this is down to the rear lights being horizontal as opposed to vertical.

The sport in Lantau Bronze, for instance, looks fantastic to my eyes, but there isn't a colour that truly suits the tall and thin rear look of the L460. This is the first generation where my preference is for the sport as opposed to its bigger brother.

Julian Scott

2,512 posts

25 months

Monday 25th March
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SmithCorona said:
In my opinion, the sport is a much more resolved design than the L460, much of this is down to the rear lights being horizontal as opposed to vertical.

The sport in Lantau Bronze, for instance, looks fantastic to my eyes, but there isn't a colour that truly suits the tall and thin rear look of the L460. This is the first generation where my preference is for the sport as opposed to its bigger brother.
I actually think the opposite. Love the new FFRR, think the new sport is nice, just the number plate position makes it look a little ill proportioned. The SV in the picture above looks better though.

flight147z

978 posts

130 months

Monday 25th March
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GeniusOfLove said:
biggbn said:
Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.
I was following one yesterday and thought it could have been anything from Korea, it's quite hard to do much with a vertical cliff face of a tailgate.

Usually a new RR manages the trick of making the old one look old and a bit naff overnight, I don't feel the recent RR and RRS have done this. I'm sure they're fabulous cars though.
I definitely think they have. Park one of these new ones against the last generation and the old ones look ancient. To be fair the last generation is over 12 years old so it's unlikely to still look fresh now. Lots of the design elements on the newer ones are inherited from the Velar, a 6 year old design which still looks very fresh!

biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Tuesday 26th March
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Julian Scott said:
biggbn said:
Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.
One man's nondescript is another man's subtle.... wink

The same car in a shouty colour would be deemed tacky. But I don't agree they look cheap nor 'down at heel'.
Each to their own man. For my eyes there is nothing classy about this or the new FFRR, I find it kinda sad. I am, however, sure the sales figured will prove me to be in a minority as ever!!