RE: 2024 Range Rover Sport SV | PH Review
Discussion
Julian Scott said:
I agree, I have the engine in an F-Pace SVR and the pedal certainly isn't dead for ages, quite the opposite, it's way too easy to make the car bolt away from a junction/corner like a PH-ers responding to an EV post.
So...SmithCorona said:
L494 and L405 application of the 5.0S/C is different to the F's.
There is a dead spot by design on most of the RRs to enable gentle set off, and limit drive train shock - particularly to the transfer cases and boxes etc.
Certainly makes the 5.0 feel very sluggish in the first thousand or so revs, almost like the Supercharger losses are overwhelming the hp generation of the engine. Can be remedied a bit by popping the gearbox in sport mode or getting a pedal box.
...are you saying that Julian's countless responses on this thread are in fact all biased, opinionated waffle?!There is a dead spot by design on most of the RRs to enable gentle set off, and limit drive train shock - particularly to the transfer cases and boxes etc.
Certainly makes the 5.0 feel very sluggish in the first thousand or so revs, almost like the Supercharger losses are overwhelming the hp generation of the engine. Can be remedied a bit by popping the gearbox in sport mode or getting a pedal box.
Julian Scott said:
Thats fine, but it doesn't stop the RR being a class above the BMW. Also, FWIW, the X5M would be 50% more to insure than my SVR.
Again that is subjective, and to be clear we are talking about the RRS and not a full fat RR, i personally do not see the sport as a class above and never have. I never ran a quote on a X5M but when i was looking at my X3M i did a quote on a SVR and a GLC63S and the SVR was £3300 and the GLC 63S was £2800, the X3M was £770. flight147z said:
I've had my Sport for 2 months/3,000 miles. I set the climate control at 22c the day I got it and haven't touched it since. Heated seats are turned on on the driveway each time I take the car out
Moving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
because when the outside ambient temp is 30 deg you might want the car temp to be 15 deg if you have been outside of the carMoving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
I'm not entirely sure about the looks of these, I walk past one on my street and I'm always struck that the physical height of the bonnet and rear - that combined with the increasingly smooth and continuous body panels makes them look like insurmountable cliff faces.
The old (494) was sometimes of a sweet spot between the rough/boxy 320 and this, it hides its vertical bulk rather better.
The old (494) was sometimes of a sweet spot between the rough/boxy 320 and this, it hides its vertical bulk rather better.
Charlie_1 said:
flight147z said:
I've had my Sport for 2 months/3,000 miles. I set the climate control at 22c the day I got it and haven't touched it since. Heated seats are turned on on the driveway each time I take the car out
Moving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
because when the outside ambient temp is 30 deg you might want the car temp to be 15 deg if you have been outside of the carMoving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
WY86 said:
Julian Scott said:
Thats fine, but it doesn't stop the RR being a class above the BMW. Also, FWIW, the X5M would be 50% more to insure than my SVR.
Again that is subjective, and to be clear we are talking about the RRS and not a full fat RR, i personally do not see the sport as a class above and never have. I never ran a quote on a X5M but when i was looking at my X3M i did a quote on a SVR and a GLC63S and the SVR was £3300 and the GLC 63S was £2800, the X3M was £770. ....and I speak as a huge BMW fan, someone that has had at least one BMW on the drive for the last 25yrs, 2 on the drive more often than just one, and have owned more BMWs than every other make added together.
Insurance wise, my SVR is £730, up from £680 last year. Last year, at the same time, the X5 50i was £850, the X5M £1200.
Charlie_1 said:
flight147z said:
I've had my Sport for 2 months/3,000 miles. I set the climate control at 22c the day I got it and haven't touched it since. Heated seats are turned on on the driveway each time I take the car out
Moving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
because when the outside ambient temp is 30 deg you might want the car temp to be 15 deg if you have been outside of the carMoving climate and seats behind the screen makes absolutely no difference to the usability of the car. The HVAC is set and forget... once you set it to your preferred temperature why would you ever need to change it
But the RR will let you set it to 16 degrees before you get in so it is pre-cooled.
biggbn said:
Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.
One man's nondescript is another man's subtle.... The same car in a shouty colour would be deemed tacky. But I don't agree they look cheap nor 'down at heel'.
biggbn said:
Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.
I was following one yesterday and thought it could have been anything from Korea, it's quite hard to do much with a vertical cliff face of a tailgate. Usually a new RR manages the trick of making the old one look old and a bit naff overnight, I don't feel the recent RR and RRS have done this. I'm sure they're fabulous cars though.
In my opinion, the sport is a much more resolved design than the L460, much of this is down to the rear lights being horizontal as opposed to vertical.
The sport in Lantau Bronze, for instance, looks fantastic to my eyes, but there isn't a colour that truly suits the tall and thin rear look of the L460. This is the first generation where my preference is for the sport as opposed to its bigger brother.
The sport in Lantau Bronze, for instance, looks fantastic to my eyes, but there isn't a colour that truly suits the tall and thin rear look of the L460. This is the first generation where my preference is for the sport as opposed to its bigger brother.
SmithCorona said:
In my opinion, the sport is a much more resolved design than the L460, much of this is down to the rear lights being horizontal as opposed to vertical.
The sport in Lantau Bronze, for instance, looks fantastic to my eyes, but there isn't a colour that truly suits the tall and thin rear look of the L460. This is the first generation where my preference is for the sport as opposed to its bigger brother.
I actually think the opposite. Love the new FFRR, think the new sport is nice, just the number plate position makes it look a little ill proportioned. The SV in the picture above looks better though.The sport in Lantau Bronze, for instance, looks fantastic to my eyes, but there isn't a colour that truly suits the tall and thin rear look of the L460. This is the first generation where my preference is for the sport as opposed to its bigger brother.
GeniusOfLove said:
biggbn said:
Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.
I was following one yesterday and thought it could have been anything from Korea, it's quite hard to do much with a vertical cliff face of a tailgate. Usually a new RR manages the trick of making the old one look old and a bit naff overnight, I don't feel the recent RR and RRS have done this. I'm sure they're fabulous cars though.
Julian Scott said:
biggbn said:
Drive past one every day, its a nondescript grey colour and looks down at heel and cheap already. They've really missed a boat with these new designs to my eyes.
One man's nondescript is another man's subtle.... The same car in a shouty colour would be deemed tacky. But I don't agree they look cheap nor 'down at heel'.
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