An epidemic of insanely slow drivers
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740EVTORQUES said:
popeyewhite said:
740EVTORQUES said:
Should I hand my licence in?
With the knowledge locals wanted to go faster than your dawdling i presume you let them past where feasible, rather than deliberately impeding them.
KTMsm said:
Slow idiot joins an almost empty motorway approx 400m ahead of me, maybe 40mph
Van in lane one doing 50ish with 350m to the idiot decides not to brake, nor check his mirrors and just pulls in front of me in lane 2 at 77
So two idiots who can't drive - on a clear motorway have forced me to brake hard in the outside lane
It's simple enough, if what you are doing makes someone else have to take avoiding action - YOU AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT
I saw it all happening and assumed the van driver would either lift off or wait for me to overtake before changing lane
Ever heard ofVan in lane one doing 50ish with 350m to the idiot decides not to brake, nor check his mirrors and just pulls in front of me in lane 2 at 77
So two idiots who can't drive - on a clear motorway have forced me to brake hard in the outside lane
It's simple enough, if what you are doing makes someone else have to take avoiding action - YOU AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT
I saw it all happening and assumed the van driver would either lift off or wait for me to overtake before changing lane
antici.....
pation.
Gary C said:
KTMsm said:
Slow idiot joins an almost empty motorway approx 400m ahead of me, maybe 40mph
Van in lane one doing 50ish with 350m to the idiot decides not to brake, nor check his mirrors and just pulls in front of me in lane 2 at 77
So two idiots who can't drive - on a clear motorway have forced me to brake hard in the outside lane
It's simple enough, if what you are doing makes someone else have to take avoiding action - YOU AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT
I saw it all happening and assumed the van driver would either lift off or wait for me to overtake before changing lane
Ever heard ofVan in lane one doing 50ish with 350m to the idiot decides not to brake, nor check his mirrors and just pulls in front of me in lane 2 at 77
So two idiots who can't drive - on a clear motorway have forced me to brake hard in the outside lane
It's simple enough, if what you are doing makes someone else have to take avoiding action - YOU AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT
I saw it all happening and assumed the van driver would either lift off or wait for me to overtake before changing lane
antici.....
pation.
Out of the three drivers, who’s breaking the Highway Code the most.,,
KTMsm said:
When discussing speed on here - mention 100+ on an NSL and you'd think you were discussing stamping on kittens - presumably most only use first and second gear enthusiastically
In the past, I would happily go as fast as I believed conditions allowed. These days with enforcement technology as it is, I stick to the limit. Even if I think the limit is stupid. Because I need my licence at the moment. Also in the past, I have "talked" my way out of points by being polite and helpful, when pulled over. Good knows how, as the anarchist inside wants to blurt out an abusive tirade.
Can't argue with a speed camera.
I'm just about to get up and go and meet my wife and her sister from the lake district. Google says 1 hour 20 mins.
It will be exactly 1 hour 18 mins. I've done the same journey 25 years ago in 50 mins.
Nothing to do with the amount of traffic, and everything to do with valuing my licence.
I can count the number of times someone has pulled over to let traffic past on the fingers of one hand. I think it's one of those things only PHers do/don't do, like they're the only people who never tailgate, never cut corners or object to being overtaken.
Two separate farm vehicles yesterday with probably half mile tailbacks ignoring spots where they could pull in. These are locals so they know where they could stop but instead built up a wall of frustrated drivers behind them. People at intervals along the queue risking head on by trying multiple overtakes. Taycan driver if it was you that I had to help out by not getting driven into - get some bloody driving lessons.
Semi-fortunately I was going the the other way, but earlier in the day, no traffic about and I catch one of these people who drive in the right hand lane of a two lane road when there is virtually zero traffic. Just why? It just has to be some ghastly Audi suv thing doesn't it? So I arrive on the scene in the left lane, pull out behind, no tailgating. Does he pull over? Does he f
k. Puts his foot down. Far, far more common occurrence than dawdlers. Like the farm vehicles, obstructive and provocative.
Two separate farm vehicles yesterday with probably half mile tailbacks ignoring spots where they could pull in. These are locals so they know where they could stop but instead built up a wall of frustrated drivers behind them. People at intervals along the queue risking head on by trying multiple overtakes. Taycan driver if it was you that I had to help out by not getting driven into - get some bloody driving lessons.
Semi-fortunately I was going the the other way, but earlier in the day, no traffic about and I catch one of these people who drive in the right hand lane of a two lane road when there is virtually zero traffic. Just why? It just has to be some ghastly Audi suv thing doesn't it? So I arrive on the scene in the left lane, pull out behind, no tailgating. Does he pull over? Does he f
k. Puts his foot down. Far, far more common occurrence than dawdlers. Like the farm vehicles, obstructive and provocative.Unreal said:
I can count the number of times someone has pulled over to let traffic past on the fingers of one hand.
I think it's one of those things only PHers do/don't do
I had it happen twice yesterday I think it's one of those things only PHers do/don't do
I did 150 miles around the Cotwolds, green laning on a bike and twice when I was stuck behind a car on single track lanes they pulled over to let me past
biggbn said:
Had a wonderful blat yesterday, almost 300 miles, average speed 63 mph door to door so was at the naughty end of the dial for a good few miles. Wee car averaged 58mpg, zero dawdlers, zero angst or problems. Best drive I've had in a while
What car would that be? That's a bloody good mpg figure for such a high average speed. I'm intrigued. 🙂heebeegeetee said:
biggbn said:
Had a wonderful blat yesterday, almost 300 miles, average speed 63 mph door to door so was at the naughty end of the dial for a good few miles. Wee car averaged 58mpg, zero dawdlers, zero angst or problems. Best drive I've had in a while
What car would that be? That's a bloody good mpg figure for such a high average speed. I'm intrigued. ??Edited by biggbn on Sunday 21st April 10:01
heebeegeetee said:
biggbn said:
Had a wonderful blat yesterday, almost 300 miles, average speed 63 mph door to door so was at the naughty end of the dial for a good few miles. Wee car averaged 58mpg, zero dawdlers, zero angst or problems. Best drive I've had in a while
What car would that be? That's a bloody good mpg figure for such a high average speed. I'm intrigued. ??Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Sunday 21st April 10:31
740EVTORQUES said:
heebeegeetee said:
biggbn said:
Had a wonderful blat yesterday, almost 300 miles, average speed 63 mph door to door so was at the naughty end of the dial for a good few miles. Wee car averaged 58mpg, zero dawdlers, zero angst or problems. Best drive I've had in a while
What car would that be? That's a bloody good mpg figure for such a high average speed. I'm intrigued. ??Only when manufacturers can produce an EV, that costs the same as its ICEV equivalent, has the same range as its ICEV equivalent, and does not need a minimum 30 minute stop, to recharge on a journey of 300 miles. will people switch to them in anything like significant numbers.
To date NO SUCH EV exists. (Even this assumes that an EV driver can get onto a charger, as soon as they arrive at a charging station. A situation that will get only worse when there are more EVs about) .
Major manufacturers including Tesla. VW, and Toyota, even some Chinese marques, are cutting back their EV production. Porsche have fields of Taycans, that they cannot shift (And even this with a 50% discount)
Anyone who wanted, and could afford an EV, have in all probability got one by now. This leaves the rest of the motoring public either not interested, unable to afford one, or not able to find one that does what their ICEV can do now.
740EVTORQUES said:
heebeegeetee said:
biggbn said:
Had a wonderful blat yesterday, almost 300 miles, average speed 63 mph door to door so was at the naughty end of the dial for a good few miles. Wee car averaged 58mpg, zero dawdlers, zero angst or problems. Best drive I've had in a while
What car would that be? That's a bloody good mpg figure for such a high average speed. I'm intrigued. ??Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Sunday 21st April 10:31
Round my way, the motoring public seem to have perfected the most baffling driving style known to man: slow and aggressive. Fast and aggressive? Makes sense. I'll get out of your way and leave you to it. Slow and relaxed? Yes! Let's all be happy hippies.
Slow and aggressive, however, is nonsensical. Why, pray, do habitual slowcoaches feel the need to be aggressive? I can't explain it, but they do.
Example: I was driving through town the other day, which brought the usual cocktail of stop-start traffic and clearer bits, interspersed with the odd left and right hand filter lane and roundabout. The car behind me aggressively tailgated in the slower bits but, when we got to a 40 limit, refused to go above about 25 miles an hour. I lost him, therefore, until we hit the next logjam, at which point he resumed tailgating. I lost him again when the road cleared and so on.
He's not the only offender. Recently another car used a filter lane to overtake me, in the middle of a town, in somewhat risky fashion. The overtaking driver then proceeded to bumble along at somewhat less than the speed limit. Someone else forced me to pull up after barging out of a side road, and then proceeded in front at a distinctly leisurely pace.
It seems the order of the day is that one has to be in front, regardless of whether one intends to drive quickly or slowly. it's the only sensible explanation for this sudden crop of schizophrenic stoppo drivers who abruptly turn into Mr Magoo after having achieved their desire of leapfrogging my old heap.
Slow and aggressive, however, is nonsensical. Why, pray, do habitual slowcoaches feel the need to be aggressive? I can't explain it, but they do.
Example: I was driving through town the other day, which brought the usual cocktail of stop-start traffic and clearer bits, interspersed with the odd left and right hand filter lane and roundabout. The car behind me aggressively tailgated in the slower bits but, when we got to a 40 limit, refused to go above about 25 miles an hour. I lost him, therefore, until we hit the next logjam, at which point he resumed tailgating. I lost him again when the road cleared and so on.
He's not the only offender. Recently another car used a filter lane to overtake me, in the middle of a town, in somewhat risky fashion. The overtaking driver then proceeded to bumble along at somewhat less than the speed limit. Someone else forced me to pull up after barging out of a side road, and then proceeded in front at a distinctly leisurely pace.
It seems the order of the day is that one has to be in front, regardless of whether one intends to drive quickly or slowly. it's the only sensible explanation for this sudden crop of schizophrenic stoppo drivers who abruptly turn into Mr Magoo after having achieved their desire of leapfrogging my old heap.
Missy Charm said:
Round my way, the motoring public seem to have perfected the most baffling driving style known to man: slow and aggressive. Fast and aggressive? Makes sense. I'll get out of your way and leave you to it. Slow and relaxed? Yes! Let's all be happy hippies.
Slow and aggressive, however, is nonsensical. Why, pray, do habitual slowcoaches feel the need to be aggressive? I can't explain it, but they do.
Example: I was driving through town the other day, which brought the usual cocktail of stop-start traffic and clearer bits, interspersed with the odd left and right hand filter lane and roundabout. The car behind me aggressively tailgated in the slower bits but, when we got to a 40 limit, refused to go above about 25 miles an hour. I lost him, therefore, until we hit the next logjam, at which point he resumed tailgating. I lost him again when the road cleared and so on.
He's not the only offender. Recently another car used a filter lane to overtake me, in the middle of a town, in somewhat risky fashion. The overtaking driver then proceeded to bumble along at somewhat less than the speed limit. Someone else forced me to pull up after barging out of a side road, and then proceeded in front at a distinctly leisurely pace.
It seems the order of the day is that one has to be in front, regardless of whether one intends to drive quickly or slowly. it's the only sensible explanation for this sudden crop of schizophrenic stoppo drivers who abruptly turn into Mr Magoo after having achieved their desire of leapfrogging my old heap.
To my way of thinking, this sort of poor, aggressive and unpredictable driving is far more of an issue these days than the actual speed people choose to drive at. It must by now be obvious to all the proponents of ‘drive to the limits at all times’, that they actually don’t practice what they preach, because it’s impossible, and what is generally preventing them making ‘good progress’ is actually something else.Slow and aggressive, however, is nonsensical. Why, pray, do habitual slowcoaches feel the need to be aggressive? I can't explain it, but they do.
Example: I was driving through town the other day, which brought the usual cocktail of stop-start traffic and clearer bits, interspersed with the odd left and right hand filter lane and roundabout. The car behind me aggressively tailgated in the slower bits but, when we got to a 40 limit, refused to go above about 25 miles an hour. I lost him, therefore, until we hit the next logjam, at which point he resumed tailgating. I lost him again when the road cleared and so on.
He's not the only offender. Recently another car used a filter lane to overtake me, in the middle of a town, in somewhat risky fashion. The overtaking driver then proceeded to bumble along at somewhat less than the speed limit. Someone else forced me to pull up after barging out of a side road, and then proceeded in front at a distinctly leisurely pace.
It seems the order of the day is that one has to be in front, regardless of whether one intends to drive quickly or slowly. it's the only sensible explanation for this sudden crop of schizophrenic stoppo drivers who abruptly turn into Mr Magoo after having achieved their desire of leapfrogging my old heap.
As an example, on our village bypass (stretches of NSL and 50) my wife and I encountered the following: a small car travelling at maybe 35, with a van behind it weaving wildly from side to side about a foot away from the bumper of the car. We were on a straight piece of road with good visibility and nothing coming the other way. In the absence of the van I would have gone straight past. Instead I kept my distance - for one thing I had no idea what other bizarre activities the van might indulge in, and for the other I was fascinated to know how long the van would keep this up and when it would go for a simple overtake. The answer turned out to be never. Despite numerous opportunities we eventually came to the next village and the van turned off. The slow car was being driven by a very old lady, with an even older man in the passenger seat.
What was the main problem here? It wasn’t the slow driver, it was the van, and I can only assume the driver was trying to make some sort of point about the slow driving that was strangely more important than both going past and the fact that he/she was also preventing other traffic (me) from overtaking. The only other explanation I can think of is laziness - going for an overtake takes some small mental and physical effort, so trying to harass the other driver into speeding up seemed like a better option?
MightyBadger said:
A few snails around today. Was behind some old folks doing 30 in a 60, sun was out and couldn't be arsed to overtake so just chilled at crawling pace laughing at the queue in my rear view mirror...... they got to the 30 zone and sped up to 40 
A bit like the person I followed doing 30 in a 50 who then sped up to 40 when it dropped to 30. Make it make sense!Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff