RE: Toyota confirms UK pricing for new GR Yaris
Discussion
I have no doubt they will sell quickly, only because it's limited and there will be a lot FOMO from gen1. However, I think the price is disappointing particularly that it puts the car into a higher tax bracket. I personally would have preferred less radical changes to the car if it meant keeping it under 40K.
I was always on the fence as I find the new dash really super ugly. Now it's being marketed at this price, I don't think there is any reason to accept a car with that kind of cheap ugly interior. Not that I would have had any chance of buying one, as it seems Toyota have made this an exclusive for current GR yaris owners and those on an old waiting list. I don't know why they didn't just say this from the beginning rather than wasting prospective buyers time.
I was always on the fence as I find the new dash really super ugly. Now it's being marketed at this price, I don't think there is any reason to accept a car with that kind of cheap ugly interior. Not that I would have had any chance of buying one, as it seems Toyota have made this an exclusive for current GR yaris owners and those on an old waiting list. I don't know why they didn't just say this from the beginning rather than wasting prospective buyers time.
One of the reasons I took the plunge on the Mk1 was that I didn't think there would be another chance for me to buy a new car, bay assembled with the level of development that has gone into the GRY. I ordered in July 2021 a few days after the order books closed but my delaer managed to get me a cancelled roder slot in December 2021, however it didnt arrive until November 2023. Lukily Toyota honoured the price and finance deals from the time of ordering.
I still in awe of the capabilities of the car on the road, I only use it at the weekend so it still feels special (to me) even when pottering around.
Would I be looking at a new one for £45k with interest rates what they are now? Not at all. The new one was announced just before mine was due for delivery and I did have a wobble but given that the finance deals for the last cancelled orders at £36.5k with 8% were around 550-600 I thought the new one would likely be 700+ and it just wasnt going to be worth that for me.
Edit: Also to add for all those saying its just inflation, thats true but it can sting as not very many peoples incomes have kept pace with inflation.
I still in awe of the capabilities of the car on the road, I only use it at the weekend so it still feels special (to me) even when pottering around.
Would I be looking at a new one for £45k with interest rates what they are now? Not at all. The new one was announced just before mine was due for delivery and I did have a wobble but given that the finance deals for the last cancelled orders at £36.5k with 8% were around 550-600 I thought the new one would likely be 700+ and it just wasnt going to be worth that for me.
Edit: Also to add for all those saying its just inflation, thats true but it can sting as not very many peoples incomes have kept pace with inflation.
Edited by BevR on Wednesday 27th March 13:05
CrippsCorner said:
Insane pricing, but I'm happy to accept that I've been priced out the new car market. The further up prices go, the more I go the other way... 10% of £45k will get you a decent track toy.
I actually find the price of mundane cars to be more eye watering than say this Yaris. Ultimately if Toyota get it right they will sell all their allocation for the most amount of revenue without leaving demand 'on the table'. In many ways if a car is being flipped it's an indication that the car was underpriced, profitability missed by the OEM. I've often felt Porsche UK must leave a lot on the table with some cars.
Where we see the inverse is OEM padding rental fleets as overpricing during the 'odd' years now comes back to bite as they can't shift metal at 'normal' volumes at the new prices set during the shortage years- so the US market is in a heck of an odd place as $100k pickups suddenly look a daft idea.
There is a lot of love for the mk1 GRY but i know 3 people who have had them enjoyed them, said they are great cars but all sold within 6-9 months!!
TBF 1 chap who is 60 could not get on with the heavy clutch and after 600 miles and 9 months sold it and broke very nearly even.
I am sure the MK2 will be an improvement and if joe public are happy to pay £45k then that is what they are worth.
TBF 1 chap who is 60 could not get on with the heavy clutch and after 600 miles and 9 months sold it and broke very nearly even.
I am sure the MK2 will be an improvement and if joe public are happy to pay £45k then that is what they are worth.
Wab1974uk said:
martin12345 said:
TBH I don't care if prices hold up or not
a) I load of people seem to have bought them speculatively to resell to make money (flippers) and I don't care about them
b) I'm keeping mine for another 4 or 5 years till it is 8 or 9 years old by which time it will have pushing 100k miles and be worth "not much" but spread over the 7 years of my ownership the average depreciation per year won't be awful and I shouldn't have any "horror" bills as it will be covered by the 10 years of warranty
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY. There is a reason why it handles & brakes so brilliantly and it isn't because they fitted cheap parts. The quality of parts fitted are what you would expect to find on a £100,000 car, not a £35,000 car. The Mk1 GRY was a total bargain for what it was but it isn't the cheapest to run given the wear and cost of consumables and the 6000 mile service interval. Not a complaint. Just a reflction of reality.
Oh, and try not to buckle a Circuit Pack wheel in a pot hole. They were £1500 each from Toyota although they now seem out of stock (and they are £1000 each for a 2nd hand one off eBay as a result)
Blimey. Mines 3 years old and still on it's original pads & discs. I assume you track yours?a) I load of people seem to have bought them speculatively to resell to make money (flippers) and I don't care about them
b) I'm keeping mine for another 4 or 5 years till it is 8 or 9 years old by which time it will have pushing 100k miles and be worth "not much" but spread over the 7 years of my ownership the average depreciation per year won't be awful and I shouldn't have any "horror" bills as it will be covered by the 10 years of warranty
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY. There is a reason why it handles & brakes so brilliantly and it isn't because they fitted cheap parts. The quality of parts fitted are what you would expect to find on a £100,000 car, not a £35,000 car. The Mk1 GRY was a total bargain for what it was but it isn't the cheapest to run given the wear and cost of consumables and the 6000 mile service interval. Not a complaint. Just a reflction of reality.
Oh, and try not to buckle a Circuit Pack wheel in a pot hole. They were £1500 each from Toyota although they now seem out of stock (and they are £1000 each for a 2nd hand one off eBay as a result)
Sorry, haven't had time to read all 6 pages of comments. But for those comparing to 2020 prices and saying its not too bad, you have to go off the last retail price of the pre-facelift car. Not sure up until when you could buy one, but I assume you could still buy one in 2023. If so, what was the retail price then? Then do the uplift and see what the difference is.
I suspect the new price is made up of 1) old price plus inflation, 2) costs of developing the new one and bringing it to market and 3) profiteering
As mentioned by others, this price rise rules me out for a new one (if I could even get one). What was a (very) small, fun and relatively affordable car is now the best part of £50k. Yikes. Should have worked harder at school!
I suspect the new price is made up of 1) old price plus inflation, 2) costs of developing the new one and bringing it to market and 3) profiteering
As mentioned by others, this price rise rules me out for a new one (if I could even get one). What was a (very) small, fun and relatively affordable car is now the best part of £50k. Yikes. Should have worked harder at school!
garypotter said:
There is a lot of love for the mk1 GRY but i know 3 people who have had them enjoyed them, said they are great cars but all sold within 6-9 months!!
TBF 1 chap who is 60 could not get on with the heavy clutch and after 600 miles and 9 months sold it and broke very nearly even.
I am sure the MK2 will be an improvement and if joe public are happy to pay £45k then that is what they are worth.
Many performance cars are only kept for short periods. I have 15 year old cars that have had a dozen owners. TBF 1 chap who is 60 could not get on with the heavy clutch and after 600 miles and 9 months sold it and broke very nearly even.
I am sure the MK2 will be an improvement and if joe public are happy to pay £45k then that is what they are worth.
Chap with the clutch issue had a duff car. The clutch is normal. My lightweight partner with slim legs has no issue with it.
Roma101 said:
Sorry, haven't had time to read all 6 pages of comments. But for those comparing to 2020 prices and saying its not too bad, you have to go off the last retail price of the pre-facelift car. Not sure up until when you could buy one, but I assume you could still buy one in 2023. If so, what was the retail price then? Then do the uplift and see what the difference is.
I suspect the new price is made up of 1) old price plus inflation, 2) costs of developing the new one and bringing it to market and 3) profiteering
As mentioned by others, this price rise rules me out for a new one (if I could even get one). What was a (very) small, fun and relatively affordable car is now the best part of £50k. Yikes. Should have worked harder at school!
£36k was this years price list although you havent been able to walk in and buy one for 2 years so suspect the price didn’t rise as much as it would have if continued sales. Now £44k for the equivalent car. I suspect the new price is made up of 1) old price plus inflation, 2) costs of developing the new one and bringing it to market and 3) profiteering
As mentioned by others, this price rise rules me out for a new one (if I could even get one). What was a (very) small, fun and relatively affordable car is now the best part of £50k. Yikes. Should have worked harder at school!
Forester1965 said:
Numeric said:
I actually find the price of mundane cars to be more eye watering than say this Yaris.
Yep. £40k for a boggo 320i.
fido said:
Hmm .. I am sceptical that an i20N with 204bhp would be faster on any track given the Yaris GR is quicker on every metric (assuming the correct gear is selected).
It can be. It all depends on the driver. My mum in a Ferrari will be slower on track than me in a Fiesta ST. So maybe the i20N was faster. But it doesn't mean the cause was the car...I don't get people's obsession over a name. "£44K for a YARIS!". Who cares what it's called? If it had it's own unique name would the same people still be up in arms over the price? As a machine, I'm sure it's worth every penny - it's just a lot of pennies! Everything is these days...
pheonix478 said:
Forester1965 said:
Numeric said:
I actually find the price of mundane cars to be more eye watering than say this Yaris.
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