RE: Lotus breaks sales record, posts £594m loss

RE: Lotus breaks sales record, posts £594m loss

Monday 8th April

Lotus breaks sales record, posts £594m loss

Delivering 6,970 cars in 2023 sets a new benchmark, but Lotus has much work still to do


The last time we wrote about Lotus sales figures, it was under the shadow of 200 proposed job losses as the manufacturer sought to ‘restructure’ in the face of a £145.1m loss. Off the back of a bumper start to 2023, it suggested at the time that its short-term forecast was much rosier - and this has come to pass. It has just released full-year results which confirm that it achieved revenues of $679m (or £538m) having delivered 6,790 cars in the last 12 months, the most in its 76-year history. But it also posted a net loss of $750m (or £594m). 

Nevertheless, Lotus insisted the ‘results reflect steady progress in the Company’s execution of its Vision80 strategy’ - a strategy which anticipated annual sales of 150,000 cars by 2028. Needless to say, it was largely predicated on the success of an incoming lineup of new all-electric vehicles, and in this respect at least the firm can point to the early impression made by the launch of the Eletre last year. Already 63 per cent of its deliveries were battery-electric models, as production ramped up in the second half of the year. In the fourth quarter of 2023, Lotus recorded a 92 per cent increase in revenue and a 110 per cent increase in deliveries to 3,749 cars. 

Additionally, in February of this year, Lotus celebrated its public listing on the Nasdaq stock exchange in New York via a special purpose acquisition company (or SPAC), which, according to comments made by its CFO, is said to have raised in the region of $880m (or £697m). At the time, the manufacturer insisted that it was ‘ideally positioned to seize the tremendous opportunity in the fast-growing and underserved luxury EV market’. Unsurprisingly, the launch in September of Lotus’s first ‘hyper-grand tourer’, the Emeya, was identified as a key signifier of its progress, with first deliveries said to have begun in China last month. European buyers will have to wait till at least the third quarter of 2024. 

Lotus made no specific mention of the Emira in its rundown, except to acknowledge that ‘sportscars’ still account for 1,150 of the deliveries it made in the final quarter of 2023 - itself a 29 per cent increase on the previous three months (good news for anyone still waiting to see their car). Back in December, we reported that the i4 derivative had been delayed till this summer, and just last month Lotus confirmed that the Emira had finally been certified by the California Air Resources Board (CARB), meaning that it ought to start finding its way to American customers. The Eletre is primed to launch in the US later this year, too, as Lotus targets a threefold increase in deliveries in 2024. That would get it to around 26,000 and another sales record. But Lotus has a long way to go to ‘become [the] all-electric, intelligent and luxury mobility provider’ at the scale it envisaged reaching before its 80th anniversary. 


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Andy83n

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So lost around £90k per car made?

RedAndy

1,232 posts

155 months

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didnt they build a new factory at hethel and a complete new place in Wuhan? That must account for most of the loss

Andy83n

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386 posts

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Would have been cheaper to offer every customer a new 911T or Tesla than selling them a car

Magikarp

779 posts

49 months

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They seem to have a bit of work to do to grow from approx 7000 cars a year to 150,000.

DamnKraut

459 posts

100 months

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RedAndy said:
didnt they build a new factory at hethel and a complete new place in Wuhan? That must account for most of the loss
Nope, cash outflow but not expense. All the investments in PPE probably were capitalised, ie recorded as assets on the balance sheet. The expenses will likely have been RnD on the nrw EV models.

endorium

33 posts

195 months

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So they have invested upfront to make money down the line. Makes a lot of sense. You wont grow without spending. They have serious investement so future looks good. But, 150,000 cars a year by 2028, not a chance.

5lab

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endorium said:
So they have invested upfront to make money down the line. Makes a lot of sense. You wont grow without spending. They have serious investement so future looks good. But, 150,000 cars a year by 2028, not a chance.
It seems like a lot of growth, but it's approximately the same amount that Tesla did in 2013-2017 (when they went from a niche sports car maker to something serious), and lotus have the backing of one of the worlds biggest manufacturers. It's possible for sure

basherX

2,485 posts

162 months

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endorium said:
So they have invested upfront to make money down the line. Makes a lot of sense. You wont grow without spending. They have serious investement so future looks good. But, 150,000 cars a year by 2028, not a chance.
R&D is “only” half of the operating loss. And net liabilities (ie technical insolvency) within which net current liabilities.

I think I’ll invest elsewhere.

Frimley111R

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5lab said:
endorium said:
So they have invested upfront to make money down the line. Makes a lot of sense. You wont grow without spending. They have serious investement so future looks good. But, 150,000 cars a year by 2028, not a chance.
It seems like a lot of growth, but it's approximately the same amount that Tesla did in 2013-2017 (when they went from a niche sports car maker to something serious), and lotus have the backing of one of the worlds biggest manufacturers. It's possible for sure
Indeed, current financials not brilliant but entirely in line with a company that is having to invest in its long term future.

As above, I am also not convinced about that 150k by 2028 but hope I'm proven wrong.

Andy83n

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20x growth in 5 years.

Nah.

martin12345

607 posts

90 months

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Lotus will do (and have to do) what that Chinese masters tell them

This could go really well for Lotus (huge investment from Geely, huge BEV market in China, 20x growth = easy) or really bad (Chinese consumers don;t want to pay for Lotus "badge" and shun the Brand, Geely looses interest and uses Lotus purely as an engineering resource for sales outside of Europe and to enhance their own vehicles and stops manufacturing of Lotus brand)

I have no idea where between the two bookends this is likely to end as the BEV market (and whole car market) is going through such an unstable period at the moment

I have to say Geely have been a patient owner of Volvo so far which points to a relatively good future for Lotus

florian

291 posts

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Visited the London showroom last week: Whilst I was originally against the idea of Lotus building SUVs, I have to say that I was very impressed by the attention to detail and the quality of the interior. At least on pair with a Taycan/Macan from my point of view. Also, quite a bit of technology in that car with 800V powertrain, rear wheel steering and anti roll stabilizer. Also, very friendly and helpful staff at the showroom.

Personally, I would go for the Emira with the V6 manual. But for a family, I think the Eletre is a great proposition.

And regarding the ambition to scale from 7 to 150k units per year: Don't forget that Lotus - as Volvo and Polestar - belongs to the Geely group. They absolutely are in a position to scale up the production side. And from a demand perspective, the Eletre will be a strong contender in the Chinese market where Porsche sells 80k vehicles per year - many in the same segment as the Eletre.

Edited by florian on Monday 8th April 16:37

RedAndy

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martin12345 said:
I have to say Geely have been a patient owner of Volvo so far which points to a relatively good future for Lotus
thats the main thing isnt it. Lotus is no longer what we know and love -its just a brand in a group of badge engineered cars. But the group is going from strength to strength so the brand will probably do ok overall.


bigaoi

128 posts

158 months

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What's the sports car plan, going forwards?

chemistry

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110 months

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bigaoi said:
What's the sports car plan, going forwards?
Probably flog the Emira in various special edition variants, each with one more BHP than the last, for as long as possible (whilst banging on about the Elan/Esprit//Elise/Evora etc. in the 'heritage' marketing) and then eventually forget about sports cars altogether.


redroadster

1,743 posts

233 months

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Should offer test drives and give each person 10k instead of building cars won't loose as much then .

kambites

67,583 posts

222 months

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bigaoi said:
What's the sports car plan, going forwards?
They've got a "chest battery" (essentially mid-engined) two-seater EV in the works to replace the Emira.

https://www.lotusengineering.com/leva/

Potentially followed by a 2+2 based on the same platform.

Edited by kambites on Monday 8th April 17:06

SDK

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Andy83n said:
Would have been cheaper to offer every customer a new 911T or Tesla than selling them a car
Depends if that strategy gives them long term stability spin

Building Assets and developing new cars costs money but has long term benefit smile


Andy83n said:
20x growth in 5 years.

Nah.
Lotus sold just 576 cars in 2022, so already then are well up ! (12x)

theicemario

641 posts

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Haven't had the displeasure of seeing too many Eletre just yet

bigaoi

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kambites said:
bigaoi said:
What's the sports car plan, going forwards?
They've got a "chest battery" (essentially mid-engined) two-seater EV in the works to replace the Emira.
Ah thanks. I've done some searching online, I guess this is the Type 135, coming in 2027 (which is a fair way off tbh). I'm not sure what else they're doing, they have a big SUV (Eletre) and a fat-ish saloon (Emeya). I think a smaller SUV is in the works? Plus the Evija, though that one has the air of vapor-ware.