RE: Maserati reveals 180mph GranCabrio Folgore
Discussion
Nomme de Plum said:
911Spanker said:
Been on track with it recently? And what's the spec?
Nope sold it to a German guy. Dyno 350wbhp Honda K20A rebuilt to 2300cc with charge cooler and bespoke exhaust. 837kg with fluids and fuel.
It's around the cans these days or trips to France for fizz and Oysters. Still drive some nice toy cars in Tallinn when I'm there.
Jon_S_Rally said:
While perspective is important, for many people, cars are important and something they are very passionate about. You may deem other things more important, but perhaps they don't. There is nothing wrong with that - we're all different.
You might gain some perspective by remembering that.
Yes we certainly are all different. Hence it would help not singling out one person if you want to make a point of certain behaviour but talking to everyone exhibiting that same behaviour - especially the persons that started it. Because being different in not hating EV's certainly is a perspective not respected here. Shown in part by applying double standards to how some people behave. Certain behaviour is accepted from EV-haters but not from those that are open to EV's. It could help your perspective not making that distinction and expecting decency from all, not just people open to EV's.You might gain some perspective by remembering that.
And fyi: I have an MX5 with modified exhaust. Hope to buy an EV for a-b journeys and keeping the MX5 as long as I can for fun rides.
Nomme de Plum said:
Rumdoodle said:
Nomme de Plum said:
I've previously worked with a few members
I expect the feeling was mutual._ppan said:
Yes we certainly are all different. Hence it would help not singling out one person if you want to make a point of certain behaviour but talking to everyone exhibiting that same behaviour - especially the persons that started it. Because being different in not hating EV's certainly is a perspective not respected here. Shown in part by applying double standards to how some people behave. Certain behaviour is accepted from EV-haters but not from those that are open to EV's. It could help your perspective not making that distinction and expecting decency from all, not just people open to EV's.
And fyi: I have an MX5 with modified exhaust. Hope to buy an EV for a-b journeys and keeping the MX5 as long as I can for fun rides.
Thinking that something is boring is different to hatred. And fyi: I have an MX5 with modified exhaust. Hope to buy an EV for a-b journeys and keeping the MX5 as long as I can for fun rides.
I'm not so sure this is decent car, or even one that makes any sense.
On the one hand I guess the average old fart, mild whiff of piss, mazza owner will be pretty happy to waft around on smooth and easy electric power, but on the other hand, they old boys will likely fear anything new and miss the burble of an engine.
That said, Maserati's have never made much sense to me! I'd always lean towards an Alfa if I wanted something Italian and fun. But the only way I can see this being a good seller is if it turns out the handling and dynamics are seriously good, which is possible in an EV, despite the weight. Would I trust Maserati to be the company that gets the dynamics right..? Nope.
On the one hand I guess the average old fart, mild whiff of piss, mazza owner will be pretty happy to waft around on smooth and easy electric power, but on the other hand, they old boys will likely fear anything new and miss the burble of an engine.
That said, Maserati's have never made much sense to me! I'd always lean towards an Alfa if I wanted something Italian and fun. But the only way I can see this being a good seller is if it turns out the handling and dynamics are seriously good, which is possible in an EV, despite the weight. Would I trust Maserati to be the company that gets the dynamics right..? Nope.
TheDeuce said:
I'm not so sure this is decent car, or even one that makes any sense.
On the one hand I guess the average old fart, mild whiff of piss, mazza owner will be pretty happy to waft around on smooth and easy electric power, but on the other hand, they old boys will likely fear anything new and miss the burble of an engine.
That said, Maserati's have never made much sense to me! I'd always lean towards an Alfa if I wanted something Italian and fun. But the only way I can see this being a good seller is if it turns out the handling and dynamics are seriously good, which is possible in an EV, despite the weight. Would I trust Maserati to be the company that gets the dynamics right..? Nope.
The tanned middle aged mob in the south of France or California this is aimed at wont be driving it hard or considering an Alfa Romeo, who of course no longer offer a soft top.On the one hand I guess the average old fart, mild whiff of piss, mazza owner will be pretty happy to waft around on smooth and easy electric power, but on the other hand, they old boys will likely fear anything new and miss the burble of an engine.
That said, Maserati's have never made much sense to me! I'd always lean towards an Alfa if I wanted something Italian and fun. But the only way I can see this being a good seller is if it turns out the handling and dynamics are seriously good, which is possible in an EV, despite the weight. Would I trust Maserati to be the company that gets the dynamics right..? Nope.
It’s not a Ghibli vs. Giulia scenario.
Rough101 said:
TheDeuce said:
I'm not so sure this is decent car, or even one that makes any sense.
On the one hand I guess the average old fart, mild whiff of piss, mazza owner will be pretty happy to waft around on smooth and easy electric power, but on the other hand, they old boys will likely fear anything new and miss the burble of an engine.
That said, Maserati's have never made much sense to me! I'd always lean towards an Alfa if I wanted something Italian and fun. But the only way I can see this being a good seller is if it turns out the handling and dynamics are seriously good, which is possible in an EV, despite the weight. Would I trust Maserati to be the company that gets the dynamics right..? Nope.
The tanned middle aged mob in the south of France or California this is aimed at wont be driving it hard or considering an Alfa Romeo, who of course no longer offer a soft top.On the one hand I guess the average old fart, mild whiff of piss, mazza owner will be pretty happy to waft around on smooth and easy electric power, but on the other hand, they old boys will likely fear anything new and miss the burble of an engine.
That said, Maserati's have never made much sense to me! I'd always lean towards an Alfa if I wanted something Italian and fun. But the only way I can see this being a good seller is if it turns out the handling and dynamics are seriously good, which is possible in an EV, despite the weight. Would I trust Maserati to be the company that gets the dynamics right..? Nope.
It’s not a Ghibli vs. Giulia scenario.
The problem with selling a £200k EV convertible to those people, is that even if it's a good one, they can currently still buy a luxury petrol convertible from somewhere else. Come 2035 that won't be the case, but as of right now, it's a tough sell.
I also think that most EV adopters at the moment are also attracted to new car tech, which Maserati is terrible at.
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