RE: Right-hand-drive De Tomaso Pantera for sale

RE: Right-hand-drive De Tomaso Pantera for sale

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tim jb

165 posts

4 months

Friday 19th April
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Lovely that is. None of that EV she-ite

Puddenchucker

4,106 posts

219 months

Friday 19th April
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If I had the money to do a Pantera resto-mod, it woould be very similar to this:

https://www.motortrend.com/features/1972-detomaso-...




thegreenhell

15,404 posts

220 months

Friday 19th April
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I like this one


kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Friday 19th April
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Arsecati said:
is there something wrong with me, in that I don't think that price is too bad?
On the one hand, I can't afford it; on the other, compared to other exotica it does seem surprisingly reasonable.

It needs more side-wall, but that's easily changed and it's a wonderful colour.

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Friday 19th April
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J4CKO said:
pheonix478 said:
Ultra cool looking thing but Koni and Wilwood scream budget job to me.
Thought they were decent brands, what brands would you be looking for ? I operate at the more budget levels so not sure what’s above those ?
Koni make some absolutely top-class dampers, they also make some complete rubbish. I'm less familiar with Wilwood but from what little I know I'd put them in the same sort of bracket.

In this case I'd be slightly wary of the fact that the advert gives so little information on the exact components installed (and perhaps that the seller can't spell Wilwood).

Edited by kambites on Friday 19th April 21:31

GTRene

16,597 posts

225 months

Friday 19th April
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Mr Tidy said:
Fantastic car, especially in Orange!

But I'd still prefer a Maserati Bora.
also nice, looked a while ago at one for a reasonable price...

then I saw how heavy they are... more then I thought, so I erased it from my bucket list.

I guess a de Tomaso Pantera is also way cheaper in maintenance and easier to DIY?

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Friday 19th April
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GTRene said:
I guess a de Tomaso Pantera is also way cheaper in maintenance and easier to DIY?
I suspect it's one of those cars where the bits they borrowed from other manufacturers are cheap, easily accessible and fairly reliable; and the bespoke bits are completely impossible to get hold of, stupidly expensive when you can, and tend to fall apart when you look at them. smile

GTRene

16,597 posts

225 months

Friday 19th April
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also like them in those outfits.









although I do not like say those ugly side mirrors...
then they better put something like this style on them. (I would do that)


ultrastapler

197 posts

156 months

Saturday 20th April
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That is glorious

FaustF

684 posts

155 months

Saturday 20th April
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A slight correction, it's a 5.8 V8 the 351 Cleveland engine that came in the Pantera. Some later ones had the lesser 351 Windsor.

I have this Cleveland engine in my 68 Fastback Restomod. It's a superb engine.

nismo48

3,722 posts

208 months

Saturday 20th April
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Cannonball Machine perfection cloud9

GTRene

16,597 posts

225 months

Saturday 20th April
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I still remember (not the day or year) about 30 or so years ago, I was at a classic car show in Utrecht the Netherlands and there was at least one impressive de Tomaso Pantera wide as in say the blue one in the pictures above.

I stood behind the car in that hall and wondered how wide that Pantera looked, I guess low and wide = very impressive when you came out a Fiat 130TC Abarth at that moment hehe

yes there was also a real Porsche 959 on a special place, and I found that one ugly, to be sure I looked at it from different angles, then it became clear to me, I found it ugly, I rather had say a 911 Turbo then that ugly Porsche 959 they wasted the nice lines (to my eyes) and the topper of that show must have been that de Tomaso Pantera which I still positively remember, but also thought, would that wide thing fit through my (at the times were I lived) narrow wooden Grage door hehe

aeropilot

34,670 posts

228 months

Monday 22nd April
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Ray_Aber said:
This is a lovely looking car, with an "in period" colour choice. What jars are the black wheels. Panteras did not, to my knowledge, ever have black wheels. They just look gash/naff/chav/vulgar (insert adjective)
Yep, the vulgar black wheels and rubber band tyres ruin it, but its an easy fix to bin them and put some proper wheels and tyres on it.


BVB

1,104 posts

154 months

Monday 22nd April
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Mega.

tch911

375 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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kambites said:
J4CKO said:
pheonix478 said:
Ultra cool looking thing but Koni and Wilwood scream budget job to me.
Thought they were decent brands, what brands would you be looking for ? I operate at the more budget levels so not sure what’s above those ?
Koni make some absolutely top-class dampers, they also make some complete rubbish. I'm less familiar with Wilwood but from what little I know I'd put them in the same sort of bracket.

In this case I'd be slightly wary of the fact that the advert gives so little information on the exact components installed (and perhaps that the seller can't spell Wilwood).

Edited by kambites on Friday 19th April 21:31
Its probably worth clearing this up, as there is very little knowledge about De Tomaso here in the UK.

The Wilwood brake conversion is excellent, and a well thought out kit that presents an enormous upgrade over the standard Girling brakes. Fitment isn't easy on Pantera, especially the wide body cars with the 14" wide, 15" diameter Campag wheels.

Koni dampers were stock on the Pantera, but obviously there can be a large improvement in using a modern version of the Koni shocks. Unless you have something made bespoke, you aren't going to find a fitment with KW or similar. The Pantera was pretty ahead of the game with all round double-wishbone suspension.

It's very common to modify Pantera, and it is considered more than acceptable to do so. The US market, where there are far more of them, you tend to see much wilder conversions, with Chrome large diameter wheels, unusual body/light modifications, Twin-Turbo set ups, etc...

My car isn't original, and in my opinion all the better for it. Originally a white GTS in the seventies, its now a wide body GT5, in Porsche Iris Blue Metallic, running much more power than when new (470bhp), Ohlins dampers, and the aforementioned Wilwood conversion.

Anyone heading down to Goodwood for the 100th Anniversary Breakfast Club, it will be part of a dedicated display of Italian cars, and I relish the drive down there!!! bowtie

Matt_T

398 posts

75 months

Wednesday 24th April
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tch911 said:
Anyone heading down to Goodwood for the 100th Anniversary Breakfast Club, it will be part of a dedicated display of Italian cars, and I relish the drive down there!!! bowtie
I'll be there in my NSX - I'll look out for you Tom!

tberg

575 posts

62 months

Friday 26th April
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Gorgeous car. I couldn't resist the urge about 30 years ago and still drive mine every week.

DodgyGeezer

40,539 posts

191 months

Friday 26th April
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tberg said:
Gorgeous car. I couldn't resist the urge about 30 years ago and still drive mine every week.

and with something that nice, why wouldn't you? cloud9