RE: Rodin Cars introduces V10 as bonkers crate engine
Discussion
aarondbs said:
You are a couple a melons aren't you. I drive a Tesla Performance during the week. Its s
te. I'd rather drive my wife's D5 XC60 with its inefficient but rather nice sounding straight 5 diesel, or better still my old 645ci V8 with no back boxes.
For our long journeys to France or Scotland I still have to keep a diesel XF.
Electric motors are dull, internsl combustion engines are engineering marvels. The suck bang timing, pistons travelling at incredible speeds over and over, the sound and the different sounds.
Back to the article about another work of art, what a thing! That would be a total waste in my old BMW but who cares!!
Im with you Aaron, put that engine in an old 6 series would be great fun.te. I'd rather drive my wife's D5 XC60 with its inefficient but rather nice sounding straight 5 diesel, or better still my old 645ci V8 with no back boxes. For our long journeys to France or Scotland I still have to keep a diesel XF.
Electric motors are dull, internsl combustion engines are engineering marvels. The suck bang timing, pistons travelling at incredible speeds over and over, the sound and the different sounds.
Back to the article about another work of art, what a thing! That would be a total waste in my old BMW but who cares!!
Rodin are moving up in the world, did i hear they have taken over the race team Caring? which races in many junior formulae
aarondbs said:
ManyMotors said:
tr3a said:
Twinair said:
On the side bar, I mean come on - this or wires with a commutator or what ever is inside electric motors??
Come on people - has to be this…!!!
Unpopular opinion: yet another variation on last century's tech, which is mechanically still based on James Watts reciprocating steam engine of the 18th century and still stupidly inefficient. How boring.Come on people - has to be this…!!!
te. I'd rather drive my wife's D5 XC60 with its inefficient but rather nice sounding straight 5 diesel, or better still my old 645ci V8 with no back boxes. For our long journeys to France or Scotland I still have to keep a diesel XF.
Electric motors are dull, internsl combustion engines are engineering marvels. The suck bang timing, pistons travelling at incredible speeds over and over, the sound and the different sounds.
Back to the article about another work of art, what a thing! That would be a total waste in my old BMW but who cares!!
Julian Thompson said:
virgilio said:
This is fantastic.
If it can be made road-legal, Mr Pagani should immediately put it in his cars instead of the old and slow-revving amg biturbo v12!
Probably this motor will need a rebuild after about 40 hours so I don’t think so.If it can be made road-legal, Mr Pagani should immediately put it in his cars instead of the old and slow-revving amg biturbo v12!
legalman58 said:
Very pretty- but in the real world unless you are as rich as Jeff Bezos will you really want to rev the engine as high as 8500 to get 391 ft pounds of torque - and we all know it is torque that produces acceleration where BHP is relevant for a high top speed?
Everyone except physicists and engineers.
P.Griffin said:
Personally, I find nothing exciting about an electric motor, but find a high revving ICE quite entertaining...but then I am weird like that.
I guess everything is both personal and relative. A good ICE is certainly more... visceral than an electric motor but IMO a steam engine, for example, is infinitely more interesting than both. Realistally EVs aren't replacing 12000rpm V10s (mostly because there are so few 12000rpm V10s for them to replace!), they're mostly replacing low-revving blown four-pots and I'd struggle to say the EV is less entertaining than, say, a VAG 2.0 TSI.
Edited by kambites on Friday 19th April 17:24
mrclav said:
But the electric motor is more efficient so therefore is less profligate and wasteful of energy/resources - that is indisputable.
Well, duh!Give me that wasteful profligacy any day! That's the point! It's like arguing that an AK47 is more efficient killing machine than a T-rex. I'm sure it is, but a T-rex is WAY cooler.
A Tesla is an efficient way of achieving effective results and remarkable numbers; it is the Stock Aitkin Waterman of the automotive world. This V10 is Keef. I know which I'd rather listen to.
evil.edna said:
legalman58 said:
....and we all know it is torque that produces acceleration where BHP is relevant for a high top speed?
Nope. What accelerates anything is the ability to do work against a force, per unit of time. Everything boils down to power, even acceleration.I don’t mean this as an argument, I just have an enquiring mind about this.
Truckosaurus said:
Probably a market from hillclimbers/sprinters who use similar high end engines from Judd/AER/etc or V8s made from 2x bike 4 cylinders.
That was my initial thought "what class does this work in" (being something that's clearly a race engine) and hillclimb seems the obvious candidate.It seems "a bit much" for a formula that's not dripping with cash; I can only guess that it will be quite a bit more pricey, and an unknown quantity, compared to a 4.0 V8 from Judd, when the older engine is already good for 700+hp. But maybe I'm entirely wrong and it'll be the same price, and as (relatively) a trouble free, as the established options.
legalman58 said:
Very pretty- but in the real world unless you are as rich as Jeff Bezos will you really want to rev the engine as high as 8500 to get 391 ft pounds of torque - and we all know it is torque that produces acceleration where BHP is relevant for a high top speed?
Not another one who doesn't understand the relationship between power and torque.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff