RE: Pristine, former press Ford Racing Puma for sale

RE: Pristine, former press Ford Racing Puma for sale

Saturday 20th April

Pristine, former press Ford Racing Puma for sale

Cult rally classic has been signed by the late Richard Burns and, er, someone else. That'll be £31k please


You never see racing teams build and develop performance cars for manufacturers anymore. Remember the Phase 1 Renault Clio V6? The mid-engined marvel was originally cobbled together by TWR on a shoestring budget as the company had been in charge of building the radical Clio V6 Trophy racers. Then there’s Prodrive, which introduced proper performance versions of the Subaru Impreza WRX years before STI launched in Britain (and offered the only hot Wagon in the UK with the GB270 like this one). Sure, carmakers keep us well supplied with in-house performance models, but nothing beats the lunacy of a hot hatch hastily assembled by a bunch of race mechanics in their lunch break.

Even a car giant as big as Ford would outsource its most radical performance models so it could focus on boring stuff that turned a profit. We all know how close the company was to Cosworth, given the two had collaborated on everything from rally specials such as the Escort RS Cosworth to Formula 1 engines with the DFV. And that’s what makes the Racing Puma like the one you see here a bit of an oddity, because Cosworth had nothing to do with it. Instead, the pumped-up Puma was developed entirely by Ford’s rally team in Boreham with Tickford piecing them all together. Talk about racing pedigree.

Presumably, nobody at Boreham had been told to build the Racing Puma to a budget, because the list of changes and upgrades over the base coupe are massive. So wide was the blistered bodywork that longer, bespoke driveshafts were needed as well as a heavily altered suspension with in-house developed dampers and springs to drastically firm up the ride (perhaps a bit too much depending on who you ask). Meanwhile, the brakes were upgraded with a four-piston system specially developed by Alcon and could allegedly produce over 1g of stopping force, or nearly twice that of the base car, and to make sure all the upgrades worked properly, Ford called on 1984 WRC champ Stig Blomqvist to hone the setup. 

However, the no-expense-spared approach to the Racing Puma sent the accountants into meltdown, and drastic cost-saving measures were put in place. The intention had been to top the rally special off with a turbo engine, but that would have been far too expensive so Ford compromised with the revvy, naturally aspirated 1.7-litre Zetec SE motor instead. New cams, a redesigned air intake and Janspeed exhaust helped unlock an extra 30hp, but its peak output of 155hp at 7,000rpm was still down on the 180hp originally touted for the turbocharged version.

Sure, the Racing Puma was rev-hungry, but given that the Impreza Turbo was pumping out north of 200hp and sent power to both of its axles, Ford’s rally special simply didn’t feel as, well, special. But the real kicker was the price: £23,000 when new in 1999 was a good £10k above the range-topping Puma at the time and, crucially, right in the ballpark of the Subaru. Ford earmarked 1,000 examples (500 for the UK and 500 for Germany) for production, but only the British allocation would get the green light. Even then, uptake was so poor that Ford had to incentivise managers to run one as their company cars, though it’s doubtful they needed much convincing. 

Of course, we all know how special the Racing Puma is now, and in a world crammed with heavy and overpowered performance cars, a lightweight, revvy front-wheel drive coupe seems the perfect antidote. The thing is, the Racing Puma has been on the radar of collectors ever since it arrived on the scene in 1999 and especially so now given how few likely remain in good condition. Can’t imagine many look as tight as this 67,000 miler, mind, and if you peek inside the immaculate engine bay you’ll spot two autographs: one from the late, great Richard Burns and the other is, er, unclear. Answers below please, folks. Whether they’re enough to justify the £31,450 price tag is up for you to decide, but given the cheapest one on PH is going for £24,9995 the days of the £15k FRP look to be well and truly over.


See the original advert here

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Marcodude

Original Poster:

57 posts

127 months

Sunday 21st April
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They didn't sell well when they came out and that's because they underperformed and were overpriced. So not much has changed with this advert then.... An easy pass...

Nice bit of nostalgia though

wistec1

292 posts

42 months

Sunday 21st April
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That other signature could well be Malcolm Wilson. As for the car, there are a lot better ways to spend £31 K and one of them is a new kitchen for the wife. It's a no from me.

Andy665

3,633 posts

229 months

Sunday 21st April
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A truly brilliant drivers car.

Too many people stop at the 155bhp and dismiss it - their loss.

Had two in 2002 and 2004, before I got my A110 it was the most capable and fun cross country car I have ever owned.

Painful to think I sold my second one for less than 10k

mooseracer

1,901 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st April
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Andy665 said:
A truly brilliant drivers car.

Too many people stop at the 155bhp and dismiss it - their loss.

Had two in 2002 and 2004, before I got my A110 it was the most capable and fun cross country car I have ever owned.

Painful to think I sold my second one for less than 10k
Agreed, superb cars. Accessible performance and a fantastic chassis. I'm glad they "couldn't afford" a turbo engine as, from this era, it would be a nasty laggy thing.

GreatScott2016

1,198 posts

89 months

Sunday 21st April
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No doubt capable on road, but I always struggled with the look of these bloated Pumas. Interiors a bit shouty too but lovely to see nonetheless and rare too.

keo

2,068 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st April
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Always liked these but went the Clio 182 Trophy route instead.

biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Sunday 21st April
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Must be a brilliant brilliant car. We had a bog standard 1.6 Puma and it was one of the best cars we have had. Utterly captivating to drive

Konan

1,841 posts

147 months

Sunday 21st April
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mooseracer said:
Agreed, superb cars. Accessible performance and a fantastic chassis. I'm glad they "couldn't afford" a turbo engine as, from this era, it would be a nasty laggy thing.
Agreed it wouldn't have been a good match for the Puma, but I'll defend nasty laggy turbos in the right application. They have a sense of theater that adds to the fun.

LotusOmega375D

7,643 posts

154 months

Sunday 21st April
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What has Richard Burns got to do with the FRP? He never even drove for Ford, did he?

dunnoreally

971 posts

109 months

Sunday 21st April
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I do like a Puma, but I'll take a boggo 1.7 and a zero off the price please!

martin12345

608 posts

90 months

Sunday 21st April
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I was one of those Ford Managers - the internal monthly lease on an FRP was the same as a 1.7l Puma so easy decision
A most amusing 5 or 6 months of ownership and peanuts cost

Honestly, I think the FRP is both brilliant and terrible depending on what you want in a car
The noisiest car I can remember on a motorway, I put ear plugs in
Torque steer/camber hunting so extreme is made every B road straight a corner
No traction at all in snow with wide tyres and low axle weight (sigma is a light engine) and not much better on wet roads
"Exciting" lift off over steer in the wet

BUT.................

On dry B roads when you were driving for pleasure rather than to "get somewhere" it sublime and so much fun i used to drive with the rear seat folded down to hear the exhaust louder (with proper pop's and bang's from a long period cam rather than direct injection exhaust stroke injection cheating). So reactive, so much grip, so much reward from rev'ing the engine and balancing on the throttle.


In truth, at the time I also had a Jaguar XJ8 and I used the Jag for about 90% of journeys where it's comfort was appreciated and only used the FRP where there was fun to be had, so only did a couple of thousand miles in it before swopping it for something mundane like a Fiesta/Focus (6 months was the norm for how long we were allowed to keep lease cars before they were moved onto Ford Direct sales outlets)

Would I have one now, and especially this one - no. I would do exactly what I have, which is get a GR Yaris which you can easily get a nice one for £31k now.




Edited by martin12345 on Sunday 21st April 09:45


Edited by martin12345 on Sunday 21st April 09:50

TheMilkyBarKid

547 posts

30 months

Sunday 21st April
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I’ve always really liked the FRP but for me they were easier to justify as a weekend fun car when they were at £15-20K for a good one, which really wasn’t long ago. I love the chunky arched styling but they always look like they sit at least an inch too high on their suspension to me. At £30K + though for weekend blasts I’d struggle to walk past this instead I think…

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16412174

Edited to add this very car sold for £10K less just two years ago:

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1999-ford-puma...



Edited by TheMilkyBarKid on Sunday 21st April 09:56

bangerhoarder

525 posts

69 months

Sunday 21st April
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With unlimited funds available, I’d have one. Having already got a 1.7 in fair but solid condition, it does most of what the FRP will do for a tiny fraction of the cost. It just passed another MOT after seven years of ownership, and I can’t see me selling it - I passed up a Clio 172 for it (should have kept that too!)

Jon_S_Rally

3,422 posts

89 months

Sunday 21st April
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Fabulous cars, in Racing form or otherwise. A lot of money now of course, but a great curio from a time when Ford actually had the balls to do interesting stuff for the UK and Europe, rather than just making SUVs and crossovers.

I'd happily have a Puma for a toy, though I'd probably build something from a regular one - you could have one hell of a modified one for this money.

LotusOmega375D said:
What has Richard Burns got to do with the FRP? He never even drove for Ford, did he?
Nope, never a factory Ford driver, though he did do a couple of rallies in Escorts in his early years. He did also make a guest appearance in an RS2000 at a sprint round of the RS2000 Rallye Sport Series in 1992 as a random factoid.

offspring86

713 posts

173 months

Sunday 21st April
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TheMilkyBarKid said:
Edited to add this very car sold for £10K less just two years ago:

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1999-ford-puma...
Advert states the second autograph is Matt Griffin's too.

Nickp82

3,194 posts

94 months

Sunday 21st April
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I would love to have one at some point in my life being a fan and owner of a normal 1.7.
I remember Evo mags summary comments were along the lines of ‘great car but the normal 1.7 already does it so well’ which still rings true today when you’re looking at £20k versus £2k for a nice example of either and is probably the reason I’ve never actually gone for a Racing.


DodgyGeezer

40,545 posts

191 months

Sunday 21st April
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TheMilkyBarKid said:
I’ve always really liked the FRP but for me they were easier to justify as a weekend fun car when they were at £15-20K for a good one, which really wasn’t long ago. I love the chunky arched styling but they always look like they sit at least an inch too high on their suspension to me. At £30K + though for weekend blasts I’d struggle to walk past this instead I think…

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16412174

Edited to add this very car sold for £10K less just two years ago:

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1999-ford-puma...



Edited by TheMilkyBarKid on Sunday 21st April 09:56
spot on. I love the look of them but even over £20k you've got some fairly interesting choices, the higher up you move the more interesting the choices (obviously)

mwstewart

7,622 posts

189 months

Sunday 21st April
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They are a very good driver's car, rarity of course adding to the value. Fast Fords are very desirable.

N.A.R.T Spyder

50 posts

61 months

Sunday 21st April
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A mate of mine had a bright yellow 'Millennium' edition 1.7 which he'd added similar wheels to the FRP and tuned up together with beefier suspension. The thing absolutely flew and not much could stay with it along country lanes. With the FRP you just have to be careful that the tinworm hasn't got to the original rear arches under those flared ones.

SDK

895 posts

254 months

Sunday 21st April
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I nearly bought an FRP in 2003 (I already had a Puma 1.7) but decided to put the money towards a house instead biggrin

I remember seeing it at the 2000 or 2001 Motorshow and loved it. Sadly I missed the chance to get one back then, and I'm not too interested now.