RE: Pristine, former press Ford Racing Puma for sale
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Meanwhile, the brakes were upgraded with a four-piston system specially developed by Alcon and could allegedly produce over 1g of stopping force, or nearly twice that of the base car
This, on the face of it, reads like bulls
t for a number of reasons.
Would the author care to back it up?
This, on the face of it, reads like bulls
t for a number of reasons. Would the author care to back it up?
TheMilkyBarKid said:
I’ve always really liked the FRP but for me they were easier to justify as a weekend fun car when they were at £15-20K for a good one, which really wasn’t long ago. I love the chunky arched styling but they always look like they sit at least an inch too high on their suspension to me. At £30K + though for weekend blasts I’d struggle to walk past this instead I think…
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16412174
Edited to add this very car sold for £10K less just two years ago:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1999-ford-puma...
Yes, there’s no contest there really. You’d have to be a real fanboi to take the Puma over that….or be able to afford both.https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16412174
Edited to add this very car sold for £10K less just two years ago:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1999-ford-puma...
Edited by TheMilkyBarKid on Sunday 21st April 09:56
Meanwhile, the brakes were upgraded with a four-piston system specially developed by Alcon and could allegedly produce over 1g of stopping force, or nearly twice that of the base car
IIRC whilst the brakes were great they needed regular servicing/rebuilds, at not inconsiderable expensive otherwise the brakes would just break
IIRC whilst the brakes were great they needed regular servicing/rebuilds, at not inconsiderable expensive otherwise the brakes would just break
This always happens on these threads....but you could buy x, y or z for the same money. Surely the assumption is someone buying something as niche as a Racing Puma will ONLY be wanting a Racing Puma, and I know its a cliche but the price then simply becomes a 'find another' discussion.
DodgyGeezer said:
Meanwhile, the brakes were upgraded with a four-piston system specially developed by Alcon and could allegedly produce over 1g of stopping force, or nearly twice that of the base car
IIRC whilst the brakes were great they needed regular servicing/rebuilds, at not inconsiderable expensive otherwise the brakes would just break
IIRC correctly the caliper didn't even have dust seals. I understand on a race car but on a road car it will only take 1 winter for them to be buggered. IIRC whilst the brakes were great they needed regular servicing/rebuilds, at not inconsiderable expensive otherwise the brakes would just break
I would always love one of these however. Where else can you realistically buy a road going F2 kit car/ S1600?
I would have to get the engine built and around 200BHP however.
Another example of a car that’s rare because nobody wanted it when new; in this instance, because it seemed like an expensive sheep in wolf’s clothing. Hmm.
Didn’t know about the engine-budget snafu.
And IIRC, the 1.7 can be troublesome but the ‘boring’ 1.6 is hassle-free and robust?
Didn’t know about the engine-budget snafu.
And IIRC, the 1.7 can be troublesome but the ‘boring’ 1.6 is hassle-free and robust?
NGK210 said:
Another example of a car that’s rare because nobody wanted it when new; in this instance, because it seemed like an expensive sheep in wolf’s clothing. Hmm.
Didn’t know about the engine-budget snafu.
And IIRC, the 1.7 can be troublesome but the ‘boring’ 1.6 is hassle-free and robust?
Both pretty bullet proof from memory, 1.6 replaced earler 1.4.Didn’t know about the engine-budget snafu.
And IIRC, the 1.7 can be troublesome but the ‘boring’ 1.6 is hassle-free and robust?
NGK210 said:
And IIRC, the 1.7 can be troublesome but the ‘boring’ 1.6 is hassle-free and robust?
I’ve had a few 1.7s (one in a Fiesta Zetec-S & in my current Puma & they’ve been bullet proof, withthe 1.7 having just over 120bhp compared to the 100 odd on the 1.6 it’s a no brainer which to go forI remember Clarkson & Co raving about the Puma on Top Gear back in the day, and as a former Ford fan I thought the FRP looks fantastic.
But every article I read reckoned it was far too dear for what it was, and it looks like that hasn't changed!
Although you'd struggle to lose money on a rare Fast Ford.
But every article I read reckoned it was far too dear for what it was, and it looks like that hasn't changed!
Although you'd struggle to lose money on a rare Fast Ford.
biggbn said:
This always happens on these threads....but you could buy x, y or z for the same money. Surely the assumption is someone buying something as niche as a Racing Puma will ONLY be wanting a Racing Puma, and I know its a cliche but the price then simply becomes a 'find another' discussion.
Apologies George that was my fault this time. I think it’s inevitable though that many people will (like me) look at the price and think about the other things they could buy for that money. When they were half the price, even for someone like me who would be looking for an interesting and fun car for the weekend - but not solely focusing on a FRP - I’d look at a good one and think of the (more limited at that price) alternatives and I’d think ‘yeah I might well buy that’. In fact I did look seriously at one of these around 18 years ago and went for an Elise at that time too, and as brilliant as my Lotus was I’ve often wondered since what an FRP would have been like to own. They do look great and I do remember from the test drive I had all those years ago the handling was terrific and the engine loved to rev, and maybe on our camera infested roads the performance is just enough - you could properly wring it’s neck and not be doing antisocial speeds. But for someone like me with finite resources I always look at all the options for a given spend, and at £30K there are other cars that would be further up the list for me personally. Of course everyone has their own preferences and buying criteria, and there are no rights and wrongs here, the great thing about cars is there really is something for everyone.
And this time happily there is another of these for sale for a good bit less, for someone who’s decided nothing other than an FRP will do…
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16545630
zsdom said:
NGK210 said:
And IIRC, the 1.7 can be troublesome but the ‘boring’ 1.6 is hassle-free and robust?
I’ve had a few 1.7s (one in a Fiesta Zetec-S & in my current Puma & they’ve been bullet proof, withthe 1.7 having just over 120bhp compared to the 100 odd on the 1.6 it’s a no brainer which to go forbiggbn said:
Both pretty bullet proof from memory, 1.6 replaced earler 1.4.
Fair enough, it is a “can be” not a “will be” 
- ”…Bore wear due to leaky injectors can be a problem on the 1.7. Listen for misfires caused by coolant leaks on the spark plugs…” – Autocar
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-cars/used-...
NGK210 said:
And IIRC, the 1.7 can be troublesome but the ‘boring’ 1.6 is hassle-free and robust?
ISTR it was only the early 1.7 s that had the problem with the Nicasil bore coating.Don’t think it was a problem on the later Racings. A lot of the engine development on the Racing was done by the late legendary ( in Ford tuning circles ) Ahmed Bayjoo
TheMilkyBarKid said:
biggbn said:
This always happens on these threads....but you could buy x, y or z for the same money. Surely the assumption is someone buying something as niche as a Racing Puma will ONLY be wanting a Racing Puma, and I know its a cliche but the price then simply becomes a 'find another' discussion.
Apologies George that was my fault this time. I think it’s inevitable though that many people will (like me) look at the price and think about the other things they could buy for that money. When they were half the price, even for someone like me who would be looking for an interesting and fun car for the weekend - but not solely focusing on a FRP - I’d look at a good one and think of the (more limited at that price) alternatives and I’d think ‘yeah I might well buy that’. In fact I did look seriously at one of these around 18 years ago and went for an Elise at that time too, and as brilliant as my Lotus was I’ve often wondered since what an FRP would have been like to own. They do look great and I do remember from the test drive I had all those years ago the handling was terrific and the engine loved to rev, and maybe on our camera infested roads the performance is just enough - you could properly wring it’s neck and not be doing antisocial speeds. But for someone like me with finite resources I always look at all the options for a given spend, and at £30K there are other cars that would be further up the list for me personally. Of course everyone has their own preferences and buying criteria, and there are no rights and wrongs here, the great thing about cars is there really is something for everyone.
And this time happily there is another of these for sale for a good bit less, for someone who’s decided nothing other than an FRP will do…
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16545630
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