Militant runners on country lanes
Discussion
alfa phil said:
Think it's runners 12
Drivers 10
We will play till whoever gets to 15 , that will give most opinions, don't think we need another 6 pages
Conclusion. Runners can be dicks sometimes.
Drivers can be dicks sometimes.
Can't we have a tie-break of which is better out of EVs and ICE?Drivers 10
We will play till whoever gets to 15 , that will give most opinions, don't think we need another 6 pages
Conclusion. Runners can be dicks sometimes.
Drivers can be dicks sometimes.
Or, discuss whether a Yaris GR is a viable alternative to a Bugatti Chiron or a Unimog?
Robertb said:
alfa phil said:
Think it's runners 12
Drivers 10
We will play till whoever gets to 15 , that will give most opinions, don't think we need another 6 pages
Conclusion. Runners can be dicks sometimes.
Drivers can be dicks sometimes.
Can't we have a tie-break of which is better out of EVs and ICE?Drivers 10
We will play till whoever gets to 15 , that will give most opinions, don't think we need another 6 pages
Conclusion. Runners can be dicks sometimes.
Drivers can be dicks sometimes.
Or, discuss whether a Yaris GR is a viable alternative to a Bugatti Chiron or a Unimog?
AndyWoodall said:
nickfrog said:
Exactly. They don't even pay road tax, nor insurance, no registration either. Cyclists are barely human. The b
ds.
Is this tongue in cheek?ds.Th problem is that drivers believe they have a greater right to use the roads and seem to think that cyclists and runners believe the same, but they cant possibly be as they dont have a motor car and dont pay "Road Tax".
Its part of the unwritten contract when you get your license, that other people may want to use the road network for purposes other than driving a motor car, either knock it on the head or stop rattling on about it, the odd runner or cyclists getting in the way briefly, maybe get some counselling having had this terrible experience "What your saw mens bottoms in stretchy fabric, get a claim in" !
Sometimes other road users will be in your way, sometimes they may not be aware off you straight away, some may just be ignorant, but it doesnt mean all are.
And, you know when you get behind a couple of cyclists and you can feel your blood pressure rising like a Russian Nuclear reactor core, when you are thinking there is definitely a PH thread on this later, maybe have a think when sat in a queue of cars happy as Larry for much longer without any reaction whatever, why is this ? Why is the occasional cycling related delay triggering a hypertensive crisis yet sitting behind a load of cars doesnt trigger any reaction ?
If I go for a drive now, saw to Marks and Spencers 4 miles away for a Lasagne for dinner, might get one cycling related delay, but will be sat behind a car doing 5o in the outside lane of a dual carriageway, will have to wait for someone to do a complex parking manuever at M and S, there will be a truck dropping off at the Builders Merchants, its just part of driving, you arent going to get everywhere at full speed, and then we get back and sit on here talking b
ks anyway !And this implication that everyone elses trip is frivolous and less important, mentions of leisure pursuits, mentions often about taking kids to school yet then, in the same breath mention "Going for a hoon, literally driving without any purpose, great fun, but dont make out you are delivering transplant organs that are on the turn or rushing to a fire, you are arsing about in a car going fast !
Some (Not all) drivers in stuff like Range Rovers do think they are special and important (evidence being how they park) but JLR make an awful lot of them for everyone to be a VIP, and it makes cock all difference in the law, its just big and cost a lot of money, your actual importance is the same as a bloke on his old Raleigh Shopper bike, or a kid in a 2002 Micra, and as long as they have the correct documentation, have the same right to be there.
We all just need to be aware of our actions and act considerately, its not that hard.
J4CKO said:
AndyWoodall said:
nickfrog said:
Exactly. They don't even pay road tax, nor insurance, no registration either. Cyclists are barely human. The bds.
Is this tongue in cheek?ds.Th problem is that drivers believe they have a greater right to use the roads and seem to think that cyclists and runners believe the same, but they cant possibly be as they dont have a motor car and dont pay "Road Tax".
Its part of the unwritten contract when you get your license, that other people may want to use the road network for purposes other than driving a motor car, either knock it on the head or stop rattling on about it, the odd runner or cyclists getting in the way briefly, maybe get some counselling having had this terrible experience "What your saw mens bottoms in stretchy fabric, get a claim in" !
Sometimes other road users will be in your way, sometimes they may not be aware off you straight away, some may just be ignorant, but it doesnt mean all are.
And, you know when you get behind a couple of cyclists and you can feel your blood pressure rising like a Russian Nuclear reactor core, when you are thinking there is definitely a PH thread on this later, maybe have a think when sat in a queue of cars happy as Larry for much longer without any reaction whatever, why is this ? Why is the occasional cycling related delay triggering a hypertensive crisis yet sitting behind a load of cars doesnt trigger any reaction ?
If I go for a drive now, saw to Marks and Spencers 4 miles away for a Lasagne for dinner, might get one cycling related delay, but will be sat behind a car doing 5o in the outside lane of a dual carriageway, will have to wait for someone to do a complex parking manuever at M and S, there will be a truck dropping off at the Builders Merchants, its just part of driving, you arent going to get everywhere at full speed, and then we get back and sit on here talking b
ks anyway !And this implication that everyone elses trip is frivolous and less important, mentions of leisure pursuits, mentions often about taking kids to school yet then, in the same breath mention "Going for a hoon, literally driving without any purpose, great fun, but dont make out you are delivering transplant organs that are on the turn or rushing to a fire, you are arsing about in a car going fast !
Some (Not all) drivers in stuff like Range Rovers do think they are special and important (evidence being how they park) but JLR make an awful lot of them for everyone to be a VIP, and it makes cock all difference in the law, its just big and cost a lot of money, your actual importance is the same as a bloke on his old Raleigh Shopper bike, or a kid in a 2002 Micra, and as long as they have the correct documentation, have the same right to be there.
We all just need to be aware of our actions and act considerately, its not that hard.
I mean, these lycra-clad runners/cyclists could kill an SUV driver with their running shoes or 7.8kg bike if they don’t f
king clean up their act and get back in their inferior box where they belong. Oh hang on. No. I got it the wrong way round. Any half-witted t
ttish driver needs to walk on a road without pavements or get on a bike for half an hour. The number of life-threatening incidents caused by car/van drivers will significantly outnumber the opposite. Driving home from the missus house last night about 10.15pm a runner with no hi-vis or light came running out of a side road and only just stopped at the traffic lights otherwise she would have been into my wing.
Their desire to keep pace and beat their previous personal best overrides common sense and rational thinking.
Then again it’s mostly unlit cyclists that have a death wish I encounter on the 10 mile drive home
Their desire to keep pace and beat their previous personal best overrides common sense and rational thinking.
Then again it’s mostly unlit cyclists that have a death wish I encounter on the 10 mile drive home
What some car drivers forget is that being a bell end isn’t reserved specifically for cyclists or runners, it’s like they’ve never encountered bad driving before.
I really enjoy riding in Europe, specifically Italy, drivers are significantly more courteous. Riding my bike in the U.K. can feel like you’re a second class citizen, so much animosity from angry people. No doubt I encounter these people in my car but the stakes are far higher on a bike. It’s always quite enjoyable breezing back passed people in traffic after they’ve made an angry pass leaving about 3 inches of space, I can almost feel the heat from their angry red faces.
I really enjoy riding in Europe, specifically Italy, drivers are significantly more courteous. Riding my bike in the U.K. can feel like you’re a second class citizen, so much animosity from angry people. No doubt I encounter these people in my car but the stakes are far higher on a bike. It’s always quite enjoyable breezing back passed people in traffic after they’ve made an angry pass leaving about 3 inches of space, I can almost feel the heat from their angry red faces.
sutoka said:
Driving home from the missus house last night about 10.15pm a runner with no hi-vis or light came running out of a side road and only just stopped at the traffic lights otherwise she would have been into my wing.
Their desire to keep pace and beat their previous personal best overrides common sense and rational thinking.
Then again it’s mostly unlit cyclists that have a death wish I encounter on the 10 mile drive home
A runner at 10.15 pm won’t have been trying to beat their personal best.Their desire to keep pace and beat their previous personal best overrides common sense and rational thinking.
Then again it’s mostly unlit cyclists that have a death wish I encounter on the 10 mile drive home
They stopped.
nickfrog said:
aeropilot said:
They are bell-ends, just as many of the lycra-cycle lot are now the law has been stupidly changed to make them higher priority than cars.......they think they can do what they like, as the car driver will now always be in the wrong.
Exactly. They don't even pay road tax, nor insurance, no registration either. Cyclists are barely human. The bds.
I was cycling home yesterday and a ‘driver’ pulled out of a side road as I came past - they looked like they were going to stop and wait for me but just kept going! Nearly had me off onto the road.
Maniacs!
I do think there’s been an increase in bell-end drivers round here. And they don’t even wear helmets or pay poll tax.
Maniacs!
I do think there’s been an increase in bell-end drivers round here. And they don’t even wear helmets or pay poll tax.
AndyWoodall said:
nickfrog said:
Exactly. They don't even pay road tax, nor insurance, no registration either. Cyclists are barely human. The bds.
Is this tongue in cheek?ds.It’s become a bit of a standing joke/talking point as everyone has known for a very long time, but a cyclist will still still mention it, often with the words ‘I’m surprised nobody has said’.
See also frozen sausages and bumming your neighbours dog.
Tommo87 said:
Yes. Typically a cyclists will deliberately mention this message early in a thread as a talking point, so they and others can tell everyone that cyclists drive cars also as some form of points winning exercise.
It is usually worth mentioning in jest because there are still plenty of dheads who type it in ernest.braddo said:
ATG said:
Sounds like unfortunate timing insofar as a variety of different road users all happened to converge on a point in the road where they all had to change their behaviour to avoid colliding with each other. No one's fault. No big deal.
Correct, and it would seem that the runner thinks the OP was too late keeping his end of the bargain. You and the OP should go see how you react as a cyclist or pedestrian when you feel that a driver's actions put you in mortal danger. You might be surprised at the strength of your reaction. That is why drivers get a surprise when more vulnerable road users get angry; the former don't realise how much they have put the latter in danger.
Or, perhaps the runner is just a random angry dude and the OP's actions were perfect...
JD82 said:
I was cycling home yesterday and a ‘driver’ pulled out of a side road as I came past - they looked like they were going to stop and wait for me but just kept going! Nearly had me off onto the road.
Maniacs!
I do think there’s been an increase in bell-end drivers round here. And they don’t even wear helmets or pay poll tax.
Tbf, modern car design doesn't help. The A pillars on our CX5 are quite big and can easily obscure a cyclist when you are pulling out of a junction. We live on a busy cycling route, so I always allow an extra couple of seconds when I pull out to check there are no cyclists in the blind spot. Maniacs!
I do think there’s been an increase in bell-end drivers round here. And they don’t even wear helmets or pay poll tax.
Believing that because you can afford a car, that all non motorised road users are beneath you is a third world driving habit.
It’s in the training manual.
You’re turning the UK into the third world, theses issues are so much less in the developed parts of Europe, but pretty similar in the rural US.
It’s in the training manual.
You’re turning the UK into the third world, theses issues are so much less in the developed parts of Europe, but pretty similar in the rural US.
James6112 said:
sutoka said:
Driving home from the missus house last night about 10.15pm a runner with no hi-vis or light came running out of a side road and only just stopped at the traffic lights otherwise she would have been into my wing.
Their desire to keep pace and beat their previous personal best overrides common sense and rational thinking.
Then again it’s mostly unlit cyclists that have a death wish I encounter on the 10 mile drive home
A runner at 10.15 pm won’t have been trying to beat their personal best.Their desire to keep pace and beat their previous personal best overrides common sense and rational thinking.
Then again it’s mostly unlit cyclists that have a death wish I encounter on the 10 mile drive home
They stopped.
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