RE: MG Cyberster goes on sale priced from £55k

RE: MG Cyberster goes on sale priced from £55k

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Silvanus

5,259 posts

24 months

Thursday 25th April
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carlo996 said:
Watching that review, it kind of sums it up. It looks good actually to my eyes, but, the lack of steering feel, weight and general GT way it is leaning means IMO it'll be more suitable for the odd jaunt down the sea front, rather than being an interesting car to drive.
I think this will really appeal to salary sacrifice owners. It will certainly stand out compared to a sea of Tesla's, Kia's and German EVs. It's gonna be one of those cars that flies off the shelves or tanks. MG are certainly doing well when it comes to shifting big numbers of cars.

Alex Z

1,140 posts

77 months

Thursday 25th April
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Skeptisk said:
For those not wanting to watch the TG video. Overall they were very positive with main “negative” being that it is more a GT than a sportscar.
And he was quite clear that being a GT wasn’t actually a negative.

If the handling gets tweaked slightly for the UK market then I think they’ve got a winner on their hands, even before you take into account the lack of competitors.

mcmigo

123 posts

154 months

Thursday 25th April
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Looks superb.

Love the design, inside and out.

Well done MG

dreamcracker

3,218 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th April
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carlo996 said:
Watching that review, it kind of sums it up. It looks good actually to my eyes, but, the lack of steering feel, weight and general GT way it is leaning means IMO it'll be more suitable for the odd jaunt down the sea front, rather than being an interesting car to drive.
I view car reviews in the same way as movie reviews.
Each reviewer will have a different opinion.


ChocolateFrog

25,480 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th April
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Blib said:
Top Gear first drive review by Tom Ford.

I was expecting quite a few bits to be lifted from the X-Power but watching that video it's quite clear they haven't. Seems like they've fixed the bits that annoy me about the MG4. This seems a generation ahead.

otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th April
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NDNDNDND said:
otolith said:
Griffith4ever said:
I'd kind of agree AND disagree. I used to have a Mk2 MX5 and never thought about its sound (which was anaemic) where as my R8, I do. Perhaps it's expectations from the engine? I never once throught of my MX5 as an "engine" based / performance car - I didn't buy it for it's power (or lack of). I bought it for its price, size, and fun factor. I guess I'm saying it can swing both ways.
Agree with that, the engine in the mk2 MX-5 was a joyless thing.
I dunno, I quite like the engine in my Mk1 - stainless exhaust, K&N filter, lightened flywheel, snappy gearshift and the shorter final drive ratio from the imported cars means the engine's definitely a part of the fun.
I liked the car. I thought the engine was the weak point. Coarse, thrashy, needed revs for all the power but didn't feel like it liked it.

lotus116tornado

312 posts

153 months

Thursday 25th April
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SDK said:
No one cares, apart from keyboard forum warriors !
That’s a joke right or do you have the biggest chip on your shoulder about electric vehicles.

It’s a good effort but over 50% heavier than my 987 Spyder and will handle and drive like a two tonne car.

To many on here the power to weight ratio is as important to them as the charging speed and range is to EV drivers. I know which one I’d rather be asking about.

ChocolateFrog

25,480 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th April
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Silvanus said:
carlo996 said:
Watching that review, it kind of sums it up. It looks good actually to my eyes, but, the lack of steering feel, weight and general GT way it is leaning means IMO it'll be more suitable for the odd jaunt down the sea front, rather than being an interesting car to drive.
I think this will really appeal to salary sacrifice owners. It will certainly stand out compared to a sea of Tesla's, Kia's and German EVs. It's gonna be one of those cars that flies off the shelves or tanks. MG are certainly doing well when it comes to shifting big numbers of cars.
I agree especially if they can comfortably undercut stuff like the M3P.

It strikes me a comfortable daily for people who don't have kids or dogs or need much in the way of practical carrying capacity with the benefit that if they are an enthusiast they could take it to the lakes or the coast or whatever and it would be fun doing it.

I don't think it's a weekend or special occasion car like a Boxster or even an SL might be.

ChocolateFrog

25,480 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th April
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otolith said:
NDNDNDND said:
otolith said:
Griffith4ever said:
I'd kind of agree AND disagree. I used to have a Mk2 MX5 and never thought about its sound (which was anaemic) where as my R8, I do. Perhaps it's expectations from the engine? I never once throught of my MX5 as an "engine" based / performance car - I didn't buy it for it's power (or lack of). I bought it for its price, size, and fun factor. I guess I'm saying it can swing both ways.
Agree with that, the engine in the mk2 MX-5 was a joyless thing.
I dunno, I quite like the engine in my Mk1 - stainless exhaust, K&N filter, lightened flywheel, snappy gearshift and the shorter final drive ratio from the imported cars means the engine's definitely a part of the fun.
I liked the car. I thought the engine was the weak point. Coarse, thrashy, needed revs for all the power but didn't feel like it liked it.
And gets 30mpg if you're lucky for all that mighty 130hp.

I thought the engine was comfortably the worst bit about my MX5.

ETA and the block weighs a ton, took 2 of us to lift it out.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Thursday 25th April 20:17

spikyone

1,468 posts

101 months

Thursday 25th April
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NO LARD said:
SDK said:
NO LARD said:
...and how much does it weigh?
No one cares, apart from keyboard forum warriors !
Well, I care - amongst many other things, I've owned more than 10 Lotus, most of them weighed well under a tonne, and none of them weighed more than 1200kg...
I care too. The MG is potentially interesting to car enthusiasts, although I'm not a fan of EVs and also wouldn't buy a Chinese car. 2 tonnes is heavier than my LC500, and that feels noticeably heavier than my GT86 (admittedly helped by the 86's supercharger).

Someone mentioned Chris Harris' comments on weight. Much as I respect his opinion, I've never driven a heavy car that didn't feel its weight. You can mask weight with power to some degree - which sadly seems to be the way the industry is going, throwing yet more power at ever-heavier cars - but it's much, much harder to hide it under braking or turning.

This or a (petrol-powered) Boxster? No contest, I'd take the Porsche every single time without ever wondering "what if?".

And climate control on a screen? That dangerous nonsense needs to be banned sooner rather than later.

CG2020UK

1,525 posts

41 months

Thursday 25th April
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cerb4.5lee said:
I know that I have a terrible habit of jumping on the dislike EV train, however I do find myself a bit fascinated by a 2 seater Roadster EV though for sure, even if it does weigh as much as the moon.
They are starting to wear you down!

Give it another 6 months you’ll be driving your Nissan Leaf to the boat club and your caterham and M4 will be sold biglaugh

z89

20 posts

161 months

Thursday 25th April
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Rob747 said:
Trophy 2110kg
GT 2210kg

From the MG configurator
That's heavier than an Audi Q7, which handles like a boat.

otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th April
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z89 said:
Rob747 said:
Trophy 2110kg
GT 2210kg

From the MG configurator
That's heavier than an Audi Q7, which handles like a boat.
It would appear that it's the maximum weight with passengers and luggage, not the empty kerb weight.

TheDrownedApe

1,036 posts

57 months

Thursday 25th April
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Great addition from MG. Heavy EVs are the future until 2040 ish when battery tech evolves.

My only concern is the software that currently resides the other MGs and the stories I've read on here.

Please people stop arguing over nonsense, we are all bored of it

cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Thursday 25th April
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CG2020UK said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I know that I have a terrible habit of jumping on the dislike EV train, however I do find myself a bit fascinated by a 2 seater Roadster EV though for sure, even if it does weigh as much as the moon.
They are starting to wear you down!

Give it another 6 months you’ll be driving your Nissan Leaf to the boat club and your caterham and M4 will be sold biglaugh
hehe

I have actually flirted with the idea of an electric Mini a few times in the past in fairness! getmecoat

J4CKO

41,635 posts

201 months

Thursday 25th April
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If you care about weight, you won’t buy it, if you aren’t, then you might.

People buy massive diesel and petrol SUVs and they probably know they are quite heavy but not how much.

People buy SLs and stuff, they don’t get the scales out and check its weight.

Does it look cool, is it shiny, is it fast, how much does it cost to buy, and run, will it get me a shag ?

They aren’t agonising over its weight by and large, like people buy audio equipment that would offend audiophiles but they think is awesome.

You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.

Watched the TG video, looks alright, not particularly on my next car list but it’s got some appeal.

Would love someone to produce a light EV sports car in the future, this isn’t that yet, it is more a cruiser than a back roads weapon.

It is, despite all the moaning, evidence that there may be more interesting EVs coming, fair play to MG they are the first and it’s a credible looking effort.

cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Thursday 25th April
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spikyone said:
Someone mentioned Chris Harris' comments on weight. Much as I respect his opinion, I've never driven a heavy car that didn't feel its weight. You can mask weight with power to some degree - which sadly seems to be the way the industry is going, throwing yet more power at ever-heavier cars - but it's much, much harder to hide it under braking or turning.
Spot on, and I've always felt the same as you in that regard for definite. thumbup

Turbos or batteries/motors help with the weight no doubt, but you aren't ever going to be hiding that kind of mass in the corners and under braking as you say for sure.

To someone who isn't into cars...then I guess that it won't matter, but for those of us who are into cars, it most certainly does though.

ChocolateFrog

25,480 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th April
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TheDrownedApe said:
Great addition from MG. Heavy EVs are the future until 2040 ish when battery tech evolves.

My only concern is the software that currently resides the other MGs and the stories I've read on here.

Please people stop arguing over nonsense, we are all bored of it
MG software is head and shoulders above VW software so I wouldn't worry too much about that.

JJJ.

1,285 posts

16 months

Thursday 25th April
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J4CKO said:
If you care about weight, you won’t buy it, if you aren’t, then you might.

People buy massive diesel and petrol SUVs and they probably know they are quite heavy but not how much.

People buy SLs and stuff, they don’t get the scales out and check its weight.

Does it look cool, is it shiny, is it fast, how much does it cost to buy, and run, will it get me a shag ?

They aren’t agonising over its weight by and large, like people buy audio equipment that would offend audiophiles but they think is awesome.

You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.

Watched the TG video, looks alright, not particularly on my next car list but it’s got some appeal.

Would love someone to produce a light EV sports car in the future, this isn’t that yet, it is more a cruiser than a back roads weapon.

It is, despite all the moaning, evidence that there may be more interesting EVs coming, fair play to MG they are the first and it’s a credible looking effort.
''You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.''

This.

I suspect any enthusiast when looking to buy a sports car or a GT will go ICE and take all the vehicle's parameters and specification into consideration when making a choice. While going EV they're on the back foot straight off as they'd stuck with a major weight penalty, no gearbox and of course no engine, which many would consider the beating heart of such a car.
Admittedly, I understand EV's have their place as tool but can't get my head around any enthusiast buying one as a sports car or GT.

Dombilano

1,148 posts

56 months

Thursday 25th April
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Looks good, but that fking name....