RE: Jaguar XF V6 Luxury | Shed of the Week
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sinisterpenguin said:
Much as I could do with an electronically assisted rising knob nowadays it’s Barge pole at the ready for me I’m afraid, just too many things on the “something else to go wrong” list.
I had one the exact same as that (different wheels though), and that gear selector was the only thing that went wrong with it, not a cheap part to replace.BeastieBoy73 said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
BeastieBoy73 said:
I’m 51 and still consider myself too young to drive a Jaguar so it’s a no from me.
I’m also 51 and getting a Jaguar in a few weeks time.To be fair to him, his was a dark blue 4.2l XJ6 back in the early 80's. His firm was doing work with BL and they wanted to try out a manual so it came with a five speed box and three pedals. Because it was a company car, it was insured for any driver and so aged 17 and having just passed my test I was allowed to borrow it.
Loved that car.
Never buy a car with an EML light on. Its a simple rule of mine. Might be a quick fix, might not, but in truth, if it was an easy fix the vendor would get it sorted. Hate all these ads with "EML light on, doesnt affect the drive". Well if it was that simple why didnt you fix it before selling it. So a no from me. I like the XF, but its a 17 year old Jaguar and a cheap one. They don't have the best reliability record in the world do they if you look at the annual reliability tables.
greenarrow said:
Never buy a car with an EML light on. Its a simple rule of mine. Might be a quick fix, might not, but in truth, if it was an easy fix the vendor would get it sorted. Hate all these ads with "EML light on, doesnt affect the drive". Well if it was that simple why didnt you fix it before selling it. So a no from me. I like the XF, but its a 17 year old Jaguar and a cheap one. They don't have the best reliability record in the world do they if you look at the annual reliability tables.
This is a very good rule regardless of make, model and budget 
I am not a fan of the colour, but they are still a lovely place to sit and waft.
As a Shed? I am not sure I am brave enough. I watched my father in law save up for an buy and early XF and had all sorts of borked-ness, only improved on by the borkiness of the replacement car - the XE which was substituted by the dealer as newer and more reliable...and was then off the road for 5 months of the first year of ownership. So he went back to a Volvo and still has hit with out any faults over a decade later....
As a Shed? I am not sure I am brave enough. I watched my father in law save up for an buy and early XF and had all sorts of borked-ness, only improved on by the borkiness of the replacement car - the XE which was substituted by the dealer as newer and more reliable...and was then off the road for 5 months of the first year of ownership. So he went back to a Volvo and still has hit with out any faults over a decade later....
Luxury was the base model, biggest visible difference to the higher models is the leather on the seats and you get grained vinyl leather effect on the dash and doors rather than real leather. If you're happy with anything Mercedes Benz sell for south of £80k you'll be fine with it though.
They're good cars, Jaguar reliability and durability was at least as good as any of the usual suspects by the end of the PAG/Ford era, although it seems to have gone backwards since. It's not like a £2k 2008 5 series or E class isn't a rolling bork fest of fluid leaks now either
Not this engine though, it's decently smooth but like all the old mid sized petrols the fuel and RFL cost in to performance out is just not good enough. RFL is the killer really, if you didn't do many miles the economy would be fine, but £700+ a year before it turns a wheel for a 240bhp V6 is hard to accept.
The 4.2 V8 is nice though. Also not this example, the EML can't be anything cheap if they haven't sorted it.
They're good cars, Jaguar reliability and durability was at least as good as any of the usual suspects by the end of the PAG/Ford era, although it seems to have gone backwards since. It's not like a £2k 2008 5 series or E class isn't a rolling bork fest of fluid leaks now either
Not this engine though, it's decently smooth but like all the old mid sized petrols the fuel and RFL cost in to performance out is just not good enough. RFL is the killer really, if you didn't do many miles the economy would be fine, but £700+ a year before it turns a wheel for a 240bhp V6 is hard to accept.
The 4.2 V8 is nice though. Also not this example, the EML can't be anything cheap if they haven't sorted it.
My boss at the time bought one new in 2009 (a V6 "S" diesel in Premium Luxury trim). The interior had a massive wow factor at the time with the rotating vents and the rising gear selector (plus the "pulse" on the start button). It also remains one of the swiftest, smoothest diesel cars I've ever experienced, and the optional upgrade Bowers and Wilkins hi-fi it was fitted with is still one of the best in-car sound systems I've heard.
Definitely met the Jaguar "space, pace and grace" criteria in spades. It was a genuinely lovely thing.
Unfortunately, it also lived up to every single stereotype about Jaguar build quality and reliability. Shoddily built, with various interior creaks and other odd noises creeping in over the first few thousand miles, and developing a loud, intermittent clonk from underneath which was traced to an incorrectly installed fuel tank at the factory. Various electrical gremlins as well that would come and go of their own accord, and could never be traced or fixed.
I'd want to know what that engine management light was all about before I even considered this one. Given it's a dealer selling it, the chances are they've looked into it and it's something expensive or painful to sort out.
Definitely met the Jaguar "space, pace and grace" criteria in spades. It was a genuinely lovely thing.
Unfortunately, it also lived up to every single stereotype about Jaguar build quality and reliability. Shoddily built, with various interior creaks and other odd noises creeping in over the first few thousand miles, and developing a loud, intermittent clonk from underneath which was traced to an incorrectly installed fuel tank at the factory. Various electrical gremlins as well that would come and go of their own accord, and could never be traced or fixed.
I'd want to know what that engine management light was all about before I even considered this one. Given it's a dealer selling it, the chances are they've looked into it and it's something expensive or painful to sort out.
GianiCakes said:
Those electronics in the boot were the cause of the Sky team car failure in the 2013 Tour de France causing Froome to get a penalty on the Alp d’huez stage. Water sloshed out of their cool box and the car broke down. Probably not a big factor in a SotW decision but it’s an interesting connection to a minor piece of sporting history.
I remember that… didn’t Richie Porte then get sent up to give him a gel too late?Anyhow, the other day I saw the Team Sky F Type which followed Froome in the time trial… coolest team car ever!
Are those people saying they're too young for a Jag also including F-Types, iPaces, F-paces etc in that, or just the older saloons?
I had a XF-S in my 40s. No issues bar a worn torque converter and seats with zero side support...so exploiting that lovely handling usually entailed sliding out of the chairs.
I had a XF-S in my 40s. No issues bar a worn torque converter and seats with zero side support...so exploiting that lovely handling usually entailed sliding out of the chairs.
greenarrow said:
Hate all these ads with "EML light on, doesnt affect the drive". Well if it was that simple why didnt you fix it before selling it.
the one thing dealers at this end of the spectrum are willing to do to their inventory: remove any halfway usable tyres and replace with mismatched bald ditchfinders.I've had both an XF-S diesel and an XFR of this vintage. I'm not 50 yet. Am I wrong?
The diesel was amazing, for a diesel. But it also threw a DPF s
tfit about once every 2 months, necessitating a drive from one end of the M9 to the other every time as you needed to keep it above 50 for 20 mins to regen. Yes, not a major issue, and yes, it was probably because I used it as a daily for short distances, but a car that you can only drive under certain conditions is a bit rubbish. I've stuck to big petrols since purely because of that.
The pre-facelift XFR is a proper beast, and a decent sleeper if you don't spot the 4 pipes. The facelift made it too obvious IMO, even if it's objectively better looking.
The diesel was amazing, for a diesel. But it also threw a DPF s
tfit about once every 2 months, necessitating a drive from one end of the M9 to the other every time as you needed to keep it above 50 for 20 mins to regen. Yes, not a major issue, and yes, it was probably because I used it as a daily for short distances, but a car that you can only drive under certain conditions is a bit rubbish. I've stuck to big petrols since purely because of that. The pre-facelift XFR is a proper beast, and a decent sleeper if you don't spot the 4 pipes. The facelift made it too obvious IMO, even if it's objectively better looking.
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