RE: New Toyota Land Cruiser launched in UK
Discussion
I do wonder what makes it so much more expensive here - looking at the nearest to new current version online in the UK shows a cost of £60-70k. Whereas the list price new in New Zealand is £35-45k (https://www.toyota.co.nz/new-car/land-cruiser/LAND-CRUISER-GJXT-SI3/?skuCode=LAND-CRUISER-GJXT-SI3-1G3-22#). It will be interesting to see what the new shape one is when it comes out over there.
Needs a decent (not a 4-pot) petrol engine. Harry M mentioned emissions as the reason why not during his desert review. I presume it’s more a case of Toyota not wanting to spend the money for a limited return rather than being unable.
Shame. I’d be sorely tempted to move out of my L322 otherwise.
Shame. I’d be sorely tempted to move out of my L322 otherwise.
JW911 said:
Needs a decent (not a 4-pot) petrol engine. Harry M mentioned emissions as the reason why not during his desert review. I presume it’s more a case of Toyota not wanting to spend the money for a limited return rather than being unable.
Shame. I’d be sorely tempted to move out of my L322 otherwise.
They could easily bring the Lexus GX over here (same car) with the 3.5 litre hybrid petrol. We always get left with the rubbish, who still buys diesel these days!Shame. I’d be sorely tempted to move out of my L322 otherwise.
I feel like theyve missed a trick with the engine.
Yes these arent driven with haste however if I could afford one i wouldnt buy it with that engine. If Toyota borrowed the B58 or the 3.0 i6 diesel from BMW, it would make it more appealing, not because of performance as these arent going to be driven like that but for 75k, I'd want to feel a powerful engine under the bonnet.
I drove an 06 plate RRS with the 2.7 V6 diesel, yes it was slow and slow however when you put your foot down, the presence of the V6 is there and I think that goes a long way, every new shape disco i see has the V6 diesel, rarely see the 2.0 diesels.
On that basis, I can confidently say Toyota won't sell many of these, thus rendering them hard to attain even when 5 years old due to the residuals based on the rarity.
Goodbye
Yes these arent driven with haste however if I could afford one i wouldnt buy it with that engine. If Toyota borrowed the B58 or the 3.0 i6 diesel from BMW, it would make it more appealing, not because of performance as these arent going to be driven like that but for 75k, I'd want to feel a powerful engine under the bonnet.
I drove an 06 plate RRS with the 2.7 V6 diesel, yes it was slow and slow however when you put your foot down, the presence of the V6 is there and I think that goes a long way, every new shape disco i see has the V6 diesel, rarely see the 2.0 diesels.
On that basis, I can confidently say Toyota won't sell many of these, thus rendering them hard to attain even when 5 years old due to the residuals based on the rarity.
Goodbye
Chestrockwell said:
I feel like theyve missed a trick with the engine.
Yes these arent driven with haste however if I could afford one i wouldnt buy it with that engine. If Toyota borrowed the B58 or the 3.0 i6 diesel from BMW, it would make it more appealing, not because of performance as these arent going to be driven like that but for 75k, I'd want to feel a powerful engine under the bonnet.
I drove an 06 plate RRS with the 2.7 V6 diesel, yes it was slow and slow however when you put your foot down, the presence of the V6 is there and I think that goes a long way, every new shape disco i see has the V6 diesel, rarely see the 2.0 diesels.
On that basis, I can confidently say Toyota won't sell many of these, thus rendering them hard to attain even when 5 years old due to the residuals based on the rarity.
Goodbye
Yeah the emissions of a big non plug in 6 cylinder will never happen in this market. Especially since Toyota screwed up their ZEV position by betting on dead donkeysYes these arent driven with haste however if I could afford one i wouldnt buy it with that engine. If Toyota borrowed the B58 or the 3.0 i6 diesel from BMW, it would make it more appealing, not because of performance as these arent going to be driven like that but for 75k, I'd want to feel a powerful engine under the bonnet.
I drove an 06 plate RRS with the 2.7 V6 diesel, yes it was slow and slow however when you put your foot down, the presence of the V6 is there and I think that goes a long way, every new shape disco i see has the V6 diesel, rarely see the 2.0 diesels.
On that basis, I can confidently say Toyota won't sell many of these, thus rendering them hard to attain even when 5 years old due to the residuals based on the rarity.
Goodbye
I'd like to see a twin test between this and a well-specced crew cab D-Max. I know the LC will be a better road car, but I want to know by how much and if the same is true off-road.
I don't want to believe this is just a glorified farm truck marked up to appeal to middle managers who want to pretend to be a bit outdoorsy, but I'm afraid I've got my suspicions.
I don't want to believe this is just a glorified farm truck marked up to appeal to middle managers who want to pretend to be a bit outdoorsy, but I'm afraid I've got my suspicions.
Misanthroper said:
How many people saying they’d love one would regularly actually use the off-roading ability to the full?
For most people better on road manners and performance is far more relevant.
How people use a standard cars on road performance ‘to the full’?For most people better on road manners and performance is far more relevant.
The fact is off-road, you can get stuck fast without adequate capabilities. That is not the case on-road.
emix said:
Americans get a far more interesting engine option. A petrol hybrid with 300+ hp, we get this tractor engine. 200 hp is not acceptable in 2024 on such a large vehicle.
It would do me!! I am, however, also surprised that with their long time experience of hybridisation and alternatives from within their existing range that there is not a large petrol or hybrid alternative. Seems like it will limit salesGassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff