RE: Why are women better drivers?
Discussion
Oh, the joys of the fatuous statistics dredged up by mainstream insurers as a pathetic excuse to charge numpties more!
I remember some research that suggested that your name had something to do with your likelyhood of ending up in an accident. Apparently the most 'dangerous' names to have are Wayne and Stacey
Oh my sides!
Or the colour of your car. Green and blue cars have less accidents, don't you know. Red and silver cars are more likely to crash. utter tosh.
The sooner insurance companies go back to treating each driver individually according to their motoring history, and the sooner universities find something better to do with their time than look up the pointless answers to pointless questions, we can all enjoy more useful insurance services.
But until that day I, like most PHers I imagine, will avoid the likes of Norwich Union, Elephant and Hastings like the plague, as we all know that if you're interested in cars and driving, specialist insurers will insure you regardless of any university experiments.
I remember some research that suggested that your name had something to do with your likelyhood of ending up in an accident. Apparently the most 'dangerous' names to have are Wayne and Stacey
Oh my sides! Or the colour of your car. Green and blue cars have less accidents, don't you know. Red and silver cars are more likely to crash. utter tosh.
The sooner insurance companies go back to treating each driver individually according to their motoring history, and the sooner universities find something better to do with their time than look up the pointless answers to pointless questions, we can all enjoy more useful insurance services.
But until that day I, like most PHers I imagine, will avoid the likes of Norwich Union, Elephant and Hastings like the plague, as we all know that if you're interested in cars and driving, specialist insurers will insure you regardless of any university experiments.
Is this information based on the old chesnut that Women cause less accidents/less insurance claims?
Well read it again, women are actually involved in more insurance claims but the total combined cost of these claims are less than what their male counterparts have been involved in.
So they're just as scatty as what they have always been but luckily so far so they've cost insurance companies slightly less..
Well read it again, women are actually involved in more insurance claims but the total combined cost of these claims are less than what their male counterparts have been involved in.
So they're just as scatty as what they have always been but luckily so far so they've cost insurance companies slightly less..
bmw114 said:
Sometimes it is rather scary when you're driving at 60 and there's a car less than 10 feet behind you.
I have to laugh when i read comments like this, it would be interesting to actually drive at 60 mph nine feet behind someone, it would look and feel like you are actually touching them.
Your guess of 60 mph at less than 10 feet is probably more like 25 to 30 feet which is still to close but how can you have a reasoned discussion when you don`t stick to the facts.
Oh, I don't know. I've had plenty of people very close behind. A nother blatant generalisation here, but its usually those in 4x4s because, I guess, their elevated height allows them to see over me whereas if they were down at my level they wouldn't be able to see much of the road ahead and would naturally back off to get a better view?.
You know that when (a) their numberplate is out of view in the rear-view mirror, then (b) the front of the bonnet disappears and then (c) most of the top of the bonnet disappears that they're very close indeed - even as much as the aforementioned 10ft.
This is probably pure fluke and is blatantly anecdotal......but
My mum has had 2 crashes, my female cousin 3, my fathers sister 1, my Mrs mother 1.
I don't know any blokes who have had crashes. Cars stolen yes, crashes no.
My cousin was multi tasking on each occaision. On the first she was changing a CD whilst driving and rear ended some poor bloke......On the second she was chatting to a friend, and on the third she was putting lipstick on.
My mother reversed through a hedge ( inexplicably ) and on a second occaision drove straight over a patch of ice.....and later explained that she did't think that it would result in loosing control of the car.
My mum has had 2 crashes, my female cousin 3, my fathers sister 1, my Mrs mother 1.
I don't know any blokes who have had crashes. Cars stolen yes, crashes no.
My cousin was multi tasking on each occaision. On the first she was changing a CD whilst driving and rear ended some poor bloke......On the second she was chatting to a friend, and on the third she was putting lipstick on.
My mother reversed through a hedge ( inexplicably ) and on a second occaision drove straight over a patch of ice.....and later explained that she did't think that it would result in loosing control of the car.
timmy30 said:
This is probably pure fluke and is blatantly anecdotal......but
My mum has had 2 crashes, my female cousin 3, my fathers sister 1, my Mrs mother 1.
I don't know any blokes who have had crashes. Cars stolen yes, crashes no.
My cousin was multi tasking on each occaision. On the first she was changing a CD whilst driving and rear ended some poor bloke......On the second she was chatting to a friend, and on the third she was putting lipstick on.
My mother reversed through a hedge ( inexplicably ) and on a second occaision drove straight over a patch of ice.....and later explained that she did't think that it would result in loosing control of the car.
Similarly, I know more women who've damaged their cars than men.
However, it's nearly always been absent-mindedness and parking knocks. The blokes, when they're had accidents, were driving like tw@s.
However, I reckon there are more cases of women in car park shunts than mad blokes disappearing off cliffs.
Typical - irresponsible minority spoils it for majority via a mixture of statistics and gross generalisations.
bmw114 said:
Sometimes it is rather scary when you're driving at 60 and there's a car less than 10 feet behind you.
I have to laugh when i read comments like this, it would be interesting to actually drive at 60 mph nine feet behind someone, it would look and feel like you are actually touching them.
Your guess of 60 mph at less than 10 feet is probably more like 25 to 30 feet which is still to close but how can you have a reasoned discussion when you don`t stick to the facts.
You are having a go at women unfairly.
I have told you a million times not to exaggerate.
Oh dear, climb off your soapbox a minute their mate
You haven't been in a car with me (have you) on any occasion that I've experienced being followed too closely?
It doesn't happen daily and I wasn't saying that it is ALL women drivers that do it. I'm just saying that WHEN there is someone too close behind it is OFTEN a female driver with the demographic of 20 to 40 ish.
I would say that if I'm driving at 60 and I look in the rear view mirror and can see the front edge of their bonnet and nothing below that then they are way to close!
Ideally, I'd expect to see the entire front of their car and at least a bit of road in front of them.
>> Edited by Kentish on Monday 7th November 15:42
Hi PHers.
1. Female better at multi-tasking. I know this is true cos I have now witnessed THREE women driving on the motorway whilst reading a novel. No, not a quick look at a map, READING A NOVEL held against the steering wheel !!!!!!!.
2. Following closely. I have reported this before, but we have some SPEC cameras around here, you know the digi ones which spot your front number-plate. Now the local "caps on back to front" brigade have very quickly grasped that if you are close enough to the vehicle in front then the SPECS cannot see your number !!. Yes everybody, they DO drive within 10 feet of your rear end, although this is at 50 mph as the limit, then they pull out and hare of at whatever speed they like.
This produces and exaggerates the speed differentials on that stretch of road and is therefore increasing the danger. Good old SAFETY cameras.
VBR CJ.
1. Female better at multi-tasking. I know this is true cos I have now witnessed THREE women driving on the motorway whilst reading a novel. No, not a quick look at a map, READING A NOVEL held against the steering wheel !!!!!!!.
2. Following closely. I have reported this before, but we have some SPEC cameras around here, you know the digi ones which spot your front number-plate. Now the local "caps on back to front" brigade have very quickly grasped that if you are close enough to the vehicle in front then the SPECS cannot see your number !!. Yes everybody, they DO drive within 10 feet of your rear end, although this is at 50 mph as the limit, then they pull out and hare of at whatever speed they like.
This produces and exaggerates the speed differentials on that stretch of road and is therefore increasing the danger. Good old SAFETY cameras.
VBR CJ.
Kentish said:
Sometimes it is rather scary when you're driving at 60 and there's a car less than 10 feet behind you.
I have to laugh when i read comments like this, it would be interesting to actually drive at 60 mph nine feet behind someone, it would look and feel like you are actually touching them.
Your guess of 60 mph at less than 10 feet is probably more like 25 to 30 feet which is still to close but how can you have a reasoned discussion when you don`t stick to the facts.
You are having a go at women unfairly.
I have told you a million times not to exaggerate.
Oh dear, climb off your soapbox a minute their mate
You haven't been in a car with me (have you) on any occasion that I've experienced being followed too closely?
It doesn't happen daily and I wasn't saying that it is ALL women drivers that do it. I'm just saying that WHEN there is someone too close behind it is OFTEN a female driver with the demographic of 20 to 40 ish.
I would say that if I'm driving at 60 and I look in the rear view mirror and can see the front edge of their bonnet and nothing below that then they are way to close!
Ideally, I'd expect to see the entire front of their car and at least a bit of road in front of them.
>> Edited by Kentish on Monday 7th November 15:42
Last year the wife and I were on our way to the garden center in my TR7 soft top and a dark blue Range Rover was " doing 60 mph less than 10 feet behind me", it worried me so i asked my wife to wave a hand at him to tell him to " back off" which he did by about 25 feet.
I pulled into the garden center and so did he, I was just putting my coat in the boot when he walked by and came over to say something, his wife said "Don`t Fred its not worth it " and carried on walking, her not him.
He then told me that he was`nt that close, now i`m no shrinking violet but he was old and small, like some sort of ex RAF type so i just said it was worring me, him in a big Range Rover and me in my pride and joy, again he said he was`nt that close so I gave up and walked away.
Waste of time talking to people that are in denial.
Do you think he was to close?
If i want you to see things my way i will exaggerate, thats the only point i was making.
When you use the word "often" i assume you mean more than 50% of the time, if you had been going to the garden center that day you would have been surprised then.
More "often" than not when i see someone up my exhaust pipe its usually a bloke, I agree with the age but not the sex, sorry.
I'll remember that women are better drivers the next time the dumb blond that nearly killed me on Thursday morning changes lanes without indicating or looking with her mobile in one hand and her lippy in the other!
Out of interest, I do frequent 'surveys' on the M25 whilst trying to avoid being killed by car drivers and over 80% of the occupants of cars are male.
Also, my wifes Mondeo is covered in dents, scratches, scrapes etc but she has never even considered claiming on her insurance.
Out of interest, I do frequent 'surveys' on the M25 whilst trying to avoid being killed by car drivers and over 80% of the occupants of cars are male.
Also, my wifes Mondeo is covered in dents, scratches, scrapes etc but she has never even considered claiming on her insurance.
In our house, the RTA is two vs nil in my favour (I am male), suggesting that (on the basis of a very small sample) we are atypical?? I am also the one who has had IAM training, done several track days, rally days etc, so possibly "better trained"?
Of course, it is me that has the speeding points - more proof if you need it that speeding has little to do with accidents.
If off to do some hasty wood touching just in case (and wife can shut up about the wood between my ears!!).
Bet this thread will roll on & on!
Of course, it is me that has the speeding points - more proof if you need it that speeding has little to do with accidents.
If off to do some hasty wood touching just in case (and wife can shut up about the wood between my ears!!).
Bet this thread will roll on & on!
_VTEC_ said:
Discriminating on sex is a bad as discriminating on race. - What does eveyone think about this?
Would it be ok for white men to have cheaper insurance than black men? Is this applicable to our current discussion?
>> Edited by _VTEC_ on Monday 7th November 19:25
25 years ago the world and his wife had a go at Non whites, Gays Irish and Cripples.
Now due to political correctness the only ones that you can have a go at are Truck Drivers( thanks Mr Blair), Women Drivers and IAM Members, Oh yes and cyclists.
We have to have somebody to have a pop at.
qube_TA said:
If women are better drivers you'd see more of them in motorsport.
Remember someone called Ayrton Senna?, one minute he was the best in the world then he was dead.
Women take less risks so have fewer accidents. Fact
Being able to do power slides, Hand brake turns and being able to take a 40mph bend at 70mph does`nt make you a safer driver, it makes you a risk taker and as such more likely to have accidents, Fact.
Speaking as a female driver who has this very evening had to take evasive action when some numpty decides to go straight on when they were in a left turn only lane, it does not matter one iota whether you are male or female driver. If you cannot drive for toffee, you are a numpty. Fact.
So tomorrow I have to go get my tracking done and my tyres replaced because I didn't turn on (my normally perfect) second sight and expect the aforementioned numpty to cut me up. I am sick and tired of the stupid media, insurers and some of the pronouncements made on PH about male versus female drivers. As I said, if you can't drive (and you have a licence to) you are a moron whether you have a penis or a vagina.
AAAARRRGGGHHH
Ace-T
PS He did not hit me, but only cos the Mini sticks to the damn road and I know its limitations (brakes, acceleration, handling etc)
So tomorrow I have to go get my tracking done and my tyres replaced because I didn't turn on (my normally perfect) second sight and expect the aforementioned numpty to cut me up. I am sick and tired of the stupid media, insurers and some of the pronouncements made on PH about male versus female drivers. As I said, if you can't drive (and you have a licence to) you are a moron whether you have a penis or a vagina.
AAAARRRGGGHHH
Ace-T
PS He did not hit me, but only cos the Mini sticks to the damn road and I know its limitations (brakes, acceleration, handling etc)
Well, I've been a high-mileage (30,000 a year plus) driver for over 30 years, and I've not even put a scratch on a car since 1979.
I put it down to driving defensively.
Agree with the comments about women drivers up the chuff though.
One day the person in front WILL have to brake suddenly, and the airhead stuck to the rear bumper will have a rude awakening.
I think the reaction of most people who're being tailgated is just to slow down though, isn't it ?
Perhaps when these girlies in a hurry learn how to overtake, (on single carriageways) it would be less of a problem for us good drivers.
I put it down to driving defensively.
Agree with the comments about women drivers up the chuff though.
One day the person in front WILL have to brake suddenly, and the airhead stuck to the rear bumper will have a rude awakening.
I think the reaction of most people who're being tailgated is just to slow down though, isn't it ?
Perhaps when these girlies in a hurry learn how to overtake, (on single carriageways) it would be less of a problem for us good drivers.
bmw114 said:
If women are better drivers you'd see more of them in motorsport.
Remember someone called Ayrton Senna?, one minute he was the best in the world then he was dead.
Women take less risks so have fewer accidents. Fact
Being able to do power slides, Hand brake turns and being able to take a 40mph bend at 70mph does`nt make you a safer driver, it makes you a risk taker and as such more likely to have accidents, Fact.
If you can take a corner at 70mph, it is a 70mph corner. Don't have to take it at that speed though.
Ayrton Senna was racing in F1. Hardly a fair comparison to tootling around by numpties.
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