Why can you not have twin engine cars on the road?

Why can you not have twin engine cars on the road?

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thetruemackie

8,153 posts

234 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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V8HSV said:
Yes Brabus put two 700cc engines into a Roadster as a project, about a million each for 170 BHP car


I thought they made a little V6 from 2 3 pots rather than 2 separate engines?

Pigeon

18,535 posts

247 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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bridgdav said:
Scrapheap challenge done it to a Taxi IIRC... And drove it on the road...

They had to put it through SVA without the second engine in it though.

V8HSV

2,457 posts

253 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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They bolted the two suprex motors together at a 30 deg angle from memory

jacko lah

3,297 posts

250 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Saw a Twin LET engineed road legal nova go up the strip at Santa Pod. 2 x 360 BHP Vauxhall LET engines, 2 six speed gearboxes. Near standard Bodywork.

Think it had a mechanical issue with gear linkages, cause at one point one engine changed up and the other did not.

.Adam.

1,823 posts

264 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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I think it's only road legal if the engines are driving the same axle, if I remember correctly, in Scrapheap Challenge thay could only run the second engine when not on public roads, as the engines were driving different axles.

docevi1

10,430 posts

249 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Pigeon said:
bridgdav said:
Scrapheap challenge done it to a Taxi IIRC... And drove it on the road...
They had to put it through SVA without the second engine in it though.
The second engine was disabled when they on the road...

Gaffer

7,156 posts

278 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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B16 DUB is twin engined, the guys who run Dubsport in Wigan also work at BlueFlame in Skem and its always going between the two places.

Claire

Locoblade

7,622 posts

257 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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scared but happy said:
But they are all driving on one axle/gearbox ?
If not I will go and find a box to sit in.....Ah, here we are


The Tiger Z100 WR (?) was 4WD and had one engine driving each axle, and the Audi TT mentioned above did the same with two 1.8T engines ISTR. The problem was, the Z100 needed about £10k's worth of Motec ECU to make it go in any direction other than a straight line. Thats the problem with having separate engines driving separate axles, that you can't control the torque split front to rear, so it handles like a bag of spuds.

>> Edited by Locoblade on Monday 6th March 22:07

Antony Moxey

8,090 posts

220 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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scared but happy said:
But they are all driving on one axle/gearbox ?


The Tiger Z100WR has two engines facing each other (hence exhaust headers exiting each side rather than all eight coming out of the same side), and one engine drives the front wheels and the other the rear wheels. It has two gearsticks too (well three if you count the seperate reverse one) and apparently you can run the two engines in a different gear to each other, which probably also accounts for the two rev counters.

_VTEC_

2,428 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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Pot Bellied Fool

2,131 posts

238 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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I remember my Dad (who was well known in the North West motor factoring circles) telling me about a guy on Merseyside (St Helens perhaps?) that had a twin engined Scirocco that he used to rally in tandem with his wife. My memory is a bit hazy as this is years ago but the name could've been Kim Mather.

Apparently they disconnected the 2nd engine for road use but don't know if this was just practicalities or legalities but apparently great fun was had when ever the 80's versions of chavs tried to burn off what they saw as a blonde bimbo at the lights.

I often went on his calls with him but never got to see this monster lurking in a workshop as far as I can remember - shame...

williamp

19,265 posts

274 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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On the same thread (more engines = more power) Citroen did a 2cv with two engines- the other one in the boot. Road legal

Andrew Noakes

914 posts

241 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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John Cooper built a 'Twini' Mini with a pair of full-house racing A-series motors. Actually that car nearly killed him...

I've also seen an Alfa 164 with a 3-litre V6 in each end

scared but happy said:
If it is due to scrabbing


What's scrabbing, then?


>> Edited by Andrew Noakes on Tuesday 7th March 09:26

scared but happy

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24,111 posts

230 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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Sorry scrubbing. As in scrubbing of the tyres if not running at same speed.

Andrew Noakes

914 posts

241 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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Ah, understood. Might be a problem with two independent engines. Any decent four-wheel drive system would sort that out so I wouldn't have thought it would have been a problem on the Sierra 4x4.

jeremyc

23,512 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th March 2006
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Andrew Noakes said:
I've also seen an Alfa 164 with a 3-litre V6 in each end
That'll be this one.

One in the back:


One in the front:


And the whole thing: