Anyone know how much 4 17" alloys with tyres weigh?

[Neil_H]

JR said:

Neil_H said: Gazboy said: If you aim for 20-25kg per wheel, you aren't going to be a million miles out. I think you will! Good lightweight forged 17" alloys will weigh from 6kg upwards, a tyre will be a few kgs. For reference I sent 4 shock absorbers to California the other week, the package weighed 25kgs exactly and it wasn't exactly light. Cost £150 by UPS. Have a look here: www.wheelweights.net/ Have you read your own link? Say 20lb for the wheel and 22lb for the tyre is about 20kg per corner.

1lb = about 500 grams (actually a bit less) so 20-22lb is about 10-11kgs. AFAIK??

[Neil_H]

Oh sorry you're saying the tyre weighs 22lb - really, so much?? If that's the case then I agree.

>> Edited by Neil_H on Monday 13th March 13:49

[slowly slowly]

I got 4x18 inche wheels with 225x45x18 from Roachford tyres in Kent and their contracted carrier delivered them for, i think it was £15 and the four weighed 60 kilos.

>> Edited by slowly slowly on Monday 13th March 14:34

[Mr Whippy]

My relatively lightweight Cyclone 15 inch alloys weight 8.4kg each, and the 195/50R15 Eagle F1 tyres weigh 8.7kg each new!

So thats almost 17kg per wheel and tyre for 15's. Average everyday 17's with average 215 width tyres (not £1500+ forged lightweight wheels) weigh over 12-14kg each, and their tyres another 8-10kg.

So, slowly slowly, the wheels you got must use some really light tyres, or the 18's weighed in at under 6kg a piece? They must be Dymags and cost close to £1000 a piece? Racing alloys?


Might help if people on here actually weighed some wheels and tyres on decent scales before presuming.



Interesting to note a new F1 GSD3 195/50R15 weighs 8.7kg, a worn one to the wear bars weighs 7kg, so almost 2kg of the weight of the F1 is pure tread around the outer 10mm of the radius. Would noticeably effect the rotational inertia!

The stock "cyclone" Peugeot 15 inch wheel weighs 8.4kg, yet the "Xsi" wheel in 15 weighs 9.8kg, really noticeable when driving and the ride comfort change to the cyclones.
The older Mi16 14" wheel is 8.2kg, so a very light wheel. Most impressive however is the mid-80's Ford RS1800 15 inch wheel, weighing just 8.8kg. Pretty good engineering for back in the day.

The only way to get lighter 15's than what Peugeot offer on my car to start with is to go to forged wheels, or some lightweight like the OZ Super Leggera, and even then in 15's it only saves 1-2kg at the most. Any more than that and it really is to go all the way to forged magnesium like Dymag offer, but they are ALOT of money.


It also seems from my weighing of various tyres, that the grippier tyres weigh more. Ie, F1 GSD3 8.7kg vs 7.7kg for a P5000 Pirelli... mind you, the T1-S weighs 7.7kg too...

So, the only way to know properly is to weigh the exact parts. On my car alone with new F1's on Xsi's they weigh 4kg more each than Cyclones with worn T1-S's, and they are identical in dimensions etc.

However, can't see an average OEM (BMW, Merc, VAG etc) offering much under 20kg per corner wheel & tyre on 17's, people like Lotus etc will though!

Dave

[Kentish]

Aarrrgh - thanks for all the responses but sadly it didn't work out and the e-bayer was an idiot!

Wanted to charge me £50 postal charge when I was collecting them and said he wanted an exact time for collection and immediate payment and wouldn't know when he'd be in for the collection because he was at college - I said I couldn't give an "exact" time for a courier (nobody can). He started to ignore me so I gave him negative feedback - fair enough I thought!

He gave me negative feedback, called me a cheap skate and a non-payer.

Oh well - another one of lifes little to55ers!

Back to searching for a set of wheels

[slowly slowly]

Mr Whippy said:

My relatively lightweight Cyclone 15 inch alloys weight 8.4kg each, and the 195/50R15 Eagle F1 tyres weigh 8.7kg each new! So thats almost 17kg per wheel and tyre for 15's. Average everyday 17's with average 215 width tyres (not £1500+ forged lightweight wheels) weigh over 12-14kg each, and their tyres another 8-10kg. So, slowly slowly, the wheels you got must use some really light tyres, or the 18's weighed in at under 6kg a piece? They must be Dymags and cost close to £1000 a piece? Racing alloys? Might help if people on here actually weighed some wheels and tyres on decent scales before presuming. Dave

The paperwork that came with the wheels said 60kilos for 4 wheels, maybe the courier firm has a fixed price for Roachford.

I`ll get my solicitor on to it

[Mr Whippy]

slowly slowly said:

Mr Whippy said: My relatively lightweight Cyclone 15 inch alloys weight 8.4kg each, and the 195/50R15 Eagle F1 tyres weigh 8.7kg each new! So thats almost 17kg per wheel and tyre for 15's. Average everyday 17's with average 215 width tyres (not £1500+ forged lightweight wheels) weigh over 12-14kg each, and their tyres another 8-10kg. So, slowly slowly, the wheels you got must use some really light tyres, or the 18's weighed in at under 6kg a piece? They must be Dymags and cost close to £1000 a piece? Racing alloys? Might help if people on here actually weighed some wheels and tyres on decent scales before presuming. Dave The paperwork that came with the wheels said 60kilos for 4 wheels, maybe the courier firm has a fixed price for Roachford. I`ll get my solicitor on to it

Nowt wrong getting them in as 60kg Just amazed that 4 wheels and tyres of such size could weigh so little!? Either they just said about 60kg, which is cool, or they are really light. Would be nice to know which for reference

Dave

[slowly slowly]

Mr Whippy said:

slowly slowly said: Mr Whippy said: My relatively lightweight Cyclone 15 inch alloys weight 8.4kg each, and the 195/50R15 Eagle F1 tyres weigh 8.7kg each new! So thats almost 17kg per wheel and tyre for 15's. Average everyday 17's with average 215 width tyres (not £1500+ forged lightweight wheels) weigh over 12-14kg each, and their tyres another 8-10kg. So, slowly slowly, the wheels you got must use some really light tyres, or the 18's weighed in at under 6kg a piece? They must be Dymags and cost close to £1000 a piece? Racing alloys? Might help if people on here actually weighed some wheels and tyres on decent scales before presuming. Dave The paperwork that came with the wheels said 60kilos for 4 wheels, maybe the courier firm has a fixed price for Roachford. I`ll get my solicitor on to it Nowt wrong getting them in as 60kg Just amazed that 4 wheels and tyres of such size could weigh so little!? Either they just said about 60kg, which is cool, or they are really light. Would be nice to know which for reference Dave

I think we can both claim to be right, but you are more right than i am.

I have just noticed a screw in my front nearside tyre so i got my spare spare out the garage which is a standard BMW multi spoke 15 inch 225x60 half used tyre and i thought "i can weigh it first".
It was exactly 15 kilos..... Victory.

er not quite.

When i weighed the 17 inche alloy (so called) it weighed 22 kilos.


What can i say....

>> Edited by slowly slowly on Wednesday 15th March 18:05

[mcflurry]

Parcelforce charged me £28 for 2 Brabus Monoblock wheels if that is any use to you..

[Holst]

My OX super leggeras 17" weight 7.5kg each.

Im not sure what my tires weigh (205.40/17) but I doubt they are are much more than the wheels themselves.

Depends allot on the alloys, my OZ ones are lighter than the stock 15" wheels.

[JR]

Holst said:

My OX super leggeras 17" weight 7.5kg each. Im not sure what my tyres weigh (205.40/17) but I doubt they are are much more than the wheels themselves.

I've had a chat to Goodyear and found the following weights for GSD3s:-

195/50/15 8.18kg or 18.03lbs
195/45/16 8.38kg or 18.47lbs
205/45/16 8.92kg or 19.67lbs
215/40/16 8.12kg or 17.90lbs
205/40/17 9.09kg or 20.03lbs

[stew-typeR]

i weighed my now sold OZ superturismo GT's and they came out at 19kgs each including tyre(17x7, 205/40/17).