WHERE IS IT NOW? Try to trace your old car
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DJ Jonatron said:
Well in my case i want the persons details from copart because i want to list him as the new owner on the v5 i still have and im still liable for the vehicle and of course to give service records and the spare key.
Nope - still not an acceptable reason but you already know that otherwise you'd have already applied to the DVLA using the V888, as per your previous post, and got nowhere. Besides all the keys & V5, in my experience, normally get sent to your insurer when it's written off / paid out anyway. I'm also fairly certain that details on the back of the V5 and the .gov site state that if you do send the V5 to your insurer you can also notify the DVLA of this by way of sending a letter with details of the insurance company and the date you let the car go to ensure that you are no longer the registered keeper.Essentially your former car was written off, you elected not to opt for salvage / buy it back, so your insurers paid out and passed the car to CoPart do be dealt with however they saw fit. Your responsibility / liability for the car ended when your insurers paid out and handed it to CoPart. They've since sold the car and it now belongs to someone else. The SORN currently on the car has more than likely been declared by the new owner as yours would have expired once it left CoPart.
Put plainly if the DVLA or CoPart hand over the current owners details for the reasons you're listing it's a data breach, so the only way you'll find the details is if the owner themselves decides to search the car on the internet or you stalk various BMW forums, etc.
Edited by AlexRS2782 on Thursday 12th October 21:16
AlexRS2782 said:
DJ Jonatron said:
Well in my case i want the persons details from copart because i want to list him as the new owner on the v5 i still have and im still liable for the vehicle and of course to give service records and the spare key.
Nope - still not an acceptable reason but you already know that otherwise you'd have already applied to the DVLA using the V888, as per your previous post, and got nowhere. Besides all the keys & V5, in my experience, normally get sent to your insurer when it's written off / paid out anyway. I'm also fairly certain that details on the back of the V5 and the .gov site state that if you do send the V5 to your insurer you can also notify the DVLA of this by way of sending a letter with details of the insurance company and the date you let the car go to ensure that you are no longer the registered keeper.Essentially your former car was written off, you elected not to opt for salvage / buy it back, so your insurers paid out and passed the car to CoPart do be dealt with however they saw fit. Your responsibility / liability for the car ended when your insurers paid out and handed it to CoPart. They've since sold the car and it now belongs to someone else. The SORN currently on the car has more than likely been declared by the new owner as yours would have expired once it left CoPart.
Put plainly if the DVLA or CoPart hand over the current owners details for the reasons you're listing it's a data breach, so the only way you'll find the details is if the owner themselves decides to search the car on the internet or you stalk various BMW forums, etc.
Edited by AlexRS2782 on Thursday 12th October 21:16
DJ Jonatron said:
Stick Legs said:
Does wanting to buy it back count as a good reason?
I thought I'd heard that due to data protection that it wasn't.
I thought I'd heard that due to data protection that it wasn't.
Probably not, maybe you should use an excuse to say that you forgot to give the documentation to the new owner, maybe service records or owners manuals or you could say that you took something off the car and you weee meant to include it in the sale but you didn't.
How long ago was this car sold?
AlexRS2782 said:
Privately it's only meant to be used to obtain past history / details of past owners of a car you currently own
On that specific point, it appears to have changed in September, there's a thing running in the classics section. Due to a change in the data protection laws (DPA is changing to a new thing called GDPR) the DVLA won't hand details of previous owners to the current keeper. Just wanting to have the details of previous owners for the sake of knowing is no longer a good enough reason. Stick Legs said:
DJ Jonatron said:
Stick Legs said:
Does wanting to buy it back count as a good reason?
I thought I'd heard that due to data protection that it wasn't.
I thought I'd heard that due to data protection that it wasn't.
Probably not, maybe you should use an excuse to say that you forgot to give the documentation to the new owner, maybe service records or owners manuals or you could say that you took something off the car and you weee meant to include it in the sale but you didn't.
How long ago was this car sold?
Alpaca said:
Probably been mentioned elsewhere, but the MOT History site now lists where each MOT was carried out. Given that most get their car MOT'd close to home or work, this should at least give a rough idea where your old cars are located.
Interesting, didn’t know this and the triumph stag that I’m looking for has seen the same mot place for the last 5 years. It covered 2 miles between mots one year so it’s either local or is known to them and trailered to and from
Edit: called them, immediately knew the car but they only see it and the owner for mot despite it clearly being really local. Suggested calling them a week or so before it’s next mot and they’ll pass my detail on!
Edited by andburg on Monday 16th October 17:06
andburg said:
Angry...
Owner of car has ignored my calls and not returned them since saying we could come look at it.
So after getting my fiancé excited at the idea of seeing her dads car again, seems she’s going to be disappointed.
Out of the blue he phones me, going to see it tomorrow. Spent an hour at the mother in laws this morning finding old pictures etc so we can copy them and pass a little history on. Owner of car has ignored my calls and not returned them since saying we could come look at it.
So after getting my fiancé excited at the idea of seeing her dads car again, seems she’s going to be disappointed.
DJ Jonatron said:
Well in my case i want the persons details from copart because i want to list him as the new owner on the v5 i still have and im still liable for the vehicle and of course to give service records and the spare key.
I'm sure you've sorted it by now, but in a similar situation a few months ago I filled out the online form to say it had gone to copart, using an address I found for them from google. DVLA confirmed the transfer in writing within a few days, along with a refund of the remaining tax (which was my biggest motivation for getting it done quickly)Twice Copart assured me they would send their pack explaining what to do with my V5 etc, 4 months later I'm still waiting...
DJ Jonatron said:
South tdf said:
CoPart, HBC etc sell quite a few car to exporters to break or repair in other countries and being a 7 Series is quite likely to have gone that way.
Really, i did a car check, and it shows it not exported, I used to own a lovely 2000 Mercedes E320 CDI, registration W664 RNS but in 2009, my dad drove down the motorway, and it suddenly broke down, something to do with injectors.
I dont know who he sold it on to, but it shows it being exported it may have been broken but i dont know.
Where do you think W69 LCB may have went, i doubt another country, because it does not show it has gone to another country
The cars a way too good to break OR scrap, they should be put back on the road all I want to know is what really happened to it.
Anyone know a private investigator? or some one that works for copart uk that can help me and get these details? Because if copart gave the dvla the details then i would contact the dvla myself and just fill in a v888 form and pay the 5.00 fee..
It would have been worth about £1k pre accident, so it has most likely been broken for spares.
You might have cherished it, but it isn't special enough to be cherished by anyone else.
If you liked it that much, it could have been fixed with a wing, indicator and bumper, so why let the insurance co take it away.
You could have had your payout and fixed it for less than £200.
Oh, and if you are worried about DVLA still having you responsible for the car, write to them saying you passed it to your insurance co on XX date.
Only fair I finish off my story.
Met the owner today and his first question was who wants to come for a drive? Took my fiancé and her mum out in the car.
Some big smiles all round, passed on some pictures and history.
At some point it us been stripped of the original wheels and was on steels when he bought it. Owner managed to find the right wheels so it matches the old pictures perfectly
Met the owner today and his first question was who wants to come for a drive? Took my fiancé and her mum out in the car.
Some big smiles all round, passed on some pictures and history.
At some point it us been stripped of the original wheels and was on steels when he bought it. Owner managed to find the right wheels so it matches the old pictures perfectly
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