RE: Brand new sports car due soon
Discussion
"I don't recall rolling a car ever - and I don't now anyone who "
I suspect in this car this statement would be try - roll it and I don't care what you have on your head it will be somewhat flatter and more separated from your shoulders than it wa before. Whilst I agree I don't know anyone (past or present) who rolled the car I do driev past at least 2-5 cars a year on their roof or have rolled in accidents so it is not a good bet I suspect!
Miles
I suspect in this car this statement would be try - roll it and I don't care what you have on your head it will be somewhat flatter and more separated from your shoulders than it wa before. Whilst I agree I don't know anyone (past or present) who rolled the car I do driev past at least 2-5 cars a year on their roof or have rolled in accidents so it is not a good bet I suspect!
Miles
I rolled and escort mk1 6 times when I was younger... gutted, it would have been worth a fortune now! Been over in a triumph acclaim too while trying to destroy it (they weren't worth what a rolled mk1 was when new!).
Call me nuts but I still wouldn't wear a helmet in a flyscreened car, I'm sure 545kg + velocity would squish you and it rather quickly. Roll cage to prop the whole thing up is what you need.
Call me nuts but I still wouldn't wear a helmet in a flyscreened car, I'm sure 545kg + velocity would squish you and it rather quickly. Roll cage to prop the whole thing up is what you need.
qwicksylva said:
I have a Phoenix with a fly screen and to be honest the buffeting you get with a helmet on is most uncomfortable. Much better with a decent set of goggles.
Rich
Rich
True enough, but to be honest I would only use a helmet if it was raining or sub-zero, to keep my head warm/dry, and in either case the chances are I wouldn't be going all that quickly.
I'm an old fart, these days, anyway, so I only use the Phoenix when it is warm and dry - I use one of my other cars with a roof and windscreen when the weather is nasty!
jazzyjeff said:
Sam_68 said:
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The Elise is overweight...when you compare it to '60's generation Lotuses...Remember that stuff like windscreens, wind up windows, wiper motors etc. adds a substantial amount of weight.
The Elise is overweight...when you compare it to '60's generation Lotuses...Remember that stuff like windscreens, wind up windows, wiper motors etc. adds a substantial amount of weight.
...all of which the original Elan had! ;-)
Electric wind-up windows, in fact, plus proper interior trim, servo brakes and the additional weight of a propshaft, separate diff (with cast iron nose) and cast iron block, yet still weighed a lot less than the most basic Elise.
In its final 'Sprint' form, it also managed to produce more power that the basic Elise (126bhp vs. 118bhp) despite having a smaller engine, half as many valves and old-fashioned carburettors instead of fuel injection. My Sprint actually produces around 145bhp, in fact, thanks to a few mild tweaks, yes is still torquier and more tractable than a K-series.
So much for progress, eh?
Mind you, you really wouldn't want to have an accident in the Elan and if you make the tyres wide enough to match Elise levels of grip, you have to start beefing up the suspension and chassis to stop things cracking and twisting.
drunknfuctup said:
I love the idea, but I am skeptical until I see pics of the prototype built.
Koni (shock absorbers), Alcon (brakes) and DyMag (carbon wheels)? That's roughly 10K in parts alone. Don't see how they can design and build a car that cost 35K with such a high spec.....
Rob
Koni (shock absorbers), Alcon (brakes) and DyMag (carbon wheels)? That's roughly 10K in parts alone. Don't see how they can design and build a car that cost 35K with such a high spec.....
Rob
You could spec up an Atom with all of the above for £30-35k no problem.
An Atom with the road pack typically weighs in at above 500kg and it is difficult to see what they could have left out, only other option is to use a bike engine I guess
Ben
Just noticed...their website lists Spire Sports Cars as the chassis partner, so what we have here, chaps, is an MK GT-R kitcar chassis with a wish-list of fancy components, (hypothetical) power by a Scooby flat four and a sexy, but non-existant (at least outside of a CGI rendering package) bodyshell.
Don't hold your breath, anyone!
Don't hold your breath, anyone!
I like this one, but I assume that the second seat will be under the cover?
I’d want one powered by a more conventional engine (its not easy or cheap to buy ethanol!) and with a perspex bubble/front wiper for the wet. Good price, car looks quite good and weight is excellent. I wonder how many PHers would be tempted instead of a Lotus or TVR?
As we know from the Jaguar F-type though, we rarely get what we want (don’t waste your time trying to convince me that the XK convertible is a patch on the F-type, its not and never will be).
I’d want one powered by a more conventional engine (its not easy or cheap to buy ethanol!) and with a perspex bubble/front wiper for the wet. Good price, car looks quite good and weight is excellent. I wonder how many PHers would be tempted instead of a Lotus or TVR?
As we know from the Jaguar F-type though, we rarely get what we want (don’t waste your time trying to convince me that the XK convertible is a patch on the F-type, its not and never will be).
john_r said:
Votes for the next model name?...
"Coventry Ejaculate"
"Coventry Toss"
Surly to be logical it would be the “Coventry Cigarette”? "Coventry Ejaculate"
"Coventry Toss"
speedy_thrills said:
As we know from the Jaguar F-type though, we rarely get what we want (don’t waste your time trying to convince me that the XK convertible is a patch on the F-type, its not and never will be).
To be fair to Jaguar (something I struggle with these days), they have never even attempted to suggest that the new XK is in anway linked/inspired or intended as an F-Type. They are two completely seperate types of car, which Jaguar will freely admit to.
What's all this rubbish about rollover bars, helmets etc? Do you blokes want to live for ever?
Just as well in my day, we wern't such wimps, or there wouldn't have been hundreds of thousands of MGs, Healeys Triumphs, & even Morgans.
I just checked the starting grid for the 1963 Bathurst production sports car race, with a field of the above, & you know, there's not a rollover bar in sight. We didn't use seat belts either. You couldn't do "le mans starts" [do any of you know what I'm talking about] with seat belts.
Has the British spirit gone to the same place as its car industry.
Just as well in my day, we wern't such wimps, or there wouldn't have been hundreds of thousands of MGs, Healeys Triumphs, & even Morgans.
I just checked the starting grid for the 1963 Bathurst production sports car race, with a field of the above, & you know, there's not a rollover bar in sight. We didn't use seat belts either. You couldn't do "le mans starts" [do any of you know what I'm talking about] with seat belts.
Has the British spirit gone to the same place as its car industry.
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