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dinkel

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Wednesday 25th October 2006
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Thanx John

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Holy clapper, what a truly wonderfull and intense car that is. I really wonder if a Macca M6GT could exceed that.


Small Block AC Cobra #79 driven by Peruch and Hitchins (2:59).


Dink's engine bay obsession . . .


. . . whoah, Bizzi 5300 GT driven by John Bendall and B. Wykeham (3:00) . . .


CC again . . . don't they look like kitcars or Mecano?


Chevron's Beemer four is deafening. I had to hold a hand to my ear here.

But all of a sudden that sound didn't mean anything . . .


. . . when the Lotus 77 fired up the Cosworth 3 litre.


Or even better, the only 12 of the bunch: BRM P160 - BRM P142/60 60º V12.
Legendary drivers like Pedro Rodriguez and Jo Siffert lived again when this (one out of eleven) car raced. The P160 wasn't a very succesfull car though. At the time it entered the tracks it was already outdated. It would serve for three seasons, which led to a single victory in 1972. The team finished sevent, sixth and seventh respectively in the constructor's championship. The death of long time financial backer Alfred Owen in 1974 was the final blow for the team and BRM was put into receivership at the end of the season.

As so many times before, the 540 kg and 440 bhp BRM was the odd one out, being the only V12 engined racer in a Ford Cosworth DFV dominated field.

More 'GP Masters' to come . . .

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Thursday 26th October 2006
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Same color scheme confused me then silly Didn't see the number, and it was parked somewhere else . . . Oh, all the info.

The GP Masters: I want to sort out the specs and history and add some informative captions.

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Thursday 26th October 2006
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L100NYY said:
dinkel said:

. . . whoah, Bizzi 5300 GT driven by John Bendall and B. Wykeham (3:00) . . .

Sweet Jeeeeesus! cloud9


I already dropped this one Ben:



BossCerbera said:
lick Nice Vette!
The date for next year's Spa Six Hour is 6/7 October (with practice/qually for some races on 4/5).


2nd, I already give Greame's Vette a compliment a few months back, it's gorgeous.

Date is noted.

VetteG said:
. . . about hotels etc I will get something booked.


Hotel Le Relais de Pommard Francorchamps is nice, but I had a guesthouse for this one, and it was cosy and nice. Wasn't the girl called Christina? She'd met Senna . . . very briefly.


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Back to the Formula cars:


The BRM at work.


The '74 Amon F101 was the only car constructed by F1 and Sportscar ace Chris Amon. It was his attempt to follow the likes of Jack Brabham and John Surtees, running the car under Amon Racing.
The New Zealander had little success with the car and shelved the project before development was undertaken. Designed by Gordon Fowell, the F101 featured a single, central fuel tank and titanium torsion bars. The car did not run for over thirty years until it was acquired by current owner Ron Maydon (2:35).


It was in one of the only eight separate entities of the wide-tubbed March 761's that my F1-hero Ronnie Peterson won the '76 Monza race. The fast but somewhat fragile car was based on an F2 design. Here's Dunn's (ex-Lauda?) March 761 (2:28) passed by Weunsch's Wolf WR1 (2:27).
The fast Wolf was designed by another hero of mine, Harvey Postlethwaite. During the 1977 season, Jody Scheckter won the Monaco Grand Prix and the Canadian Grand Prix and climbed the podium six times which enabled him to finish second to Niki Lauda in the World Championship and gave Wolf fourth place in the Constructors' Championship.


Sayles '78 ex-Vittorio Brambilla Surtees TS20 (2:39).
From its 1978 introduction, the Surtees TS20 was virtually obsolete. With it's traditional flat underbody design, it was no match for a new breed of F1 racers, the ground effect cars. Fortunately for Surtees, they were not the only team still running a flat bottom racer in the 1978 season. Among it's congeners the TS20 was one of the faster cars. Luck was not on the team's side but in the second half of the season, Rene Arnoux proved the competitiveness of the car, but noteworthy finishes were never recorded.


Wrigley's '77 Hesketh 308E (2:31). Remember the bike's?
Lord Hesketh was an excentric guy who became quite famous because his F1 driver was James Hunt, who did well in Harvey Postlethwaite's 308. McLaren took over Hunt and HP went to Wolf Racing and Hesketh was low on money . . . and all ended. The 70s: when F1 racing was fun.


John Moulds' ex-Jack Brabham's Brabham BT 23 BDA (2:49). Another legendary car: back in the days Jack Brabham, Bernie Ecclestone, Ron Tauranac and Gordon Murray were all involved in the Brabham team.
In 1972 the 1.8 Cosworth BDA (Belt Drive A) straight four was used in F2. The original Kent-based engine was developed in 1969 and had it's last competitive incarnation in the RS200.

dinkel

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Friday 27th October 2006
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Cheers John, I did sent Richard Dodkins the pics by mail.

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Friday 27th October 2006
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I'm looking forward to Spa'07.

A great weekend for sure AND meet all of you lot.

And the party can only get bigger!

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Friday 27th October 2006
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Cheers Jon

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Worldfamous livery on the Lotus 77 (2:31) driven by Locke. The 77 was an unusual car in two respects; firstly it was incredibly narrow with a sharp pointed front and an odd suspension configuration. The suspension had been design to allow for rapid track-side modifications to take place. It worked after a fashion although the idea was not pursued for too long and Chapman reverted to the usual coil spring arrangements for the next model the 78. This 77 was Andretti's bow


Michael Scott's March 702 (2:47). Slim body with the 1.6 Cosworth FVA and Hewland FT200 looks the bits.


Longtime enthusiast Sidney Hoole restored and prepared Andretti's Lotus 80 (2:31) and locks up here at La Source.
A bit of history: never shy to experiment, Colin Chapman replaced his championship winning Lotus 79 with a new racer that took ground effects design not one, but three steps further. Whereas the previous F1 racers relied on both ground effects and wings to provide the downforce, the new Lotus 80 was a wingless design. Another striking difference was the change in livery from the traditional black and gold of John Player Special to a green and red with Martini sponsors.

Constructed for the 1979 season, the 80 was technically very similar to its predecessors with an aluminum monocoque and the Cosworth DFV engine. Carlos Reutemann drove the thingy but Andretti preferred the 79, changed to that one half way the season but eventually left the team.


Mark Griffith's TS15-07 (2:40), originally sold new to Bob Gerard for Robert Salisbury.


Brabham BT30 (1.6 Cosworth FVA) driven by Gray (2:49). Expect to pay close to a tonne if you want something like this.


In battle with the Brabham . . .

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Saturday 28th October 2006
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Ha! Some nice info added from the man inside. thumbup Thanx!

About the 8.8: it would be huge having that car over at Spa'07 . . . bow

. . . and isn't it so you need two drivers in an hours / two hours race?

unch hint punch hint:

cool

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Sunday 29th October 2006
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An even closer zoom-in, right on the tasty bits.


The Brabham BT30 in full flight. ITG-filters, I think they sponsored the event. I saw 'em all over the place.


I think this is the same car my bro had on his wall: ex-James Hunt McLaren M26 (2:36) driven by Frank Lyons. In 1977 James Hunt won the Silverstone, Watkins Glen and Fuji Grand Prix in this very car.


Meins' ex-Alan Jones Surtees TS19 (2:28)


There's the Hesketh again.
The F1's really were in a league of their own. So blistering fast and sounding so utter gorgeous. The Cossies are something else, popping and banging at braketime and then fiercly accelerating when over the apex. Next time I hope someone brings an Alfa or Rari . . . or the best sounding 70s F1: Matra lick


Classic shot . . .

Next race:


Heya Phil, good luck mate wavey Really hope you won't loose your earplug this time . . .


The warm up lap was an excellent opportunity to check out the field. This E-type driven by Hill & Salvage (3:08) has the nice steel wheels and a favourite colour.


Earl's E looks faster (3:13). It's funny to see the behaviour of men taking La Source. Some had the ability to go wherever they wanted to go - especially the free moving Chevron BB's - and some looked frightened even. Enough tire-shrieking and moving-about was going on. I guess most where relieved they had done it again and stamped extra hard on the right one to give it some hell. Some smacked themselves almost to the walls. I saw some heavy cars or Porkers almost losing it after a perfect looking line . . . I guess you never know untill you've the car straight again.


The beefy Stangs always burnt bravely through the bent. Spectaculair and with all the Yank leaning.
Knight's Stang (3:03) was one of those very constant drivers that always turned in with confidence and gunned out with a thunderous roar: loved that!


One of the evil twin Chodosh family '58 Vettes from our neighbouring paddock: currently running a 400 CID Chevy that pushes out 545 hp and 520 lb-ft of torque. Read all about it here. They look wild but behaved like trucks in a line-up of 67 top classics. Some close racing too, times around the 3 mins from the best half of the lot.


'66 2 litre Crossle 9S run by Edwards and Shoobridge (2:59). They're made new if you fancy one. Here's still the warming up lap . . . more to come (does this ever stop?)

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Monday 30th October 2006
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klassiekerrally said:
Steel wheels? Fooled me then... They look a bit like the Dunlop alloy wheels.
Nice pics and interesting comments as usual Albert! Keep them coming.


Well sorry Wim, you know how confused I am about E's. It's more the enthusiasm than the accuracy I'm'fraid . . .

Thanx Dakkon and yes focused: that Cob gets around quit well, did you meet Cheng Lim and the crew? . . . More right now


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One of my all time fav cars:


The 70s Aston V8. Wright's DBS V8 here (3:38). A looker or what!
Equipped with the 320 brake Tadek Marek V8 (1970) it was one of the world's fastest cars of it's time: a full four seater with the potential for a genuine 160mph and a 0-60 dash in 6 secs. Styled by William Towns it had alloy wheels because the wired ones couldn't cope with the 5.3's torque. Aston built 402 of these stunners.
I wonder what specs this one has . . .


Scraggs' thingy (3:05) had the better lines though . . .

Phil (2:51) in da spotlight:


Bit of a difference passing Dowset's Imp (3:31). No way you could hear two cars here hehe Hand on the stick.


Phil's action differs from Cheng's: apart from the Cool Hand Luke's one-hand-at-da-wheel steering, his lines are fluent and razorsharp. Difficult guy to catch I can tell ya . . .


. . . Sometimes we could almost shake hands. Your new desktop Phil, ditch that big twin


Look at his hands. The great thing about open cars is you can see what's happening. The great thing about cars passing at touching distance is you can hear everything: tires, engine, box . . . All the involvement and maximum experience.


Enough, last one. The baby 6.6 announced herself violantly. It was pretty hard to tell if there were more cars close by before she appeared around the bend . . . every 3 mins or so.

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Tuesday 31st October 2006
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Relax guys . . .

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Cooke's Aston DB4 (3:07) gunning it. I love it when the drivers enjoy themselves and really race the thing, although precious and maybe even rare. It's an added bonus when the car looks gorgeous . . . and this one does.


Eike's Knobbl (2:53) is fast and sharp. It sounds the bits too. Like that helmet.


There's the GT40 from a few pages ago. At tick-over and revving up it was deafening but at speed it was allright, gentle even. Giving it full throttle down the straight the GT40's were a delight. Batt's '91 GTD 40 (3:02) runns an ex-Beemer M1 ZF mated to a 430 brake V8.


Another nice one of the Crossle. I decided at random to crop and zoom in or just leave it and show some of the loveley entourage. The blurriness and the action of the car is a bit raw maybe, but I prefer shots like these to frozen images I to often see.


Richard Abel's E (3:05). Wonderfull when a guy decides the car is for racing and not for Peb Beach or whatever.


Morgans tried hard (2:54) and gained my respect. With a thunderous sound and a glorious road-behaviour they were looking oh so good at the track. Very much in contrast with the everyday granddaddies. They're not my cuppa.


Almost the king of the hill Plus 8 (2:49) at full swing . . . braking hard, aiming, turning in.


. . . over here passing the last one: Ryan's brave Austin A35 (4:06).

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Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Indeed, the choice of an A35 for a racing car is a bit odd. An Imp or a Mini or the luverly Prinz I can understand though . . .


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Or this purple haze Anglia 105E (3:09) driven by G. Streeter, a friend of . . .


. . . Norm Ricketts and his amazing Beemer 1602 (2:59).


Storming red screamer with the 2.1 240 brake L.H. Owen Automotive fourpot.


Norm's car is a delicious racer, just the way they should be.


And yes, I still think I'll have this one over a GTA Junior . . .

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Saturday 4th November 2006
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And look at the Anglia's laptime: that's bloody quick! I wonder what mill . . .

Raincheck!


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Knight's Storming Stang is only a bit quicker than that purple Anglia at 3:03. The sound though . . . R&R!


More Yank metal . . .


. . . Lane's Camaro (3:03) in stunning red. Shame I got the pola wrong here . . .


8 sec faster Hammond & Loudoun Camaro (2:55) was one of my fav Yanks at this race. Tight, even in the wet.


Lovely Tiger (3:03) with the bonnet open. Love this one, with the driver looking angry.


Cute Giulietta (3:47) trying hard here. Bits of rust under the door . . . probably because of the slight drizzle


Lister Jaguars were my favourites at the early 80s Dutch Historic races (HARC). With my dad and my bro I used to visit Zandvoort every now and then to check out the wonderfull line-up at the straight and browse the paddocks. Dutch really know their cars but they are posers as well. Big Rari's and mint Porkers may look nice but I need to chat a bit to get to know a little this and that. You Brits are so much more sharing the sweets.
Bits of SSK here . . .

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Sunday 5th November 2006
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I don't think I've more Sabre pics. It wasn't racing on sunday. Sorry.

The twin Vettes will come by . . .

Wim, don't even think the classics are 100% classic. I saw nuff mods out in the open, and heard a few too! So what about a shiny rimm. The best thing is: the cars are based and built by period technique and look and SOUND that way.

Do I care if they are Peb Beach or if Phil Hill's ass was on a cars seat. Not really.

You're right off course that racing a close to original car is all the fun, but when you need to cross the 3 mins . . . and you want to fill a six hours race with over 120 cars lick


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Paddick's Jag Cougar (3:07) flying close by. A bit of wet on the tarmac . . .


. . . was enough for some to loose it. Here's Donnan's Hawk fourpot Stratos (3:07) flying. Nice TR4 (3:08) driven by Howe.


Henderson again. Next year our Jon will join him through La Source hehe Won't you now?


Batt's GTD did some tidy lines, even in the wet.


Cooke's DB4 in the double take with an MGB. A handfull of B's - some V8 - were steady and fast. Don't underestimate these cars.


Talking about fast . . .


Now tell me Phil, what's that with the orange visor? Is it color-therapy? I'd go funny seeing everything in the Dutch color.


Taking the lead and pasing the orange #81 Tiger.
It's a real thrill to watch all the action close by. Checking the dials: isn't that 50 mph through the bend?

Will collect some Vette stuff . . .

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Monday 6th November 2006
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I keep my word . . .

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The big Chodosh Vettes.


Quite some contrast with this tiny Imp Rally (3:31) driven by Dowsett. Huge fun though.
Must be hot, with the window down.


And one of my favs, Canning's NSU TT Prinz (3:21) screaming along here.


I'm no Porker fan but this Carrera RS (2:58) had it all.


P. Ecury's 911(3:15) demonstrated the non-easiness of Porkers curve-behaviour.


Ah, Ricketts baby again. Love it, and the sound blasted all fourpots away. A bit more power than the Chevrons . . .

Next: more Brit-stuff.

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Monday 6th November 2006
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I just got my 30 mins of Spa-footage on cd . . . Borrowed a cam from a friend.

I'll try to upload the 295 MBs . . . and share

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Tuesday 7th November 2006
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johnnymaestro said:
Thanks Dink, I'm now one step closer to buying my latest investment which will hopefully be eligable for at least one race at Spa next year!


thumbup What car is that? I'll point the cam at you next year.

BossCerbera said:
Edit the footage down into bits and upload to your YouTube account, then we can all see.


;( I don't have any editing aplications . . . On the cd were two bits. One big and one small vid.

Enjoy!

jellison said:
Aha - cool - 6 hour would bore me rigid - couple of hours tops.
LOVE the RSR Dink.


Bore?! Flames never bore . . . Cars like at these will never ever bore . . .

Go check yourself

You saved yourself by loving that Porker

BossCerbera said:
Apparently 'our' race is a 2 Hour in 2007...

Great, double the fun! I hope it's raining. I've seen that's an advantage

lak said:
Hi All. Hubby and I took part in the 6 hour race in our red and white Ford Falcon (number 18). Great photo's by the way.

Thanx, I didn't catch your car. Although we must've seen it in the last 20 mins of the race at night. Great to encounter another Spa-racer. See you next year for sure!


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Cheng in the big Cobra locking up . . .


. . . driving in a completely different style compared to Phil . . .


. . . and way more easy to catch. Phil is like quicksilver choosing his lines like a Chevron almost. Cheng is a steady driver, more predictable. Either way it provided for some nice drive-by shooting.


Another lock up, slightly out of control here. I think James 'n Wyndham's Tiger (3:59) wanted to go straight here.


The fast Tiger (2:49) driven by Beighton and Finnemore was a real beast. A smart car to look at too.


Talking 'bout nice: 100M (3:02) by Hardy and Mills was pretty and fast.


Check out how close the metal flies by. TR7 V8 (2:57) passes a big Yank here.


Number one Bryant's Mog +8 (2:46) at full song, gunning the 8 through La Source. Yup, it's the same car at the end of my vid. Zero covered.


I've done a rally in May as a navigator in a TR4. I can imagine this one has over double the power and a bit more control.


Andon's TR4 (3:10) being gorgeous.

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Thursday 9th November 2006
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Did you guys get the vid? Or did I hid it too well?

hehe

The Camaro I could touch . . . if I wanted (not).

At the straight the roaring beasts made the concrete blocks move . . . like an earthquake . . .

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Thursday 9th November 2006
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. . . and one small vid.

Big 30 mins one coming up . . . this eve.

Enjoy!

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Thursday 9th November 2006
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Damn, big vid won't get into Googlevideo . . . Anyone want to host a 89 Mb 30 mins DivX?

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Race a V8? Even hearing one and feeling one thunder by . . . is more than addictive. Cheng's Cob didn't spit flames but shook the earth.


Another mover: like a truck! Nothing elegant 'bout this Vette's racing.
Maybe that's why I like the smaller cars a bit more . . . : pussy :


This one's for Wim: Death's (!!!) Cooper S (3:11) turning in and taking a clean one . . . On the curvy bits Mini's are hard to beat I guess. Only 1275 cc's ladies and gents!


Scragg & Butler's MGB V8 GT (3:05). I prefer the MGC with the iron 6, Sebring looks.


I dunno Jon, but Andon's TR4 didn't sound that much of a screamer to me. The MGB V8 must have about the same kinda power or even a bit more and takes a gap of about 10 secs on this Triumph . . .


Smart or what . . . Love that car.


An E for a change . . . (3:08) It's funny to see such different laptimes. A big car doesn't always mean an ace time. They loose huge at corners (I saw some struggling) and can only gain at straights . . . I wonder what would be the perfect car for Spa.


Abel's E is a bit ratty and therefor tasty. A very nice guy too. When the racing was done (I believe) his wife made us some bread, cheese and wine to share. Cheers!

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Thursday 9th November 2006
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I take my words back, I'm just impatient! After 3 hours of upload the 25 mins 89 mb vid can be seen here.

Enjoy! and yes, the black ratty Civic is my luverly, after 3 hours of cruising. First shot is just to check out the cam. After that I rang Phil and a few mins later we flew away chasing the Cobra in the Spada, as seen on page one.

Clip is just a non-edit long shot. The early sundaymorning two-hour-race practise session lined up in front of the track entrance and was a nice walk by. Especially when the engines fired up. The bad black vette again.