RE: Peugeot 207 GT THP 150

[MoJocvh]

Polarbert said:

chrisbr68 said:

Polarbert said:

chrisbr68 said:

Err, I must be missing something, I dont understand why not just get a diesel instead? Or is this a petrol replacement for diesel?

Edited by chrisbr68 on Monday 11th December 14:32

Because its a diesel. Thats why.

article said:

[And, unusually for a relatively small engine (1598cc) we’re talking petrol here, not diesel.

I know that, I meant because it is a diesel people wouldn't buy it. Diesels are shite.

Here we go again......

MoJo

[ferrari_fan99]

Personally, i dont think it looks particularly sporting at all from the outside, the engine stats leave me feeling a little cold and that interior....

I think since the 205, Peugeot have lost their way with hot hatches. I think as the writer of the above article wrote "Its more like a warm hatch", i think i completly agree with that statement. There are much more exciting cars on the market for my money.

[moleamol]

ferrari_fan99 said:

I think since the 205, Peugeot have lost their way with hot hatches. I think as the writer of the above article wrote "Its more like a warm hatch", i think i completly agree with that statement. There are much more exciting cars on the market for my money.

I assume you've never driven a 106 or 306 Rallye then? Both are hugely entertaining. My first car was a 205 and the 106 Rallye I had was the closest thing to the 205 experience.

[Mr Whippy]

But with each successive generation the focus is dulled.

The 205's closest spiritual successor is the 106 Gti really. Similar peak power, similar weights, very nice for track work with simple mods.

306 is a much bigger car really, and this 207 is even BIGGER again, so they are more about day to day than owning to drive alone...

I think it'll be a hot hatch still, but it depends what you want from your driving. Pure driving pleasure, or a fine day to day car that is also quite brisk and will thrill a little bit when you want it to. But you can't get both.
It's a sliding scale, and as time goes by the slider moves towards the day to day business it seems, with only people like Renault offering things like the Cup and Trophy Clio's that are anywhere near what the 205 Gti did (though their latest Clio is bigger and weighs more, so I wonder where the focussed version will end up, still nowhere near the Trophy or Cup172 I doubt)

Lets just hope Peugeot sell a drivers Gti, not a badge Gti, and make the 207 both ligher, naturally aspirated and focussed

Dave

[Fidd]

One ugly car !

[pbirkett]

Mr Whippy said:

Lets just hope Peugeot sell a drivers Gti, not a badge Gti, and make the 207 both ligher, naturally aspirated and focussed

Its not going to happen.

Modern hot hatches leave me cold. They are all overweight, with too much refinement and not enough involvement. Often, they are just too expensive as well. I've just got out of my clio 182 after a rapid drive out, and i can honestly say i was shaking and sweating with the adrenaline, such was the thrill of this drive out. But having driven several modern hot hatches, most just dont do it for me.

[ferrari_fan99]

moleamol said:

ferrari_fan99 said:

I think since the 205, Peugeot have lost their way with hot hatches. I think as the writer of the above article wrote "Its more like a warm hatch", i think i completly agree with that statement. There are much more exciting cars on the market for my money.

I assume you've never driven a 106 or 306 Rallye then? Both are hugely entertaining. My first car was a 205 and the 106 Rallye I had was the closest thing to the 205 experience.

Good point, i didn't think of the Rallye, never driven it but my cousin had one, apparantly a good car. I suppose i was using the as a benchmark in a sense, and anyway it doesn't matter where you draw the line, as long as it is before the 106 because they aren't brilliant anymore. Thats my opinion anyway.

[MoJocvh]

ferrari_fan99 said:

moleamol said:

ferrari_fan99 said:

I think since the 205, Peugeot have lost their way with hot hatches. I think as the writer of the above article wrote "Its more like a warm hatch", i think i completly agree with that statement. There are much more exciting cars on the market for my money.

I assume you've never driven a 106 or 306 Rallye then? Both are hugely entertaining. My first car was a 205 and the 106 Rallye I had was the closest thing to the 205 experience.

Good point, i didn't think of the Rallye, never driven it but my cousin had one, apparantly a good car. I suppose i was using the as a benchmark in a sense, and anyway it doesn't matter where you draw the line, as long as it is before the 106 because they aren't brilliant anymore. Thats my opinion anyway.

Most exciting hot hatch I've driven in years was a fabia VRS 5 door oilburner never mind the tourque the suspension set up was SUPERB (oops)

MoJo

[astrsxi77]

Ugly on a stick, bloated beyond all reason. I ING HATE NEW CARS!!!!
Jesus Christ, just stick a Diesel in it hey presto; the modern take on the "hot-hatch."

Needs the tourque to pull 1400kg of A-Pillars around...

FFFFFFUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK, makes me furious.....