RE: Melling's Hellcat has surfaced

[Oddball RS]

When does he sign the styling buck off?

[bennno]

i dont know, the speed six was genius

bennno

[mc_blue]

Great name though! :thumbsup:

[andynormancx]

BSC said:

"the car is said to reach 60mph from rest in 2.6 seconds.."

Not possible with RWD only despite all the power and torque. Grip will be missing. Just my 2p.

Perfectly possible, the 720 hp Ultima GTR managed that on its record 0-100-0 run. Admittedly it is mid engined, which probably helps a bit with the traction, but 2.6 seconds with RWD is possible.

[FourWheelDrift]

le man said:

Nothing this man designed ever worked.

So speaks the voice of ignorance. His F1 engines worked and his TVR engines worked, until TVR's self professed experts fiddled with them.

[designer]

Yeah, but an Elise would have it in the corners.

[zooooom]

To Mr BHP Al Melling
V10 Quad Turbo
1175 bhp
0-60 2.6 seconds
Terminal Velocity 275 mph
PLUS ITS BRITISH
Its about time the brits gave the italian super car league a good arse whoooping.
Quick some one get in touch with Clarkson and get it on the new series of top gear for the stig to drive.

Edited by zooooom on Tuesday 30th January 15:04

[skinnyboy]

might need some help filling this in

[havoc]

zooooom said:

To Mr BHP Al Melling

Wait until it's built and works before congratulating him.

I've got a design for a quad-turbo V16 which will produce 1,600bhp and 1,500lb-ft of torque. I just need £20m to get the programme off the ground!

Where's my bow and congratulations?

[zooooom]

le man said:

Nothing this man designed ever worked.

You,d be surprised at what he has made work and world betters they are too.

[hollowpockets]

wonder if melling can get in it?lol

why would he want his name stamped on something so fugly? i wouldnt

Edited by hollowpockets on Tuesday 30th January 15:12

[andyps]

le man said:

Nothing this man designed ever worked.

I take it you have seen the complete list - it is somewhat longer than TVR engines.

Al Melling has advised and designed engines for a large number of the Worlds motor manufacturers, unfortunately he can't tell anyone much about it as he has confidentiality agreements with just about everyone of them. From what I understand his clients cover the globe, so speaking totally theoretically with no knowledge of specific customers, could you image Honda or Toyota, for example, saying "of course, our new engine was designed and developed by a bloke from Rochdale" in their PR material? As this would undermine their own credentials they get Al to do the work, and he is happy to take no credit for it, but knows his reputation will enable him to continue in business for may more years to come.

Whilst I am a little short of £200k to be placing an order, if I was in a different situation I would be very interested. Well done Mr Melling

[zooooom]

havoc said:

zooooom said:

To Mr BHP Al Melling

Wait until it's built and works before congratulating him.

I've got a design for a quad-turbo V16 which will produce 1,600bhp and 1,500lb-ft of torque. I just need £20m to get the programme off the ground!

Where's my bow and congratulations?

Oh yeee of little faith.
And you driving around in a car with one of his engine in.
You soon will be eating humble pie me thinks.

[sprinter885]

Has not the name Ferrari also been linked to Al Melling?

[Road_Terrorist]

Wait a minute how does a V10 with FOUR turbos work? 10 divided by four doesn't go evenly.

Surely there would be a lop sidedness somewhere? I mean such setups can work, like budget turbo setups on V engines with a single bank turbo, but it's not exactly ideal or optimal for high performance, and it's not like this has been done for penny pinching?

I would have thought a couple of turbos would be fine for engine response, it's a six litre engine after all, so shouldn't exactly be lacking in off boost torque, even with low compression.

I suppose they could route all headers through a single point with two common outlets, but again this seems needlessly complex, unless it is a fancy sequential twin turbo each side, which would make a bit more sense.

Otherwise I guess they could be running twin turbos in series rather than parallel, but I can't see how this would possibly benefit a road car?

Anyone got any engine bay pics? I'm quite curious now.

here are some more pics of the exterior which look a bit better than that pic
www.autoblog.com/photos/melling-hellcat/

[sprinter885]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Yes. I believe Enzo Ferrari once went to a Modena fancy dress party dressed as Al Melling. Unfortunately security mistook him for an old tramp and he was turfed out.

Is this what you were alluding to?

U naughty little Rascal you..!! Was he taking the Pissa ?

[trenchtown]

kingb said:

wow
makes a veyron with 1001bhp seem silly for 800k
1200bmp for 200k bargain

i like the looks too but i recon they can be cleaned up a bit

I think they're two entirely different concepts. The Veyron is the pinnacle of automotive engineering in almost every sense, whereas the smelly Hellcat goes insanely fast.

You musn't forget that the Veyron was developed by the Volkswagen group and they invested a sick amount of money. Have you ever noticed how reviewers of supercars like twin turbo Gallardos or Koenigseggggggs always complain that the car looses control at superspeeds? That is the difference between having limitless supply of R&D money and being a fatcat who made a lot of dosh and now wanting to make a supercar of your own.

And I agree with some of the posts... it IS kinda fugly... (The Hellcat that is).

[Lutz]

So let's see: someone takes a viper engine, slaps on a quad turbos, and clads it in a body that would have driven tears to japanese designers in their darkest hours... and hey, zingo, the new english supercar! Give me a cerby with all its faults, at least it looks outrageous an will never be mixed up with a ZX280....

[speedyellow]

Road_Terrorist said:

Wait a minute how does a V10 with FOUR turbos work? 10 divided by four doesn't go evenly

Sequential turbo's like the Porsche 959 or less glamorous, a 535d BMW! Will give better response across the rev range.

[Horse_Apple]

Road_Terrorist said:

Wait a minute how does a V10 with FOUR turbos work? 10 divided by four doesn't go evenly.

Surely there would be a lop sidedness somewhere? I mean such setups can work, like budget turbo setups on V engines with a single bank turbo, but it's not exactly ideal or optimal for high performance, and it's not like this has been done for penny pinching?

I would have thought a couple of turbos would be fine for engine response, it's a six litre engine after all, so shouldn't exactly be lacking in off boost torque, even with low compression.

I suppose they could route all headers through a single point with two common outlets, but again this seems needlessly complex, unless it is a fancy sequential twin turbo each side, which would make a bit more sense.

Otherwise I guess they could be running twin turbos in series rather than parallel, but I can't see how this would possibly benefit a road car?

Anyone got any engine bay pics? I'm quite curious now.

here are some more pics of the exterior which look a bit better than that pic
www.autoblog.com/photos/melling-hellcat/

2 for the engine and one for each seat to speed up the clearance of the debris that is going to accumulate.