[dudleybloke]

no furry dice yet then?

[MrDarkBlack]

flemke said:

Globs said:

MrDarkBlack said:

Do you know why the wheels are black?

Because Flemke loves black wheels - yes, I've disagreed with him before on this

MrDarkBlack said:

And why the hubs are so coloured?

The hubs look like silver to me - although that could just be the brake discs!
Because they are steel? Good choice.

Sorry, but what is meant by "hubs"? There are no hubs visible in any of these images or, indeed, unless the wheel is removed.

I said "hubs" but meant wheel nuts...but I think Globs new that.. I blame the black beverage popular in Ireland.

[Guyr]

flemke said:

I've nothing against the photos you recommend, but they're artworks that happen to have cars as a focal point. They're not about the cars.
IMO, the best photography for this purpose is the clinical, "mug-shot" kind - utterly neutral setting, no tricks of the light, just showing us what's there.

Thats a fair viewpoint.

I personally like both ends of the spectrum, in that I have some framed technical drawings of Porsche engines for example, as well as picture/posters of my cars that are simple accurate photos from trackdays etc. That said I also like motor artworks, in particular I am a fan of Tim Layzell and have some of his originals.

[Ronin59]

I think that the blue-Alfa colour looks fantastic. I actually think it works better than the colour of the George Harrison car. Im surprised that Im saying that as I always thought that the Harrison car was probably the best looking F1 out there.

[1]

flemke said:

I'm curious -what do you mean by "contradiction"?

You mention certain features are a nod to the teams racing heritage and then slap a ridiculous squiggle on the bonnet.

IMO its either or, either you respect its heritage and keep it original, or do as you please. If you do as you please and just create something you like then its a little disingenuous to start telling people you couldn't possible change the wheel nuts because it would "contradict its pragmatic origin".

To my eye it looks like you've simply had to much time to consider things and have come up with a series of design elements that simply don't gel. But each to their own, great to see someone enjoying such a fantastic car.

[_dobbo_]

Globs said:

Frankly the wheel nut colour looks terrible, very chavvy and have no place on an F1

I love your post, you've tried to come across as educated, insightful and to give the impression you are some sort of aesthete - and you're so close!

Sadly you have undermined it all with your massively underinformed comment about the wheel nuts. Hey ho, keep trying!

[35secToNuvolari]

From the pics, it doesn't seem like the white line tapers much? True?

Edit: Just saw the vid. I see the white line tapers some.

The color is wonderful. I think the dark wheels work better with the darker color. For some reason a dark colored F1 with black wheels reminds me of those old black leather boxing shoes. Both have that beautiful tapered nose, are dark, sporting, light weight, and slightly menacing.

When I saw the interior, I thought you were going for something like this:



The light blue might be too grey for your tastes, though.

Thanks for taking the time to do the pics and video. It's a privilege to see your project.

Edited by 35secToNuvolari on Saturday 17th September 16:33

[_dobbo_]

_dobbo_ said:

Globs said:

Frankly the wheel nut colour looks terrible, very chavvy and have no place on an F1

I love your post, you've tried to come across as educated, insightful and to give the impression you are some sort of aesthete - and you're so close!

Sadly you have undermined it all with your massively underinformed comment about the wheel nuts. Hey ho, keep trying!

Just read this back, apologies I was clearly in a bad mood earlier.

[Vmaxx Nut]

Flemke a truly stunning car now its back to full health love all the details i wanted to ask how many changes have you made on the cabin from how GM left it ?

[dinkel]

Blues that work on a specific car, IMO:

Ecurie Ecosse blue:

1958 Tojeiro-Jaguar Sports Racer

Fcar blue:
http://aussieexotics.com/drivers/displayimage-1278...
599


365 GTB


330 GTC


250 GTO

[Monty Zoomer]

I actually like the squiggle, I didn't comment earlier because it wasn't that easy to see but it shows up well on the detailing forum:



The side-stripe looks OK-ish to me and probably better in reality than it does in the pictures, I'm not really sure, and I can understand what Flemke is saying about the interior. It's a nice idea but it hasn't worked that well on a car as good as this.

Keep up the good work Flemke, ignore all the criticism... but I know you will anyway

Edited by Monty Zoomer on Saturday 17th September 20:36

[RobboC]

Where's the link to the vid? This red wine isn't helping me find it....

[Digger]

RobboC said:

Where's the link to the vid? This red wine isn't helping me find it....

As far as I'm aware we have some teaser stills from the vid. I think they're on one of Schmee's above posts. I think. Hopefully vid to come?!

[GFWilliams]

Guyr said:

flemke said:

I've nothing against the photos you recommend, but they're artworks that happen to have cars as a focal point. They're not about the cars.
IMO, the best photography for this purpose is the clinical, "mug-shot" kind - utterly neutral setting, no tricks of the light, just showing us what's there.

Thats a fair viewpoint.

I personally like both ends of the spectrum, in that I have some framed technical drawings of Porsche engines for example, as well as picture/posters of my cars that are simple accurate photos from trackdays etc. That said I also like motor artworks, in particular I am a fan of Tim Layzell and have some of his originals.

I try and shoot both types of photography (for example I've been shooting at Goodwood all weekend which I have no control over anything) but much prefer photography as an art form. Can respect your opinion though Flemke

Was having a look at some of Tim's work today at the Revival. He's a very very very talented man!!

[Peloton25]

Digger said:

As far as I'm aware we have some teaser stills from the vid. I think they're on one of Schmee's above posts. I think. Hopefully vid to come?!

The vid is up on YouTube - I am guessing certain PH.com policies prevent Shmee from linking to it himself?

Find it here

>8^)
ER

[chris333]

looks absolutely stunning! Hopefully the wait has been worth it!

[Globs]

dinkel said:

Blues that work on a specific car, IMO:

Ecurie Ecosse blue:

1958 Tojeiro-Jaguar Sports Racer

Fcar blue:
http://aussieexotics.com/drivers/displayimage-1278...
599


365 GTB


330 GTC


250 GTO

I can spot one thing in common on all of those beautiful cars: silver wheels

Personally I think the blue body colour that Flemke eventually went for (and I mean eventually!) is spot on. Look at the photos of the car in the workshop - and with the henry hoover. It's a great colour even there!

[flemke]

inkiboo said:

flemke said:

dan5oclocksmith said:

Shmee said:

Forgot I took these on my phone:

E36 wiper stalk?

I thought the stalks were out of the old 8-series.

Nope, the E31 stalk looks like this:



It is 100% BMW, just trying to work out which one.

Funny, that.

Because the stalks are pretty agricultural, for awhile I looked at making new ones.
To ease the task, I asked McLaren for the spec of the originals. They told me "8-series". I then got a set from the 8-series and disassembled them, to understand what would be necessary for them to look decent whilst retaining all functionality. Eventually, I abandoned the project, under the heading, "Life is too short".
However, I never actually compared the 8-series pieces that I had bought with what was sitting in the car all along.

[flemke]

Guyr said:

flemke said:

I've nothing against the photos you recommend, but they're artworks that happen to have cars as a focal point. They're not about the cars.
IMO, the best photography for this purpose is the clinical, "mug-shot" kind - utterly neutral setting, no tricks of the light, just showing us what's there.

Thats a fair viewpoint.

I personally like both ends of the spectrum, in that I have some framed technical drawings of Porsche engines for example, as well as picture/posters of my cars that are simple accurate photos from trackdays etc. That said I also like motor artworks, in particular I am a fan of Tim Layzell and have some of his originals.

Yes TL (who at least used to be a PHer) does good work.

[flemke]

Ronin59 said:

I think that the blue-Alfa colour looks fantastic. I actually think it works better than the colour of the George Harrison car. Im surprised that Im saying that as I always thought that the Harrison car was probably the best looking F1 out there.

That would be the car with the black wheels?