RE: Fingerprint Immobiliser
Thursday 23rd August 2007
Whilst surfing the web we came across this little gadget – the ATRD M10 fingerprint scanner, after keyless entry I guess this development was inevitable.
The system can store up to ten prints and there is even a ‘valet mode’ so you can turn it off when the car is being cleaned/maintained by someone not on your list of ten special people.
Fingerprint Immobiliser
Go all superspy and get fingerprint recognition for your car
When you get into your car, pop the key in the ignition and twist until the electrics begin to work. Then place your finger on the scanner and wait for the green LED to tell you that you’re allowed to use the car. If you're not recognised the car won't start.
The system itself uses wireless modules within the car to immobilise it – making the whole system nigh on impossible to find and remove if you don’t know what you’re looking for.
There are different modules available for the M10, making it compatible with any alarm or immobiliser system.
Looking at the pictures it doesn't look neat enough to be production ready, but as ideas go, it's not a bad one.....not sure what happens if it goes wrong though.
Discussion
GOY, you're sacked! 
Doubt it can tell the difference between an attached or severed finger.
Someone willing to steal a car probably also won't be too concerned about chopping off someones finger. I would much rather give someone my keys than my finger! Somehow I doubt said thief is going to give you the time / allow you to adjust the settings to valet mode.
Someone willing to steal a car probably also won't be too concerned about chopping off someones finger. I would much rather give someone my keys than my finger! Somehow I doubt said thief is going to give you the time / allow you to adjust the settings to valet mode.
I think I saw a Mythbusters (great show!) episode where they were confronted with the challenge of "cracking" the most expensive fingerprint-encoded home door-lock on the market. The ease with which they managed to fool an IBM laptop fingerprint detector was pretty scary, yet the door itself took even less effort.
Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...
Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...
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I wouldn't be too tempted - I have keyless entry with fingerprint recognition on my A8 (it just sets the car up - memory seats radio station etc) so even if it doesn't recognise you, you can start the car - which is a good job as it probably only reads correctly first time about 70% of the time - the rest of the time you either give up or have to try repeatedly to get it to recognise you.
I'm rather attached to my fingers and I'd prefer they stay attached to me.
As it seems that the pro car thieves belong to international gangs after high value cars I don't think they are going to be squeamish about hacking off a few fingers or hands. Especially if they've gone to the trouble of breaking in and taking the keys only to find they need a finger print as well. I think they are going to be a bit pissed off when they come back in for the finger.
As it seems that the pro car thieves belong to international gangs after high value cars I don't think they are going to be squeamish about hacking off a few fingers or hands. Especially if they've gone to the trouble of breaking in and taking the keys only to find they need a finger print as well. I think they are going to be a bit pissed off when they come back in for the finger.
Dave200 said:
I think I saw a Mythbusters (great show!) episode where they were confronted with the challenge of "cracking" the most expensive fingerprint-encoded home door-lock on the market. The ease with which they managed to fool an IBM laptop fingerprint detector was pretty scary, yet the door itself took even less effort.
Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...
I saw that one too. They simply lifted the finger print of an authorised user from a glass and scanned it into a computer. Then printed it off onto a blank bit of paper which they stuck onto the end of one of their fingers. Then put their finger onto the scanner and voila, the door opened! Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...
What about in winter when I'm wearing gloves?
Nice idea, but I think they need to tweak it a little to simultaneously take a tiny sweat sample from the figer and analyse alcohol content at the same time, thus preventing drink driving then I'll be more impressed....if it works the government may make it a requirement in all cars...oooh get a patent on that one quickly! Now how to stop your sober mate from placing his finger on the sensor, well if he's sober and getting in a car with a drunk at the wheel he deserves everything he gets surely?
Nice idea, but I think they need to tweak it a little to simultaneously take a tiny sweat sample from the figer and analyse alcohol content at the same time, thus preventing drink driving then I'll be more impressed....if it works the government may make it a requirement in all cars...oooh get a patent on that one quickly! Now how to stop your sober mate from placing his finger on the sensor, well if he's sober and getting in a car with a drunk at the wheel he deserves everything he gets surely?
You know when the system goes '2001: A Space Odyssey' on you, you are going to regret the day you thought of putting it in your pride and joy!!!
Do you think they allowed memory for 10 prints so that you can store all your prints on the system??? For when you cut your index, got ink on your middle finger, dirt on your ring finger after changing your tyre...
Do you think they allowed memory for 10 prints so that you can store all your prints on the system??? For when you cut your index, got ink on your middle finger, dirt on your ring finger after changing your tyre...
Edited by j-j on Thursday 23 August 16:37
Dave200 said:
I think I saw a Mythbusters (great show!) episode where they were confronted with the challenge of "cracking" the most expensive fingerprint-encoded home door-lock on the market. The ease with which they managed to fool an IBM laptop fingerprint detector was pretty scary, yet the door itself took even less effort.
Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...
Two words - gummy bear. Be aware - Just because someone tells you that something is secure, doesn't necessarily mean that it is...
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