RE: BMW 135i First Drive

[rallycross]

This could have been such a hoot instead BMW have created a MONGREL that is;

ugly
over weight (1500 kg !!)
and has no lsd fitted
All for £30k!

Who would be daft enough to order one of these mongrels?

[Marki]

vrooom said:

Ohh stop with that it got boring on the last thread

[baSkey]

i'm still not clear..will there be a 135i hatch?

[dinkel]

baSkey said:

i'm still not clear..will there be a 135i hatch?

It's indeed the most overdesigned piece of k**it!

But then, you don't HAVE to buy one. I'm sure it'll drive like a dream . . .

[DoctorFan]

It seems that BMW is, to me, trying to plug every bleedin' hole in its range with dull cars. The 1 series is ok (though why you'd want to spend 20 grand on a 'family hatchback' that has its rear boot full of rear differential just for the ultimate driving experience is beyond me) but I think this model is a bit of an after thought. And 300bhp from a twin turbo'd 3 litre 6 cylinder engine? How lazy! It's not pretty enough and its had too heavy and irritatingly they always seem to over price the extra's and the base gadgets you get are pants. A waste of money IMHO.

[waynepixel]

I really love the idea for this car, but when you start to look at the figures involved

2,979cc twin turbo straight ‘six’

1,560kg

£36K

It all goes a bit pear shaped if you ask me. If the car was in the price bracket of say a Hot hatch 22-26K, it could be a real winner.

For £36K you can get allot of nice metal, new, and second hand.

Edited by waynepixel on Monday 5th November 15:10

Edited by waynepixel on Monday 5th November 15:11

Edited by waynepixel on Monday 5th November 15:23

[Marki]

I am still not sure which to go for 320d Coupe or 123d coupe

[NiallOswald]

Let's hope they make that Tii concept reality then...

[Marki]

NiallOswald said:

Let's hope they make that Tii concept reality then...

I think they will , in the 1 coupe brochure they feature the old 2002
Tii

[RDE]

Fittster said:

What advantage does this car have over a nearly new Z4C?

Edited by Fittster on Monday 5th November 13:31

I don't think it is even in the same league. The Z4MC looks dynamite in my opinion, and apart from being a bit twitchy, is reported to be a great car to drive. I want one. In white. Now.

[dinkel]

Marki said:

. . . in the 1 coupe brochure they feature the old 2002
Tii

That's blasphemy!!!

Just look at being fugly.

[RobCrezz]

Why are you all complaining about the extra weight these cars are putting on?

BMW arent just sticking lumps of lead everywhere, the extra weight is obviously nessesary, either for safety or other kit.

Deal with it, if you want a light car, get a caterham.

[DrGP]

Is this going to be another Caymen/911? Could be better than the 3 series but they dare not put in the V8 and let the M boys make it over lest it blows the flagship M3 away. Non-optimised engineering. what an arse that must be for the guys in their R&D areas.

[Marki]

dinkel said:

Marki said:

. . . in the 1 coupe brochure they feature the old 2002
Tii

That's blasphemy!!!

Just look at being fugly.

You have to move with the times old timer

[mackie1]

DoctorFan said:

And 300bhp from a twin turbo'd 3 litre 6 cylinder engine? How lazy!

How is that lazy? It only runs small turbos with 0.4 bar of boost.

[Dr S]

[quote=Wanta996(Gotta)] In other words, this is a ‘small’ coupe that weighs practically as much as a ‘medium’ coupe, which makes you start to wonder what the point of having a ‘small’ coupe is in the first place.

Enough said - What type/age of buyer is BMW attempting t attract to this car? I cant personally think of any performance car owners i know that would consider this car?? BMWs marketing department should all get sacked for actually agreeing to this "thing".

P.S.The 1 series convertible is also a complete joke.
[/quote]

2nded. It's an utterly useless car.

There is still the illusion today that a small car is light. As with this Beemer, however, they are getting near SUV-type weight figures. Look at the 3 series convertible at 1.8 tonnes...

[130R]

RobCrezz said:

Why are you all complaining about the extra weight these cars are putting on?

Because this is supposed to be a "performance" car and anyone that knows the first thing about cars knows that weight is the single worst thing you can add to a car performance wise.

This thing weighs 1,560kg and there is absolutely no reason this car should be that heavy. It is a joke.

[Agoogy]

So its heavy
pretty dull to drive
expensive
and not wholly attractive (I'm being generous to accommodate those that blindly believe that it's 'individual')

hmmm a car created to be a rare classic in time then...


Makes me want to weep, for years I've been watching 2nd hand BMW prices thinking one day I'll be in the market for something really nice.
Now my market place is littered with Bangle mash-ups and over weight wheel and colour specific oddities...

[cvegas]

A real wheel drive car that is no fun to drive. £30k to £36k and no LSD. BMW must think its customers are all mugs.

[SJobson]

waynepixel said:

2,979cc twin turbo straight ‘six’

1,560kg

£36K

Sounds like the last Toyota Supra, which was effectively a Porsche 928 competitor.