RE: Project Retirement Rocket PART 2.
Discussion
Tonto said:
joz8968 said:
angus54 said:
...How did you work out those figs as a matter of interest?...
Well, for a start, given the kerb weight, power and driven wheels, I figured the 0-60 would be the high to mid 5s anyway... but... see the below link!...http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp
joz8968 said:
0 - 100 mph... c. 13.9 sec
Drag Strip Quarter Mile... c. 13.7 sec
Drag Strip Terminal Speed... c. 102 mph
I personally think these are more unrealistic, remember this car is more aerodynamic travelling in reverse.Drag Strip Quarter Mile... c. 13.7 sec
Drag Strip Terminal Speed... c. 102 mph
Oh an to the guy writing the report, how much of the work are you doing yourself?
I modded an 827 Vitesse many years ago.....
I tried to get the ECU remapped at Superchips and BBR but neither of them could decipher it! (this was sometime in the early 90's though).
I had the cams reprofiled, heads flowed, tubular manifolds made and the hydraulic followers converted to solid and it pulled to the rev-limiter in top in no time at all.....it didn't tick over very well though (hence trying to get the ECU remapped). If you take out the inlet butterfly plate (switches from long to short inlet tracts for top end power) you get a better top end because it completely removes the restriction, but less low down torque.
Did you see the video of Tony Pond averaging over 100mph round the IOM TT Circuit in a lightly modified (different exhaust & slicks) 827 Vitesse? Awesome, very quick.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnKyMgry9iQ
Its a great engine with a really nice exhaust note (like a Stratos/Ferrari Dino) and mine did nearly 200k miles before I decided to get rid of the car. In my opinion it was very underrated, its only problem was a floppy shell which was easily cured with a weld in cage. Bigger brakes, anti-roll bar and stiffer springs transformed it and it lapped Mallory Park quickly enough to embarrass some seriously exotic machinery. Happy days.
I tried to get the ECU remapped at Superchips and BBR but neither of them could decipher it! (this was sometime in the early 90's though).
I had the cams reprofiled, heads flowed, tubular manifolds made and the hydraulic followers converted to solid and it pulled to the rev-limiter in top in no time at all.....it didn't tick over very well though (hence trying to get the ECU remapped). If you take out the inlet butterfly plate (switches from long to short inlet tracts for top end power) you get a better top end because it completely removes the restriction, but less low down torque.
Did you see the video of Tony Pond averaging over 100mph round the IOM TT Circuit in a lightly modified (different exhaust & slicks) 827 Vitesse? Awesome, very quick.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnKyMgry9iQ
Its a great engine with a really nice exhaust note (like a Stratos/Ferrari Dino) and mine did nearly 200k miles before I decided to get rid of the car. In my opinion it was very underrated, its only problem was a floppy shell which was easily cured with a weld in cage. Bigger brakes, anti-roll bar and stiffer springs transformed it and it lapped Mallory Park quickly enough to embarrass some seriously exotic machinery. Happy days.
GTMSpyder said:
I modded an 827 Vitesse many years ago.....
I tried to get the ECU remapped at Superchips and BBR but neither of them could decipher it! (this was sometime in the early 90's though).
I had the cams reprofiled, heads flowed, tubular manifolds made and the hydraulic followers converted to solid and it pulled to the rev-limiter in top in no time at all.....it didn't tick over very well though (hence trying to get the ECU remapped). If you take out the inlet butterfly plate (switches from long to short inlet tracts for top end power) you get a better top end because it completely removes the restriction, but less low down torque.
Did you see the video of Tony Pond averaging over 100mph round the IOM TT Circuit in a lightly modified (different exhaust & slicks) 827 Vitesse? Awesome, very quick.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnKyMgry9iQ
Its a great engine with a really nice exhaust note (like a Stratos/Ferrari Dino) and mine did nearly 200k miles before I decided to get rid of the car. In my opinion it was very underrated, its only problem was a floppy shell which was easily cured with a weld in cage. Bigger brakes, anti-roll bar and stiffer springs transformed it and it lapped Mallory Park quickly enough to embarrass some seriously exotic machinery. Happy days.
GTM, who did the cams for you???I tried to get the ECU remapped at Superchips and BBR but neither of them could decipher it! (this was sometime in the early 90's though).
I had the cams reprofiled, heads flowed, tubular manifolds made and the hydraulic followers converted to solid and it pulled to the rev-limiter in top in no time at all.....it didn't tick over very well though (hence trying to get the ECU remapped). If you take out the inlet butterfly plate (switches from long to short inlet tracts for top end power) you get a better top end because it completely removes the restriction, but less low down torque.
Did you see the video of Tony Pond averaging over 100mph round the IOM TT Circuit in a lightly modified (different exhaust & slicks) 827 Vitesse? Awesome, very quick.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnKyMgry9iQ
Its a great engine with a really nice exhaust note (like a Stratos/Ferrari Dino) and mine did nearly 200k miles before I decided to get rid of the car. In my opinion it was very underrated, its only problem was a floppy shell which was easily cured with a weld in cage. Bigger brakes, anti-roll bar and stiffer springs transformed it and it lapped Mallory Park quickly enough to embarrass some seriously exotic machinery. Happy days.
It was so long ago I can't remember the name of the company now - they were based in Nantwich and I remember they did other work on rotaries but I can't find any links to them now so maybe they have disappeared. The owner had put one in a Dolly Sprint he rallied (because it was lighter and more reliable than the Triumph engine).
Piper will reprofile a set of cams for you. I also had to change to solid cam followers and I can't remember how they did that.
Why don't you put some bike carbs on it and junk all the injection and inlet gubbins....?
Piper will reprofile a set of cams for you. I also had to change to solid cam followers and I can't remember how they did that.
Why don't you put some bike carbs on it and junk all the injection and inlet gubbins....?
pugmanic said:
As for wheels and brakes - what about the Princess? I know that Capri owners love the front calpiers from the Princess, and I would assume (don't actually know) they have slightly larger width wheels... That way it sticks with the BL theme at least and you could also use Granny spec BL hub caps 
The wheels from a Leyland Maxi are, like those on the Prinny, 14". However, they are almost exactly the same to look at as the 13" Allegro steelies. And they share the Allegro/Princess/Rover 800 PCD.
If I were thinking about bigger wheels for an Allegro, these would be the ones I'd use.
RichardR said:
Nice ice!
I thought you'd at least get a push-button Radiomobile MW/LW unit in there.
At least the speaker grill's already in place ready for the upgrade!
Where has all the luxury gone from modern cars? This is more like it. I take it the climate control, stability management, ipod connection etc are all hidden? I thought you'd at least get a push-button Radiomobile MW/LW unit in there.
At least the speaker grill's already in place ready for the upgrade!
I remember seeing one of the US shows (Overhaulin', American Hotrod etc), can't remember which one, where they took a 1968 Camaro SS which had a blown engine.
They then totally re-engineered it so it had the engine, drivetrain, steering, suspension, electronics etc from a crashed Corvette Z06 (C6 shape). Outside the only differences were the wheels, which were 18" Torque Thrust-D wheels (very original looking) to house the bigger discs, and the bigger dia. exhaust.
Inside everything was totally standard looking, but with new dials and a Momo steering wheel. It even had the original 8-track in the dash. But in the glovebox was a headunit with ipod connection, and under a flip-up bit on the dash were the controls for the new climate system, traction control etc etc.
It looked standard, but was basically a redodied 2006 Corvette Z06.
Awesome.
I'll try and hunt it down to find some pics...
They then totally re-engineered it so it had the engine, drivetrain, steering, suspension, electronics etc from a crashed Corvette Z06 (C6 shape). Outside the only differences were the wheels, which were 18" Torque Thrust-D wheels (very original looking) to house the bigger discs, and the bigger dia. exhaust.
Inside everything was totally standard looking, but with new dials and a Momo steering wheel. It even had the original 8-track in the dash. But in the glovebox was a headunit with ipod connection, and under a flip-up bit on the dash were the controls for the new climate system, traction control etc etc.
It looked standard, but was basically a redodied 2006 Corvette Z06.
Awesome.
I'll try and hunt it down to find some pics...
annodomini2 said:
Tonto said:
joz8968 said:
angus54 said:
...How did you work out those figs as a matter of interest?...
Well, for a start, given the kerb weight, power and driven wheels, I figured the 0-60 would be the high to mid 5s anyway... but... see the below link!...http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp
joz8968 said:
0 - 100 mph... c. 13.9 sec
Drag Strip Quarter Mile... c. 13.7 sec
Drag Strip Terminal Speed... c. 102 mph
I personally think these are more unrealistic, remember this car is more aerodynamic travelling in reverse.Drag Strip Quarter Mile... c. 13.7 sec
Drag Strip Terminal Speed... c. 102 mph
Oh an to the guy writing the report, how much of the work are you doing yourself?
Johnny quoted 840kg from the Allegro manual, but this obviously wasn't with a V6 in it, springs instead of Hydragas and suitable chassis strengthening. Until we know the actual weight after the mods any performance stats are a stab in the dark.
Nice work by the way but I am not sure I could be arsed.
Hello fellas. Right, well the Retirement Rocket is making progress and funnily enough I am in the midst of writing a new installment for this 'ere website.
Glad the car seems to have drummed up some interest. I tried to answer many of the questions in the last piece but will happily answer any other qs. I realise some people don't get the whole sleeper thing, but for me it's probably the most fun. Someone forwarded me this today. How mad is this for a bonafide sleeper:
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/01/1929-ford-mod...
Watch this space for the third Retirement Rocket saga in the next coupla days... it's now all about the suspension and brakes.
Glad the car seems to have drummed up some interest. I tried to answer many of the questions in the last piece but will happily answer any other qs. I realise some people don't get the whole sleeper thing, but for me it's probably the most fun. Someone forwarded me this today. How mad is this for a bonafide sleeper:
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/01/1929-ford-mod...
Watch this space for the third Retirement Rocket saga in the next coupla days... it's now all about the suspension and brakes.
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