Well, Iv cancelled EVO.
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Hmmm, I also get fed up with the constant stream of exotica (who said unobtanium? 
) but every time I consider pulling the plug on my subscription, they go an produce a brilliant issue.
There are some issues that I end up skimming past most of the articles, then there are others where I read every word from cover to cover.
The only other thing that riles me is that once a car is replaced in the showroom they instantly consign it to the past, and it only ever reappears in a 'Classic Heroes' type article or some such. If the Clio Trophy is still the best handling hot hatch (for example) then why not compare that to the latest newcomer, because the reality is that most people purchase to a particular budget and will choose between the various options of new, nearly new and used at the price level. I'd like to see a lot more new cars compared to what else you could have for the same money, comparing the relevant rides and taking into account the likely ownership experience too.
Having said all that, I love their Road Trip style features and I think the general quality of the prose is very good, as of course is the photography. I like to read how the feature (and photography) is created just as much as to what degree the GT-whatever will drift before sending you backwards through the scenery.
) but every time I consider pulling the plug on my subscription, they go an produce a brilliant issue.There are some issues that I end up skimming past most of the articles, then there are others where I read every word from cover to cover.
The only other thing that riles me is that once a car is replaced in the showroom they instantly consign it to the past, and it only ever reappears in a 'Classic Heroes' type article or some such. If the Clio Trophy is still the best handling hot hatch (for example) then why not compare that to the latest newcomer, because the reality is that most people purchase to a particular budget and will choose between the various options of new, nearly new and used at the price level. I'd like to see a lot more new cars compared to what else you could have for the same money, comparing the relevant rides and taking into account the likely ownership experience too.
Having said all that, I love their Road Trip style features and I think the general quality of the prose is very good, as of course is the photography. I like to read how the feature (and photography) is created just as much as to what degree the GT-whatever will drift before sending you backwards through the scenery.
Edited by Mostro on Friday 11th January 09:29
Podie said:
Plotloss said:
... but the photography is epic.
Generally it is pretty good, but WTF is this fad for things that are out of focus in the main, with a tine bit in focus..!??! 
a doorknob, so to ease the commute I ventured into other magazines for a bit as a comparison. Motorsport is a bloody good read, with interesting articles and technical stuff, but it’s not exactly road car territory (in the main). Octane can be good, but Car was just dire. To that end, I’ve concluded that Evo is probably still my personal favourite – it’s just a shame that they can’t;a) Deliver it in a timely manner, because
b) They continue to fail in updating my address
Looks like cancelling and re-subscribing might be the solution, but it’s PITA. Still, third time lucky on the “free gift”
this issue is the first i've rushed home for (even though it was late)
lovely issue, the £1k cars thing is what i've been waiting for
does need to start 'buttering' up is older subscribers though.
here have a new subscription, get a free XYZ
here you've been subscribing for years, have nothing
lovely issue, the £1k cars thing is what i've been waiting for
does need to start 'buttering' up is older subscribers though.
here have a new subscription, get a free XYZ
here you've been subscribing for years, have nothing
Plotloss said:
With regards to the photography its the Zonda test they did in Italy, just amazing, best car photographs of all time.
Not tried Octance, may give it a go.
Octane's well-written but if you think Evo's elitist and unobtainable you ain't seen nothing yet.Not tried Octance, may give it a go.
It comes across as though it's written by the lord of some manor somewhere, who has unlimited funds to spend on exotica that's almost impossible to find, let alone buy and unthinkable to run. If they do feature something cheaper like an MG, the written tone is as though they're having an illicit affair with a servant girl, better get back to the blue-chip stuff in case the Ferrari finds out. Oh, and every now and then there will be a whole extra magazine dedicated to watches, or suits, or bespoke luggage, or buying shares in WWII aircraft.
IMO unless you're wadded beyond the dreams of avarice it'll only get on your tits.
I've bought Evo for many years and subscribed the last couple.
I was up the loft the other weekend and came across some old copies and the thing that struck me was how much thicker they used to be ? Was it me or wrong perception, or is this right.
Other than that, no problem on the content side, I love reading about the exotics, surely all must think one day I'll have one !
I was up the loft the other weekend and came across some old copies and the thing that struck me was how much thicker they used to be ? Was it me or wrong perception, or is this right.
Other than that, no problem on the content side, I love reading about the exotics, surely all must think one day I'll have one !
Edited by WindsorRob on Friday 11th January 10:13
Twincam16 said:
Plotloss said:
With regards to the photography its the Zonda test they did in Italy, just amazing, best car photographs of all time.
Not tried Octance, may give it a go.
Octane's well-written but if you think Evo's elitist and unobtainable you ain't seen nothing yet.Not tried Octance, may give it a go.
It comes across as though it's written by the lord of some manor somewhere, who has unlimited funds to spend on exotica that's almost impossible to find, let alone buy and unthinkable to run. If they do feature something cheaper like an MG, the written tone is as though they're having an illicit affair with a servant girl, better get back to the blue-chip stuff in case the Ferrari finds out. Oh, and every now and then there will be a whole extra magazine dedicated to watches, or suits, or bespoke luggage, or buying shares in WWII aircraft.
IMO unless you're wadded beyond the dreams of avarice it'll only get on your tits.
But they do write about some very interesting cars.
Heebeegeetee said:
I know exactly what you mean, you sometimes feel like intruding on someone's private clique.
Reading Octane reminds me of most car/lifestyle conversations I've had with public school rugby-types.Heebeegeetee said:
But they do write about some very interesting cars.
True, but nothing that isn't found alongside a more affordable mix in Classic Cars and Classic & Sports Car.GregE240 said:
Podie said:
Plotloss said:
... but the photography is epic.
Generally it is pretty good, but WTF is this fad for things that are out of focus in the main, with a tine bit in focus..!??! a doorknob, so to ease the commute I ventured into other magazines for a bit as a comparison. Motorsport is a bloody good read, with interesting articles and technical stuff, but it’s not exactly road car territory (in the main). Octane can be good, but Car was just dire. To that end, I’ve concluded that Evo is probably still my personal favourite – it’s just a shame that they can’t;a) Deliver it in a timely manner, because
b) They continue to fail in updating my address
Looks like cancelling and re-subscribing might be the solution, but it’s PITA. Still, third time lucky on the “free gift”
Podie said:
Twincam16 said:
Reading Octane reminds me of most car/lifestyle conversations I've had with public school rugby-types.
Humour me, will you...As such, I feel uncomfortable reading Octane, whilst CC and C&SC can write about the exact same cars and feature the same 'gentleman's club'-type products in their gear sections without coming across like that.
Twincam16 said:
Podie said:
Twincam16 said:
Reading Octane reminds me of most car/lifestyle conversations I've had with public school rugby-types.
Humour me, will you...As such, I feel uncomfortable reading Octane, whilst CC and C&SC can write about the exact same cars and feature the same 'gentleman's club'-type products in their gear sections without coming across like that.
(state school educated before anyone starts)
I had a call from them this week asking if i'd like ot subscribe and get three issues for £1. I said I would, but doubt they'll get any more out of me. Three for less than the price of one is great, but I buy each copy on its own merits usually, so want to keep that freedom after the three months is up.
I wish they'd do what Mens Health seem to have done. For £5.99 I bought a 'fitness special' magazine by them, which had all their fitness, weight training, injury and nutrition advice from the last 12 months condensed into one mag, with no adverts and no fluff. All they needed was the sex tips bit (not that I need any help you understand) and you'd never need to buy the normal mag (which I don't anyway). So Evo should do a condensed version every year of the good stuff, and leave the 8 pages of 'the story of Shell Oil' in the bin where it belongs.
I wish they'd do what Mens Health seem to have done. For £5.99 I bought a 'fitness special' magazine by them, which had all their fitness, weight training, injury and nutrition advice from the last 12 months condensed into one mag, with no adverts and no fluff. All they needed was the sex tips bit (not that I need any help you understand) and you'd never need to buy the normal mag (which I don't anyway). So Evo should do a condensed version every year of the good stuff, and leave the 8 pages of 'the story of Shell Oil' in the bin where it belongs.
Podie said:
Twincam16 said:
Podie said:
Twincam16 said:
Reading Octane reminds me of most car/lifestyle conversations I've had with public school rugby-types.
Humour me, will you...As such, I feel uncomfortable reading Octane, whilst CC and C&SC can write about the exact same cars and feature the same 'gentleman's club'-type products in their gear sections without coming across like that.
(state school educated before anyone starts)
For example, there's a guy I know who fits the 'public school/rugby' description, who's been used to private healthcare all his life, has a very healthy family and resents paying taxes to fund the NHS. This is mentioned in a casual, off-the-cuff 'of course in this country we're all so well off we shouldn't have to put up with the NHS' type of comment.
Both myself and a mate of mine who were present have family members dependent on the NHS for ongoing treatment, ie medicines and procedures that would cost another above-average income to pay for. Eventually, after much argument, he reluctantly ate his words, but people like that just remind me of Michael Gambon's comment in Layer Cake where he says 'one day, when you've climbed so high, you forget what shit even looks like'.
Twincam16 said:
Podie said:
Twincam16 said:
Podie said:
Twincam16 said:
Reading Octane reminds me of most car/lifestyle conversations I've had with public school rugby-types.
Humour me, will you...As such, I feel uncomfortable reading Octane, whilst CC and C&SC can write about the exact same cars and feature the same 'gentleman's club'-type products in their gear sections without coming across like that.
(state school educated before anyone starts)
For example, there's a guy I know who fits the 'public school/rugby' description, who's been used to private healthcare all his life, has a very healthy family and resents paying taxes to fund the NHS. This is mentioned in a casual, off-the-cuff 'of course in this country we're all so well off we shouldn't have to put up with the NHS' type of comment.
Both myself and a mate of mine who were present have family members dependent on the NHS for ongoing treatment, ie medicines and procedures that would cost another above-average income to pay for. Eventually, after much argument, he reluctantly ate his words, but people like that just remind me of Michael Gambon's comment in Layer Cake where he says 'one day, when you've climbed so high, you forget what shit even looks like'.
SoH failure this morning..?
Egbert Nobacon said:
But what will millions of men read in the loo ?
Its not the same performing your morning constitutional with a notebook/laptop balanced on your lap
This post is probably a prime example of probably "too much information", but....Its not the same performing your morning constitutional with a notebook/laptop balanced on your lap
Edited by Egbert Nobacon on Friday 11th January 08:54
I think I have found the perfect loo internet browsing tool, the iPod Touch or iPhone.
To be honest, I usually lose the feeling in my legs when I've got a good magazine in the smallest room in the house, and it can even make me late for work! I once remember that an issue of EVO was so good that when I stood up off the toilet my leg collapsed beneath me!!
Be careful, a good magazine could definitely be the cause of DVT, but EVO is no longer causing me that risk!
Volte said:
Egbert Nobacon said:
But what will millions of men read in the loo ?
Its not the same performing your morning constitutional with a notebook/laptop balanced on your lap
This post is probably a prime example of probably "too much information", but....Its not the same performing your morning constitutional with a notebook/laptop balanced on your lap
Edited by Egbert Nobacon on Friday 11th January 08:54
I think I have found the perfect loo internet browsing tool, the iPod Touch or iPhone.
To be honest, I usually lose the feeling in my legs when I've got a good magazine in the smallest room in the house, and it can even make me late for work! I once remember that an issue of EVO was so good that when I stood up off the toilet my leg collapsed beneath me!!
Be careful, a good magazine could definitely be the cause of DVT, but EVO is no longer causing me that risk!
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