Urban myths about cars

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sawman

4,920 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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Twice this week I have been asked if my morgan really has a wooden chassis. doh!

Police State

4,068 posts

221 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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Engineer1 said:
It is better, it reduces the load on the starter, and also prevents any problems of being started in gear. Some manufacturers even put a switch in the ignition system meaning it won't start unless the clutch is depressed
Do Automatics that start in Park have a comparable system to starting a manual with the clutch pedal depressed?


OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

178 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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HAB said:
Porsche recommends depressing the clutch for cold starts in the 964 C2 owners manual
I still do this on all my cars - it's a habit learned by owning lots of old land rovers. Especially if they aren't used regularly, you always start them before using any other electricals such as the lights and you start them with the clutch down so the starter motor only has to turn over the engine, not the gearbox layshaft as well! Sometimes it's the difference between starting and not starting. biggrin

TallPaul

1,517 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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syncro. said:
... I'd rather not load up the un-lubricated thrust bearing in the engine then turn it over. Much better in my oppion is to slightly increase the stress on the starter and wait till the thrust bearing is lubricated before loading it up!
How does the thrust bearing get lubricated?

HAB

3,632 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Good question.

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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TallPaul said:
syncro. said:
... I'd rather not load up the un-lubricated thrust bearing in the engine then turn it over. Much better in my oppion is to slightly increase the stress on the starter and wait till the thrust bearing is lubricated before loading it up!
How does the thrust bearing get lubricated?
I dont think he quite knows what he is talking about!

Thrust bearing is not part of the engine ,for a start.

Certainly wouldnt be an issue with it being lubricated or not - its just a bearing, like any other, but just more difficult to get at!

SFB

9 posts

167 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Original Hyundai Coupe would not start without the clutch depressed and the old Kawasaki Z650 wouldn't unless either the sidestand was up or the clutch engaged, think it was to stop them being sued by idiots who never checked if they were in gear

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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sawman said:
Twice this week I have been asked if my morgan really has a wooden chassis. doh!
And you told them the truth yes?
After all everyone knows it's fibreglass coated balsa wood yes

Or888t

1,686 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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jatinder said:
peterbean said:
The best one I ever heard;-

"If you twist the hazard lights switch in a Vauxhall Nova it starts every time due to the ignition and lighting looms on the same cable..."
No if you take it out without breaking it, turn it aound and plug it back in. You could bump start the car.

Edited by jatinder on Friday 14th March 13:01
100% me and a mate did it ina 1st shape corsa... repeatedly, some time last year, something werid goes on when you put the lights on aswell. can't remember what.

The old ford things completly true aswell seen that done, any worn ford key will fit in any worn ford lock and work.

useyourdellusion

5,648 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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anonymous said:
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Yes, I remember reading that all the time too.

My favourite rumour at the time was that the 1.9 was so powerful, in certain cases the alloys could be made to spin whilst the tyres remained stationary and they had to be recalled by Peugeot.

I was SO in awe of them though, I'm ashamed to say, I was taken in for a while.

Youth and naivity eh! hehe

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Or888t said:
jatinder said:
peterbean said:
The best one I ever heard;-

"If you twist the hazard lights switch in a Vauxhall Nova it starts every time due to the ignition and lighting looms on the same cable..."
No if you take it out without breaking it, turn it aound and plug it back in. You could bump start the car.

Edited by jatinder on Friday 14th March 13:01
100% me and a mate did it ina 1st shape corsa... repeatedly, some time last year, something werid goes on when you put the lights on aswell. can't remember what.

The old ford things completly true aswell seen that done, any worn ford key will fit in any worn ford lock and work.
How people ever found that out about the Novas i'll never know. I remember this well and a mate had his sisters (face lifted interior) Nova one night and we tried it and it bump started. Although the steering was still locked and the switch seemed a little hot when putting back the right way around.

I was actually amazed that it did actually work.


JR

12,722 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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anonymous said:
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Exactly. No doubt you've also read about Merc scraping the paint off the bodies in the '34 GP to reduce weight...

Lefty 200 Drams

16,166 posts

203 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Skodaku said:
Poor old Chevrolet with their Camaro, which translates as Donkey in Spanish.
I thought Donkey was Burro?

Lefty 200 Drams

16,166 posts

203 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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yonex said:
Half a tennis ball over the locks opens some car doors.

Sticking a stereo in a freezer removes the lock code.

Both good 90's myths biggrin
I've hjeard that freezer one, no idea if it's true?

Whne I was at uni we had to buy little cards with a magnetic strip to pay for photocopies. Once the card was down to 2 or 3 copies left, you could increase the number by putting them in the freezer overnight. True, I did it many times.

Dave_ST220

10,296 posts

206 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Or888t said:
jatinder said:
peterbean said:
The best one I ever heard;-

"If you twist the hazard lights switch in a Vauxhall Nova it starts every time due to the ignition and lighting looms on the same cable..."
No if you take it out without breaking it, turn it aound and plug it back in. You could bump start the car.

Edited by jatinder on Friday 14th March 13:01
100% me and a mate did it ina 1st shape corsa... repeatedly, some time last year, something werid goes on when you put the lights on aswell. can't remember what.

The old ford things completly true aswell seen that done, any worn ford key will fit in any worn ford lock and work.
I thought that was utter bks until a lad at work showed me!!

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Lefty 200 Drams said:
Skodaku said:
Poor old Chevrolet with their Camaro, which translates as Donkey in Spanish.
I thought Donkey was Burro?
Camaro means "old friend". I think Skodaku means "idiot" in Polish. wink

RB26DETT

2,519 posts

176 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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yonex said:
a stereo in a freezer removes the lock code.

Both good 90's myths biggrin
Anyone ??
Would like to hear more on this one.

Edited by RB26DETT on Wednesday 16th June 09:24

JAM35F

1,267 posts

253 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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The half a tennis ball trick to open some car doors is almost true.

My dad used to be in the police and used to go around manufacturers and dealers showing the weaknesses in their car's security. Volvos of a certain age could easily be opened with the tennis ball he kept in his briefcase of tricks.

But it wasn't half a tennis ball, you had to cut a small hole the same size as the lock so the ball would fit snuggly. Then give it a whack, up pops the lock.

Jags of a certain age could also be opened by repeatedly trying to open the handle quickly, the wire for the locking was weak and under alot of tension so repeated attempts on the door handle would snap it and the door would be open.

Arese

21,019 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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wiliferus said:
In fact, the Vectra 2.8t version that a few forces currently use is downtuned for efficiency and durability. I'm pretty sure the VXR comes out the factory with circa 280 bhp... the Police Special version has 240bhp.
There is a version of the 2.8t putting out ~240bhp that is used in non-VXR Vectra's, in the higher trim levels (Elite etc). I imagine that's the engine in the Police versions, rather than a specially detuned one?

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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anonymous said:
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err in the mercedes musuem they claim that's true....