RE: More Pics Of Fake Builder's Van
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Sorry - didn't get my whole post entered:
This is all too common:
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/News/ROAD_DEATH_VICTIM_CARRI...
Very tragic, no speeding involved and utterly preventable
Drive safely - and remember that the other road users are indeed all out to get you!
This is all too common:
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/News/ROAD_DEATH_VICTIM_CARRI...
Very tragic, no speeding involved and utterly preventable
Drive safely - and remember that the other road users are indeed all out to get you!
J16GY said:
Im ready to open the whole can of worms here and wait your responses, as soon as I have posted this I may log off!
This conversation has been had billions of times before on here, I have had 12 points on my license over a period of years now, got 6 at the moment, I got them for speeding, because I was speeding, I was over the speed limit in an area where I shouldnt be, I deserved those points no matter how annoying they are, I deserve them because I was speeding.
If you dont speed, then cameras in police vans, in blue vans in disguise, held by policeman in glow in the dark jackets or by tramps, or camouflaged ice cream vans or Bill Oddie dressed as a green woodpecker will not affect you...
I DO agree that some of the speed limits are stupid in certain areas, but I also agree that some drivers are c*cks in certain areas, around schools or built up areas, and these are the drivers that havent got children of their own trying to cross roads in these areas... I await the bitter responses!
Whilst I do agree that unneccesary speed can be dangerous in the wrong place, the idea for these scameras was originally to reduce fatalities/injuries. having them clearly marked in accident black spots is perfectly reasonable.This conversation has been had billions of times before on here, I have had 12 points on my license over a period of years now, got 6 at the moment, I got them for speeding, because I was speeding, I was over the speed limit in an area where I shouldnt be, I deserved those points no matter how annoying they are, I deserve them because I was speeding.
If you dont speed, then cameras in police vans, in blue vans in disguise, held by policeman in glow in the dark jackets or by tramps, or camouflaged ice cream vans or Bill Oddie dressed as a green woodpecker will not affect you...
I DO agree that some of the speed limits are stupid in certain areas, but I also agree that some drivers are c*cks in certain areas, around schools or built up areas, and these are the drivers that havent got children of their own trying to cross roads in these areas... I await the bitter responses!
However "hiding" the cameras is obviously intended for revenue generation, NOT for safety.
p_a_u_l said:
J16GY said:
Im ready to open the whole can of worms here and wait your responses, as soon as I have posted this I may log off!
This conversation has been had billions of times before on here, I have had 12 points on my license over a period of years now, got 6 at the moment, I got them for speeding, because I was speeding, I was over the speed limit in an area where I shouldnt be, I deserved those points no matter how annoying they are, I deserve them because I was speeding.
If you dont speed, then cameras in police vans, in blue vans in disguise, held by policeman in glow in the dark jackets or by tramps, or camouflaged ice cream vans or Bill Oddie dressed as a green woodpecker will not affect you...
I DO agree that some of the speed limits are stupid in certain areas, but I also agree that some drivers are c*cks in certain areas, around schools or built up areas, and these are the drivers that havent got children of their own trying to cross roads in these areas... I await the bitter responses!
I'm in complete agreement with you for what it's worth. This conversation has been had billions of times before on here, I have had 12 points on my license over a period of years now, got 6 at the moment, I got them for speeding, because I was speeding, I was over the speed limit in an area where I shouldnt be, I deserved those points no matter how annoying they are, I deserve them because I was speeding.
If you dont speed, then cameras in police vans, in blue vans in disguise, held by policeman in glow in the dark jackets or by tramps, or camouflaged ice cream vans or Bill Oddie dressed as a green woodpecker will not affect you...
I DO agree that some of the speed limits are stupid in certain areas, but I also agree that some drivers are c*cks in certain areas, around schools or built up areas, and these are the drivers that havent got children of their own trying to cross roads in these areas... I await the bitter responses!
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I was exceeding the limit recently on a road and slowed down whilst approaching a van parked in a layby that looked a litle 'suspect'. It wasnt a police van, and it turned out to not even be a camera van. But the thought that it could have been one had its desired affect on my speed.
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LOL. So basically, instead of everyone braking suddenly for every marked van, they will be braking or every single van, car or lorry parked up at the side of the road. Genius.
Personally - I speed. I do 40 in a 30 when it's safe to do so, I do 35 when in the wet. Sometimes I do less than the speed limit. I drive perfectly safely, and while I've only been going for 2 years, I have yet to see ANYONE driving too fast for the road and conditions. There is a lot of cameras about for what must be a very small minority.
I was exceeding the limit recently on a road and slowed down whilst approaching a van parked in a layby that looked a litle 'suspect'. It wasnt a police van, and it turned out to not even be a camera van. But the thought that it could have been one had its desired affect on my speed.
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LOL. So basically, instead of everyone braking suddenly for every marked van, they will be braking or every single van, car or lorry parked up at the side of the road. Genius.
Personally - I speed. I do 40 in a 30 when it's safe to do so, I do 35 when in the wet. Sometimes I do less than the speed limit. I drive perfectly safely, and while I've only been going for 2 years, I have yet to see ANYONE driving too fast for the road and conditions. There is a lot of cameras about for what must be a very small minority.
What happened to that Captain Gatso fella?
Surely builders vans in disguise will burn quicker than the cameras did.
Its about time the plod started doing a proper job for the community and catch some real criminals, like the w@nkers who hang around village shops drinking Stella and abusing innocent members of the public, to be honest cannot remember the last time i saw a proper plod walking the streets, and to be honest i don't know one member of the public who have a decent thing to say about them these days a total waste of tax payers money end of story.
Surely builders vans in disguise will burn quicker than the cameras did.
Its about time the plod started doing a proper job for the community and catch some real criminals, like the w@nkers who hang around village shops drinking Stella and abusing innocent members of the public, to be honest cannot remember the last time i saw a proper plod walking the streets, and to be honest i don't know one member of the public who have a decent thing to say about them these days a total waste of tax payers money end of story.
Skinner.Daddy said:
FYI - Done a DVLA check on this vehicle and it came up with the following
Vauxhall
Movano 3.3T Swb H/R 2.2Dti
Panel Van (Integral)
CC - 2187
Colour - White
Reg Date - 01/07/2002
Current Keeper start date - 01/07/2002
Previous Colours - 0
Previous Owners - 0
Ie. it's still owned by plod but further more shouldn't they have made the DVLA aware that the colour has changed? I thought that was a legal requirement?
There is another possibility, it really is a builders van, but it's stolen and they have chosen a very unfortunate registration number to steal!
According to Derbyshire Police when this was first uncovered, they had submitted the paperwork to DVLA so it "...wasn't their fault..." it was still showing-up as white.Vauxhall
Movano 3.3T Swb H/R 2.2Dti
Panel Van (Integral)
CC - 2187
Colour - White
Reg Date - 01/07/2002
Current Keeper start date - 01/07/2002
Previous Colours - 0
Previous Owners - 0
Ie. it's still owned by plod but further more shouldn't they have made the DVLA aware that the colour has changed? I thought that was a legal requirement?
There is another possibility, it really is a builders van, but it's stolen and they have chosen a very unfortunate registration number to steal!
The person responsible for these vans at Derbyshire Police headquarters is a Mr Hitchcock, the Vehicle Fleet Manager, and the telephone number for Derbyshire Constabulary is 0845 123 33 33.
tlracing said:
Skinner.Daddy said:
FYI - Done a DVLA check on this vehicle and it came up with the following
Vauxhall
Movano 3.3T Swb H/R 2.2Dti
Panel Van (Integral)
CC - 2187
Colour - White
Reg Date - 01/07/2002
Current Keeper start date - 01/07/2002
Previous Colours - 0
Previous Owners - 0
Ie. it's still owned by plod but further more shouldn't they have made the DVLA aware that the colour has changed? I thought that was a legal requirement?
There is another possibility, it really is a builders van, but it's stolen and they have chosen a very unfortunate registration number to steal!
According to Derbyshire Police when this was first uncovered, they had submitted the paperwork to DVLA so it "...wasn't their fault..." it was still showing-up as white.Vauxhall
Movano 3.3T Swb H/R 2.2Dti
Panel Van (Integral)
CC - 2187
Colour - White
Reg Date - 01/07/2002
Current Keeper start date - 01/07/2002
Previous Colours - 0
Previous Owners - 0
Ie. it's still owned by plod but further more shouldn't they have made the DVLA aware that the colour has changed? I thought that was a legal requirement?
There is another possibility, it really is a builders van, but it's stolen and they have chosen a very unfortunate registration number to steal!
The person responsible for these vans at Derbyshire Police headquarters is a Mr Hitchcock, the Vehicle Fleet Manager, and the telephone number for Derbyshire Constabulary is 0845 123 33 33.
J16GY said:
Im ready to open the whole can of worms here and wait your responses, as soon as I have posted this I may log off!
This conversation has been had billions of times before on here, I have had 12 points on my license over a period of years now, got 6 at the moment, I got them for speeding, because I was speeding, I was over the speed limit in an area where I shouldnt be, I deserved those points no matter how annoying they are, I deserve them because I was speeding.
If you dont speed, then cameras in police vans, in blue vans in disguise, held by policeman in glow in the dark jackets or by tramps, or camouflaged ice cream vans or Bill Oddie dressed as a green woodpecker will not affect you...
I DO agree that some of the speed limits are stupid in certain areas, but I also agree that some drivers are c*cks in certain areas, around schools or built up areas, and these are the drivers that havent got children of their own trying to cross roads in these areas... I await the bitter responses!
No arguments from here, either. "Don't do the crime, don't do the time" etc.This conversation has been had billions of times before on here, I have had 12 points on my license over a period of years now, got 6 at the moment, I got them for speeding, because I was speeding, I was over the speed limit in an area where I shouldnt be, I deserved those points no matter how annoying they are, I deserve them because I was speeding.
If you dont speed, then cameras in police vans, in blue vans in disguise, held by policeman in glow in the dark jackets or by tramps, or camouflaged ice cream vans or Bill Oddie dressed as a green woodpecker will not affect you...
I DO agree that some of the speed limits are stupid in certain areas, but I also agree that some drivers are c*cks in certain areas, around schools or built up areas, and these are the drivers that havent got children of their own trying to cross roads in these areas... I await the bitter responses!
designer said:
Underhand tactics just to raise money and nothing to do with reducing road safety. If motorists are speeding, they will not slow down for a builders van parked at the side of the road, but if it was a fully marked up Police van, I would imagine more speeding motorist would slow down, therefore helping road safety!
Here here!Nuova500 said:
10 Pence Short said:
The van IS being used for speed detection, as the marked vans were giving "no income whatsoever".
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As people have already said, someone needs to go and park up behind it and accidentaly obstruct the camera.
This is a sly dirty tactic that is making me loose any respect i once had for the police. You NEVER see a policeman walking the streets these days, but on one car journey you are guarenteed to see at least 5 police trying to catch motorists out. Argh!
GO AND SOLVE SOME BLOODY REAL CRIME.
This is a sly dirty tactic that is making me loose any respect i once had for the police. You NEVER see a policeman walking the streets these days, but on one car journey you are guarenteed to see at least 5 police trying to catch motorists out. Argh!
GO AND SOLVE SOME BLOODY REAL CRIME.
I'm afraid just another method of entrapment for collecting tax. Nothing to do with road safety for sure. My respect for the police is at an all time low, if they wanted to be tax collectors they should have joined the HMRC in the first place and got it over with.
I remember the days when traffic police used judgement and discretion but political correctness put an end to that.
Perhaps they should concentrate on car crime, or East European cars that have been here over six months and have not re-registerd and paying road fund licence - too much like hard work, perhaps.
I remember the days when traffic police used judgement and discretion but political correctness put an end to that.
Perhaps they should concentrate on car crime, or East European cars that have been here over six months and have not re-registerd and paying road fund licence - too much like hard work, perhaps.
10 Pence Short said:
Already spoken to the partnership last week.
The van IS being used for speed detection, as the marked vans were having "no impact whatsoever".
They are planning to introduce more unmarked vans in Derbyshire.
What do they mean by "having no impact whatsoever"? That people were still driving above the legal limit? Or people were driving within the law and not getting fined? Surely that means the van was having an impact as people were driving within the legal limit, which is the whole point of this exercise...The van IS being used for speed detection, as the marked vans were having "no impact whatsoever".
They are planning to introduce more unmarked vans in Derbyshire.
It looks like the person from the Partnership that 10 Pence Short spoke to last week has answered all our rants and fears. These speed cameras are just about raising extra cash
(however I'm not sure what for yet).
kers !Munich said:
What do they mean by "having no impact whatsoever"? That people were still driving above the legal limit? Or people were driving within the law and not getting fined? Surely that means the van was having an impact as people were driving within the legal limit, which is the whole point of this exercise...
It looks like the person from the Partnership that 10 Pence Short spoke to last week has answered all our rants and fears. These speed cameras are just about raising extra cash (however I'm not sure what for yet).
In the context of the conversation, it was in relation to KSIs, specifically in her mind with motorbikes.It looks like the person from the Partnership that 10 Pence Short spoke to last week has answered all our rants and fears. These speed cameras are just about raising extra cash
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