RE: Shed Of The Week

RE: Shed Of The Week

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sniff petrol

13,064 posts

182 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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hirsty27 said:
Have you got enough pictures up??..silly

I take it your a big fan of the car!.wink

Some really nice cars in there..thumbup, although white cars are definatly not always cool, especially if you've got to clean the buggers every five minutes!!..mad
Do you have to quote the whole post?

B'stard Child

23,239 posts

216 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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zakmat said:
Perhaps this would have been a more convincing car for DCI Gene Hunt to use in Ashes to Ashes?
They'd have to find one - at the risk of getting banned for too many pictures

Here are some UK ones - I'll start with the ones more specifically local to me

3.6 engine, hot cam and rare irmscher kit







AM (Trackday Monza WIP!!!)







Got any of the front mister?????



Currently having an engine refresh, Gold top head, road & track cam, MAF, Calibra turbo inj, Dual ram from 2.6 plus megasquirt to make it all run



Mine and another local member at a recent show

So two monzas

Black one (OK gray ish)



And a white one



So ideal photo opportunity



In black and white of course



I also own this but it's a bit of a mess

Nice bright interior



That's how to blend the paint work in



intricate bonnet detailing



Built in 1980

Crashed same year (too badly to be sold on thro dealer network)
Repaired by Frank O'Rourke

Crashed by Frank on a hill climb
Left for dead for a while

Bought by Austin McHale - repaired
Rallied for two events

Crashed on the first one - rear 3/4 damage (Circuit of Ireland)
Repaired for the Manx

Crashed on the Manx - Front nearside
Repaired and sold

Bought by Ken Lark - rolled it
Repaired (I think) and sold

Most recently involved in a barn fire

Could you possibly imagine a more unlucky car!!!

It used to look like this and will by the end of the year look like that again










Edited by B'stard Child on Saturday 10th May 21:38


Edited by B'stard Child on Saturday 10th May 21:40

SS HSV

9,190 posts

228 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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Fantastic bit of info, thanks for sharing that history thumbup

LooseCannon

288 posts

197 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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B'stard Child said:
Saw this in action on the RAC in North Yorkshire many years ago, made everyone smile!

B'stard Child

23,239 posts

216 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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SS HSV said:
Fantastic bit of info, thanks for sharing that history thumbup
It was a joint effort by Big Rod and myself with many thanks to a huge number of others including a lot of rally fans in Ireland as well as Austin McHale, co-driver at the time Christy Farrell and Mickey Eiffe who converted and preped the car.

Anyway Back to topic

Why a Monza and why are they such great cars

- cheap as chips (good thing for people that know how good they are)

- built with nice quality metal (yes they do have rust problems but once it's cut out the existing metal welds really well)

- unbustable engines capable of huge mileages

- great gearboxes - yes the 4 speed auto isn't bad but the Getrag 265 is pretty unbreakable

(apart from the early 3 speed autos which are short geared and sluggish IMO)

- Seating for 4 in comfort

- versatile load area - rear seats fold down flat so if you need to move a freezer to the local tip it's an easy job (my non colapsable engine crane fits in perfectly and it's bloody huge

- excellent handling, neutral and without understeer (oversteer on the ragged edge when you plant the loud pedal)

As far as colours go the following is IMHO

Barrat brown and any of the golds are a bit Meh!!

Anthracite, white, black and silver are all great

Carnelian red - looks good if the paint is fresh other wise looks a bit naff as it's rarely in good condition and frequently suffers fading and laquer lift

They did a light green and a few other colours that are very rare so I haven't seen enough of them to make my mind up

Whatever colour external the inside has got be charcoal as the brown version fitted to some GSE's looks pretty poor in most colours

Other reasons to buy one are......

- Insurance at £150 per year fully comp and agreed miles

- Monaro style (two door coupe for peanuts compared to BMW 635 and Capri 2.8)

- Opel Badge (exclusive) It attracts more comments than my Lotus Carlton (might be the noise tho)

- Electric Windows

- Electric Sunroof (tilt and slide)

- Central locking

- Opening rear windows

- 6 dial intruments (Oil pressure and voltmeter)

- Trip computer

- LSD

- ABS (if you hunt for one with it)

I'm sorry for excessive posting (and maybe too many pics) but I really am a huge fan of these cars, they are terribly underated and not enough people are saving them - the manuals are frequently broken just for the gearboxes which go on to be used in kit cars and even cozzies!!!





B'stard Child

23,239 posts

216 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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LooseCannon said:
B'stard Child said:
Saw this in action on the RAC in North Yorkshire many years ago, made everyone smile!
I don't like to correct people but this one was never used on the RAC AFAIK

Two drivers did use Monzas on the RAC and it's possible you could have seen either of these

Gavin Cox - Group A car - registration was RAW 606X

That car was damaged beyond repair several years ago IRC

And

Martin Stockdale - His Monza was a 1979 Opel Monza EBL 260V and it died on the RAC in 1991 - he hit a big tree stump and whilst it was patched up enough to get him home it was never ever going to be possible to be repaired properly and safely

We "believe" that Martin Stockdale had the original engine out of Austin McHale's car and that went on to live in a Carlton GSI3000 that Martin also rallied but haven't found that car yet

Martin currently rallies this



I'd better stop now cos this is going way off topic - Monzas are adictive like that - better than any drugs I reckon

AERO_HDT

21 posts

161 months

Sunday 11th May 2008
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Peter Brock tried to import Opel Monza's back in the mid 1980s to Australia under his Holden Dealer Team banner. HDT were responsible back then for keeping the muscle-car market alive and HDT Commodores are now fetching some exorbitant prices. The HDT Monza was a stillborn concept (you can Google it though), although Brocky planned the fitment of a 180kW 5.0 litre V8 engine for road use. Our late 1970's and 1980s Commodores were based around the Opel Rekord/Senator and our serious performance cars (back then) were real road rockets and Group A homologated.

There was once a guy, about five or six years ago by the name of Eddy Tassone, who took what you guys would call an '83 Opel Senator and created Australia's most powerful road-registered car. His 383ci twin turbo VH Commodore put out somewhere in the regions of 1300bhp at the rear wheels and was able to run the quarter mile in 8.1 seconds flat.

The last time I was in Europe a few years ago, I came across a few run down Opel Monza's and the odd Senator and they were sorry sights indeed. Good to see that there is some love in Europe for these cars after all, as an Opel Monza in Australia, fitted with the right engine, period interior and Bilstein suspension would fetch a fair bit of dough.

B'stard Child

23,239 posts

216 months

Sunday 11th May 2008
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AERO_HDT said:
Peter Brock tried to import Opel Monza's back in the mid 1980s to Australia under his Holden Dealer Team banner. HDT were responsible back then for keeping the muscle-car market alive and HDT Commodores are now fetching some exorbitant prices. The HDT Monza was a stillborn concept (you can Google it though), although Brocky planned the fitment of a 180kW 5.0 litre V8 engine for road use.
The one he planned to make for the road looks good still biglaugh



Especially with that 5.0 litre V8 cloud9



AERO_HDT said:
The last time I was in Europe a few years ago, I came across a few run down Opel Monza's and the odd Senator and they were sorry sights indeed. Good to see that there is some love in Europe for these cars after all, as an Opel Monza in Australia, fitted with the right engine, period interior and Bilstein suspension would fetch a fair bit of dough.
There are a few in Oz and NZ - in fact there seems to be a developing club over there with a forum to cover old Opels

Edited by B'stard Child on Sunday 11th May 09:09

J500ANT

3,101 posts

209 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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When I left school my first job was in a Vauxhall dealer that had converted from being an Opel dealer, so I was around cars like this, big old Senators, Mantas etc. Seeing this thread really takes me back.

One thing I seem to recall on these was the tilt steering column used to get sloppy and there wasnt a way to repair without replacing. Also the heater matrix wasnt good and was a P I G to replace, dash out iirc. We used to have lots of customers with them in Bristol, and I used to post parts out all over the country for them. There was an AA or RAC patrolman who had a handfull of them, all running iirc. Must have been better paid back then.

buccal

480 posts

162 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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dad's mate had a white manta when i was a kid, still have a soft spot for them

PATTERNPART

688 posts

171 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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Blimey I've just seen more of these in the last 5 minutes than in my life prior to that! (Not bad motors though) I had a 3 Litre Carlton for a while which had a very likeable personality.

B'stard Child

23,239 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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PATTERNPART said:
Blimey I've just seen more of these in the last 5 minutes than in my life prior to that! (Not bad motors though) I had a 3 Litre Carlton for a while which had a very likeable personality.
Wanna see some more laugh

I've had several 3.0 Senators and I know what you mean - very likable cars

B'stard Child

23,239 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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buccal said:
dad's mate had a white manta when i was a kid, still have a soft spot for them
Yeah Mantas are nice - shame this thread is about Monzas - still easily confused rolleyes

forsure

2,003 posts

238 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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I had one of those in '95/96. A white GSE auto.

It was one of those cars that, when it was first released, I thought ' I'll have one of those, one day'.

Still in my top three best cars I owned.

Was involved in a very special relationship at the time. Happy memories.


AERO_HDT

21 posts

161 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Great piccy of the HDT Monza! Note the VL Group A in the background, that's also an Opel-based car. Last car Peter Brock won Bathhurst in I think. And to think that I could have bought one of those a few years ago for $20K. They're now worth $80K plus and in a year, they'll top a hundred!

Nice investment for an Opel Senator don't you think?

SS HSV

9,190 posts

228 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Ok, it's back home after an ordeal or two and a few stories to tell collecting it. I'm just waiting for a phone call from the dealer I bought it from and then I shall begin smile

B'stard Child

23,239 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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SS HSV said:
Ok, it's back home after an ordeal or two and a few stories to tell collecting it. I'm just waiting for a phone call from the dealer I bought it from and then I shall begin smile
Slightly OT - Did you get my reply to your email or did it end up in your spam folder

SS HSV

9,190 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Ah glad you posted that.. was indeed in the spam folder! YHM

AERO_HDT

21 posts

161 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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What did you buy SS? I'm intrigued now!

;)

B'stard Child

23,239 posts

216 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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AERO_HDT said:
What did you buy SS? I'm intrigued now!

;)
The car that was listed in the original post AFAIK