Just something to see if it works. Mod on Duty!

[anonymous-user]

ATM said:

4941cc said:

279 said:

Budget for coil packs (£1,500ish)

I thought the coil packs were only of concern on the 5.8 N/A V12 due to the selective cylinder shutdown tech that the biturbo doesn't have.

Good bearding.

From the research I did the coil packs on the NA and TT are the same, and even if they aren't identical, they are still a known problem on the TT and still sodding expensive.

Apparently the NA's didn't run with any sort of knock sensor and instead used the electronics inside the coils that could monitor detonation better than a traditional sensor. The TT do have a traditional sensor along with the det monitoring coils which are supposedly why the TTs gain huge amounts of power on high octane fuel because the ECU can detect detonation so precisely on each cylinder.

Almost helps justify the cost of the coils. Almost

[hornetrider]

W00DY said:

I'd be concerned about the reliability of a Touareg or Phaeton.

Are they a bit dodgy then? I'm having outside thoughts of next motor and going more bargey. I'd love a FFRR but the bork scares me at my budget and mileage, hence was thinking a Toerag V10 Altitude might be a safer option...

[ATM]

hornetrider said:

W00DY said:

I'd be concerned about the reliability of a Touareg or Phaeton.

Are they a bit dodgy then? I'm having outside thoughts of next motor and going more bargey. I'd love a FFRR but the bork scares me at my budget and mileage, hence was thinking a Toerag V10 Altitude might be a safer option...

I thought the Touareg V10 eats tyres quicker than it eats diesel.

[hornetrider]

I'd imagine that all depends on how leaden your foot is(!)

[alpha channel]

How about this XF - http://tinyurl.com/ojyab5b has the 4.2 V8, MOT until July 2016... has the 4.2 V8, all for the princely sum of £7800. Sorely tempted, fuel prices low, Alfa's sprung and oil leak from somewhere (and developed a bit of a knock from the rear under acceleration from a start and it's an oil burner).

[4941cc]

279 said:

ATM said:

4941cc said:

279 said:

Budget for coil packs (£1,500ish)

I thought the coil packs were only of concern on the 5.8 N/A V12 due to the selective cylinder shutdown tech that the biturbo doesn't have.

Good bearding.

From the research I did the coil packs on the NA and TT are the same, and even if they aren't identical, they are still a known problem on the TT and still sodding expensive.

Apparently the NA's didn't run with any sort of knock sensor and instead used the electronics inside the coils that could monitor detonation better than a traditional sensor. The TT do have a traditional sensor along with the det monitoring coils which are supposedly why the TTs gain huge amounts of power on high octane fuel because the ECU can detect detonation so precisely on each cylinder.

Almost helps justify the cost of the coils. Almost

Now THAT is top bearding!

[Bit of a Unit]

Thanks for the replies.

That volvo is interesting, just the reason why posted. Hadn't considered that and modern volvos are such a nice place to sit.

Are touregs really that bad? I think there ageing really well. But it needs to be reliable.

[BIRMA]

hornetrider said:

W00DY said:

I'd be concerned about the reliability of a Touareg or Phaeton.

Are they a bit dodgy then? I'm having outside thoughts of next motor and going more bargey. I'd love a FFRR but the bork scares me at my budget and mileage, hence was thinking a Toerag V10 Altitude might be a safer option...

I've run a Phaeton V10 for coming up for a year now and have had no problems. If you check out the thread Guilty Pleasures on here you can get an insight into Phaeton ownership. I bought mine to do the University Taxi run which for me is a 400 mile round trip from Portsmouth to Norwich. Unfortunately mostly the M25 and that other horrible road to Norwich as both are revenue raising camera zones I put it in cruise and achieve 35 MPG in my V10 5litre twin turbo diesel. After the first 200 mile bit I get out the other end like it was a trip to the shops, the cooled massaging seats, double glazing and near silent cabin help. Plus it has one of the best sound systems in a car due to its size the sound develops nicely. There are a few horror stories about the odd car but on the whole several cars have done starship mileage without problems. Bear in mind if they do go wrong like all these bargain barges it could cost you dear but there are quite a few of us on Pistonheads who run these cars and love them.

[anonymous-user]

Bit of a Unit said:

Thanks for the replies.

That volvo is interesting, just the reason why posted. Hadn't considered that and modern volvos are such a nice place to sit.

Are touregs really that bad? I think there ageing really well. But it needs to be reliable.

The 185bhp D5 maps to 205bhp with a Polestar remap from Volvo themselves and my C70 has a 225bhp remap from a company called MTE. You can go higher, there is a company called RICA that do push them up to 260bhp but I think that's asking for serious trouble in a daily. The remap in mine livened it up no end and I've done 25K miles without issue after an initial need for a new clutch

Wouldn't entertain remapping an automatic one though, the Volvo 6 speed boxes appear to be as chocolatey as the 5 speeders.

[pointedstarman]

W00DY said:

I'd be concerned about the reliability of a Touareg or Phaeton. Have you considered a Merc R-class? Could get a nice R320 CDI for your money

x2 for the R Class. 320CDi if you need a diesel or 350 Petrol. Usually nicely specced and 4wd with (in your budget) 6 proper seats. Will do everything you need in supreme comfort.

[Bit of a Unit]

BIRMA said:

I've run a Phaeton V10 for coming up for a year now and have had no problems. If you check out the thread Guilty Pleasures on here you can get an insight into Phaeton ownership. I bought mine to do the University Taxi run which for me is a 400 mile round trip from Portsmouth to Norwich. Unfortunately mostly the M25 and that other horrible road to Norwich as both are revenue raising camera zones I put it in cruise and achieve 35 MPG in my V10 5litre twin turbo diesel. After the first 200 mile bit I get out the other end like it was a trip to the shops, the cooled massaging seats, double glazing and near silent cabin help. Plus it has one of the best sound systems in a car due to its size the sound develops nicely. There are a few horror stories about the odd car but on the whole several cars have done starship mileage without problems. Bear in mind if they do go wrong like all these bargain barges it could cost you dear but there are quite a few of us on Pistonheads who run these cars and love them.

Thanks again for the insight. I've the funds for heavy repairs if necessary so it won't need be run on a shoestring. I really like the idea of the lack of stress you get from the likes of a phaeton or A8. I can take my boxster out for a thrash when I want but it's st for sitting in traffic.

[BIRMA]

Bit of a Unit said:

BIRMA said:

I've run a Phaeton V10 for coming up for a year now and have had no problems. If you check out the thread Guilty Pleasures on here you can get an insight into Phaeton ownership. I bought mine to do the University Taxi run which for me is a 400 mile round trip from Portsmouth to Norwich. Unfortunately mostly the M25 and that other horrible road to Norwich as both are revenue raising camera zones I put it in cruise and achieve 35 MPG in my V10 5litre twin turbo diesel. After the first 200 mile bit I get out the other end like it was a trip to the shops, the cooled massaging seats, double glazing and near silent cabin help. Plus it has one of the best sound systems in a car due to its size the sound develops nicely. There are a few horror stories about the odd car but on the whole several cars have done starship mileage without problems. Bear in mind if they do go wrong like all these bargain barges it could cost you dear but there are quite a few of us on Pistonheads who run these cars and love them.

Thanks again for the insight. I've the funds for heavy repairs if necessary so it won't need be run on a shoestring. I really like the idea of the lack of stress you get from the likes of a phaeton or A8. I can take my boxster out for a thrash when I want but it's st for sitting in traffic.

Interesting I ran a Boxster RS60 with the Phaeton nice contrast. If you can find a V10 you will love the massive torque at just over tick over plus they have everything and I mean everything as standard.

[Bit of a Unit]

BIRMA said:

Interesting I ran a Boxster RS60 with the Phaeton nice contrast. If you can find a V10 you will love the massive torque at just over tick over plus they have everything and I mean everything as standard.

I've found the guilty pleasures thread you've mentioned. Really good insight thanks.

The fact that I could pick one up this weekend for 6k and see how I fair for a few months is hugely appealing as is the stress sapping nature of the driving experience. I really don't want to be slapping 150 miles a day on the boxster in stop start traffic.

[FredClogs]

I've been thinking about Phaetons this week...

W12 Lwb for under £9k...

Surely nothing can go wrong.

http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C636686

Edited by FredClogs on Wednesday 26th August 15:44

[hornetrider]

FredClogs said:

I've been thinking about Phaetons this week...

W12 Lwb for under £9k...

Surely nothing can go wrong.

http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C636686

Edited by FredClogs on Wednesday 26th August 15:44

'Bentley platform'.

Yes. And just to emphasise that they've fitted Bentley centre caps! Christ.

[BIRMA]

FredClogs said:

I've been thinking about Phaetons this week...

W12 Lwb for under £9k...

Surely nothing can go wrong.

http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C636686

Edited by FredClogs on Wednesday 26th August 15:44

If its got a full VW main agent history fully stamped up it's only just run in and you should be perfectly OK, if not I'd be a bit wary and would need to know about a lot of items i.e. discs and pads condition and from what I've heard from the States where a lot of these cars went gearbox oil changes. The W12's are fabulous cars but like all these bargain Luxo Barges you need to have a decent emergency wad just in case. There was a 2010 W12 for sale in Harrowgate a while ago from a main agent I think it sold within days, I'd have loved it but I'll waft on in my V10 tt diesel for a few more years.

[bmthnick1981]

2005 s65 amg;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/05-Mercedes-Benz-S65-AMG...

WANT

[hornetrider]

bmthnick1981 said:

2005 s65 amg;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/05-Mercedes-Benz-S65-AMG...

WANT

Wibble. Can you imagine?

[bmthnick1981]

Sorry just realised this was posted on the last page!

[bmthnick1981]

ATM said:

279 said:

Mustard said:

Lower end of thread budget

http://www.southbournegarage.co.uk/used-cars/merce...

Total lunacy for the money

A couple of these were floating around the £5k-£6k mark around the end of last year but I thought I'd be sensible and wait until the new year but I haven't seen one that cheap since.

Budget for coil packs (£1,500ish) and a ABC system refresh with new pump (Manufactured pumps circa £500, not the many ££££ you often see quoted), filters, fluid and good hose and it should be as reliable as any other W220, but with nothing more than a remapped ECU and TCU they'll bang out 11 second 1/4 miles and put bus lengths on almost anything on 4 wheels from a roll.

Awesome cars, but I do wonder who is spending nearly £10k on them. Too much money to be 'disposable' if a major S600 specific component were to fail but not enough to make a bill deep into four figures a no brainer.

That ad says 68,000 miles. It could be a car which is in good condition but unfortunately that is all it is worth. Such a lot of car like you say and makes you wander if the 65 is really worth double the money.

Down the road from me think I will go and have a look tomorrow.