Anyone know about high temperature glue?

Anyone know about high temperature glue?

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monoloco

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289 posts

193 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Anyone know about adhesives? confused

I need some help finding some high temperature glue that will stick a bit of heatshield to the underside of motorcycle panniers to stop them burning against the exhaust. Panniers are made from ABS (I think)and the heatshield is a bit of Kevlar welders mat. Had planned to use good old Araldite but spotted the packet says it is only good up to 65centigrade and I reckon it's going ot get a bit hotter than that. Any ideas? It needs to be readily available as I have to get it fitted by the weekend at the latest.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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monoloco said:
Anyone know about adhesives? confused
They're sticky.

HTH.

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

217 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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monoloco said:
Anyone know about adhesives? confused

I need some help finding some high temperature glue that will stick a bit of heatshield to the underside of motorcycle panniers to stop them burning against the exhaust. Panniers are made from ABS (I think)and the heatshield is a bit of Kevlar welders mat. Had planned to use good old Araldite but spotted the packet says it is only good up to 65centigrade and I reckon it's going ot get a bit hotter than that. Any ideas? It needs to be readily available as I have to get it fitted by the weekend at the latest.
How much are you looking for?

Edited to add - Just to make it clear, I use adhesives with a tolerance from -40 Celcius to + 140 celcius on average, some lower and some higher.

This wouldn't be applied by way of gun as it is in sheet format and not liquid.

Edited by Robatr0n on Monday 7th July 11:17

R360

4,334 posts

207 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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monoloco said:
Anyone know about adhesives? confused

I need some help finding some high temperature glue that will stick a bit of heatshield to the underside of motorcycle panniers to stop them burning against the exhaust. Panniers are made from ABS (I think)and the heatshield is a bit of Kevlar welders mat. Had planned to use good old Araldite but spotted the packet says it is only good up to 65centigrade and I reckon it's going ot get a bit hotter than that. Any ideas? It needs to be readily available as I have to get it fitted by the weekend at the latest.
Do you mean the kind of stuff that needs to be applied by a heated glue gun?

Dave_ST220

10,296 posts

206 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Surely the welders mat won't get that hot unless it's touching the exhaust(even then i don't think it get's hot-i think i know the stuff you are on about-i used it when soldering a copper pipe?)

645ci

2,920 posts

192 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Cyanoacrylates?
any epoxy glue?
hot melts?

Wigeon Incognito

3,271 posts

219 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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I guess you need high temperature, waterproof, and flexible too. Probably silicone based.

I reckon Loctite 596 would be ideal but it isn't cheap nor is it particularly readily available as far as I can tell from a quick Google.

Edited to add: Sorry, ignore the Maplin suggestion. It's just a sealant.

Edited by Wigeon Incognito on Monday 7th July 11:23

monoloco

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289 posts

193 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Thanks for the quick replies guys! ( apart from Jon -smartass rolleyes!) On the more sensible replies I don't think hot-melt would be a good move as it's likely to get hot and fall off again! Epoxy=Araldite and the pack says it's 65C max. Most of the silicon's work up to high temp but not sure how 'sticky' they'll be as they are mostly intended as sealants -or am I being dim? If they are anyhting like the stuff I use around the bath they'll just peel off again a week later!!!

Panniers don't actually touch but sit very close to the pipe -not a problem on the move as airflow should cool it but if the bike is parked up after a hot run the plastic is going to cook nicely -hence a bit of weld mat to protect it. High temp sheet formats adhesives sould viable -is this a bit like a big patch of double sided tape? If so how do I get hold of some?

Dave_ST220

10,296 posts

206 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Have a look in the Ford section re: ST220 bumper-the stuff i used to stick on the blocks will be ideal-it will NEVER come out, same stuff they use to bond windscreen in.

Ean218

1,965 posts

251 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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If the panniers are ABS they're only good for about 80/90C themselves so Araldite ought to be fine.

nb Araldite and other epoxy glues are quite often cured at high temperature anyway.

pimpin gimp

3,282 posts

201 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Surely the araldite will be fine.

The outer side of the kevlar (exhaust facing) will get hot, but the point of using it is that it keeps the pannier side a bit cooler, hence the 65deg temperature should be ok.


Maybe....

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

217 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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monoloco said:
. High temp sheet formats adhesives sould viable -is this a bit like a big patch of double sided tape? If so how do I get hold of some?
Essentially yes.

Well let me know how big you need and I'll see what I can do. You can buy direct from Companies such as Avery or 3M but we buy in bulk and as far as I am aware they may only sell in bulk although I can't be sure.

V10Mike

586 posts

207 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Silicone will work just fine. Use the instant gasket type, it is rated to 500 degress fahrenheit. The viscous silicone also makes a very good adhesive -you may have to tape it in place while it sets, though.

lunchbox

623 posts

198 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Saw this stuff in B&Q the other day:



Effectively double sided sticky tape, a quick google says it claims temperature resistance to +120°C.

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAct...

That's the stuff. We use it at work.

500psi shear @ 230 deg C.

biglaugh

monoloco

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289 posts

193 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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thats sounds like a good bet -and nice and easy to get hold of (in theory at least). clap Cheers guys!

p4pedro

429 posts

194 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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this may be a little late but if your still looking call at plumbers merchant and you can get a silicon type salant for jointing flues, it can withstand temps of + 1000 degrees C and sticks things like poo to a blanket.

peter

Thud_Mcguffin

267 posts

204 months

monoloco

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289 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Well done and thanks to all who contributed -I think I now have a few options for all the various jobs I need to do -including bike panniers and underbonnet heatshield on my TVR will all be well and truly stuck from now on!

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