''Yeah it's an M3 mate''

[peterguk V6 KWK]

Fox- said:

Can we have a thread where we take the **** out of people in Fords for having a badge on the back saying '1.6' or something? It's pretty much the same thing.

If people have a problem with a dilution of the M brand (And an ignorance of BMW history to go with it, giving M branded normal cars predated the first proper M cars bar the M1) then I suggest they take it up with BMW themselves rather than taking grainy camera phone pictures of 118d M Sports.

Edited by Fox- on Thursday 4th September 21:43

Toys.... Pram

[greggy50]

Personally I see the M and M Sport as completely different things like I do with Audi's S line an RS models and think it is stupid to badge an M sport as an M and Audi S lines as an RS model I do know they is an association I just find it annoying when people do it as I get the feeling some of them believe it will trick people into thinking they have the real deal.

Edited by greggy50 on Thursday 4th September 22:24

[Hyperion]

I passed a new'ish Golf the other day with an BMW 'M' badge.
WTF is that all about?

[carl_w]

pgilc1 said:

Whats with the link to the bmw.com site?

Maybe it's to play "spot the M badges". The exterior shot is too low-res, but you should spot one on each wheel (=4)
Plus in the interior 1 on the steering wheel and 1 on the gearstick (=6 running total)
Plus never apparent from the pictures the kickplates too, which I guess on a 5-series means 4 (=10 running total). TBH I've got a 5-series M-sport but never bothered to check if all four kickplates have the M-logo.
Don't think there's one in the instrument cluster, unlike my Z4MC which ironically has less M logos

[BAHN-STORMA]

pgilc1 said:

hewlett said:

I don't think anyone here has indicated that (they believed) that the 'M' is not associated with M Sport models too.

Edited by hewlett on Thursday 4th September 21:59

Really? Heres a handful at random

When referring to the original post of a 3 series with an M badge.

greggy50 said:

No way is this genuine doesnt have a carbon roof and I would imagine would be very expensive and stupid to replace with a normal metal one it is obviously some tosser trying to trick people into thinking his 330d is an M3 when they is no point as they are both good cars in there own right and he has managed to ruin it.

When referring to a 7 series with an M badge

john_r said:

The lesser spotted BMW M7...

And another referring to the original pic of a car with an M badge...

off_again said:

...passing off a 330i as an M3 isn't the biggest crime of the century, but the owner clearly wants to associate himself with the M3 rather than the 330i for a number of reasons.

And another...

alfaspiderman2 said:

Personally I think the whole debadging, misbadging thing is pretty sad and can't really condone it.

And again...

Ranger 6 said:

it's not an M car so don't pretend it is by having an M badge

One more for luck

J4CKO said:

These types come unstuck when confronted by a real PetrolHead as they rely on fooling those who dont know any better, but then sometimes, knowing exhaust counts, wing mirror types who's the saddo !

Plus a lot more by intimation.

Edited by pgilc1 on Thursday 4th September 22:19

Edited by pgilc1 on Thursday 4th September 22:20

Dude.... you have far too much freetime!

[Fox-]

hewlett said:

That badge just doesn't look like BMW put it there (which is where the humour comes from)..would BMW really dilute the M5/M3 models by allowing M Sports to wear an M badge?

They do. Here are to photographs of my 5 Series Sport. There isn't a single halfords sourced M badge in sight:




And hang on, whats this completely standard non M3?



A genuine 325i Sport, with factory fitted M grille badge. From the 1980's. It's not even a new thing, BMW have been doing this for YEARS.

Many BMW's also have ///M rubbing strips on the side of the car - 328i Sport, 528i Sport, 540i Sport, etc etc - all factory fit.

When an owner buys a car from BMW themselves with all these badges on it as standard is it really the end of the world if they personally decide to complete the look with a simple one on the rear? I mean sure, its not to most peoples personal taste but it's hardly worthy of some of the uninformed vitriol in this thread, is it?

Edited by Fox- on Thursday 4th September 22:27

[pgilc1]

pgilc1 said:

hewlett said:

I don't think anyone here has indicated that (they believed) that the 'M' is not associated with M Sport models too.

Edited by hewlett on Thursday 4th September 21:59

Really? Heres a handful at random

When referring to the original post of a 3 series with an M badge.

greggy50 said:

No way is this genuine doesnt have a carbon roof and I would imagine would be very expensive and stupid to replace with a normal metal one it is obviously some tosser trying to trick people into thinking his 330d is an M3 when they is no point as they are both good cars in there own right and he has managed to ruin it.

When referring to a 7 series with an M badge

john_r said:

The lesser spotted BMW M7...

And another referring to the original pic of a car with an M badge...

off_again said:

...passing off a 330i as an M3 isn't the biggest crime of the century, but the owner clearly wants to associate himself with the M3 rather than the 330i for a number of reasons.

And another...

alfaspiderman2 said:

Personally I think the whole debadging, misbadging thing is pretty sad and can't really condone it.

And again...

Ranger 6 said:

it's not an M car so don't pretend it is by having an M badge

One more for luck

J4CKO said:

These types come unstuck when confronted by a real PetrolHead as they rely on fooling those who dont know any better, but then sometimes, knowing exhaust counts, wing mirror types who's the saddo !

Plus a lot more by intimation.

[/footnote]

And it continues...

greggy50 said:

Personally I see the M and M Sport as completely different things like I do with Audi's S line an RS models and think it is silly to badge an M sport as a M and on an Audi S line as an RS I do no they is an association I just find it annoying when people do it as I get the feeling some of them believe it will trick people into thinking they have the real deal.

[pgilc1]

Hyperion said:

I passed a new'ish Golf the other day with an BMW 'M' badge.
WTF is that all about?

The thing in my part of the world at the moment is VW Golfs with Mercedes wheels....

[Fox-]

greggy50 said:

I just find it annoying when people do it as I get the feeling some of them believe it will trick people into thinking they have the real deal

How does putting an M next to your 525d badge 'trick' people into thinking its an M5? Most of the cars people are sgging off are still badged up as whatever they are - be it a 525d or a 330i or whatever?

[pgilc1]

Fox- said:

I mean sure, its not to most peoples personal taste but it's hardly worthy of some of the uninformed vitriol in this thread, is it?

My personal favourite, from someone who drives an MG ZR, ie, quite possibly the worst victim of mis badging of all time...

sstein said:

Why didn't you wait for him to come back, kick him in the face and then when he falls down vomit on him ?

Stuart

[greggy50]

Fox- said:

greggy50 said:

I just find it annoying when people do it as I get the feeling some of them believe it will trick people into thinking they have the real deal

How does putting an M next to your 525d badge 'trick' people into thinking its an M5? Most of the cars people are sgging off are still badged up as whatever they are - be it a 525d or a 330i or whatever?

Sorry I dont think I explained my self I mean when they remove the 525d badge and then simply replace with one that says M5. The worst example are the M5 replicas based on 525d's I saw one and was going to take picture as like M5's and it did look identical however owner walked up and started and I just burst out laughing. Although saying that have been in proper V10 M5 and when started did seem to sound like diesel although once dad's old boss put foot down this soon went and changed into a V10 bellow

Edited by greggy50 on Thursday 4th September 22:34

[peterguk V6 KWK]

So does the M badge stand for "Mapped"?

[Fox-]

greggy50 said:

Sorry I dont think I explained my self I mean when they remove the 525d badge and then simply replace with one that says M5.

Oh I completely agree with - passing it off as something it's not and badging it M3 or M5 is indeed ridiculous and well deserving of ridicule. Thing is, most of the cars people have posted in this thread to rip the piss out of are not doing this. They've just stuck the model badge on the back of their car rather than simply left it on the wheels, sills, gearstick etc. Oh dear, crime of the century. Call the internet police.

[greggy50]

pgilc1 said:

Fox- said:

I mean sure, its not to most peoples personal taste but it's hardly worthy of some of the uninformed vitriol in this thread, is it?

My personal favourite, from someone who drives an MG ZR, ie, quite possibly the worst victim of mis badging of all time...

sstein said:

Why didn't you wait for him to come back, kick him in the face and then when he falls down vomit on him ?

Stuart

Ahhh yes the MG ZR I not a particular fan of a fellow sixth former who owns one so say quite loudly rover 214i to him everytime I see him get in although he does seem to be getting quite angered by this. I was concidering putting a 214i badge on the back whilst he was not looking as seeing how long it took him to notice lol

[greggy50]

Fox- said:

greggy50 said:

Sorry I dont think I explained my self I mean when they remove the 525d badge and then simply replace with one that says M5.

Oh I completely agree with - passing it off as something it's not and badging it M3 or M5 is indeed ridiculous and well deserving of ridicule. Thing is, most of the cars people have posted in this thread to rip the piss out of are not doing this. They've just stuck the model badge on the back of their car rather than simply left it on the wheels, sills, gearstick etc. Oh dear, crime of the century. Call the internet police.

Oh agree with you entirely if it is a 318i with an M logo next to it hardly trying to be passed of as something else.

[BAHN-STORMA]

greggy50 said:

I was concidering putting a 214i badge on the back whilst he was not looking as seeing how long it took him to notice lol

No, just kick him in the face and vomit on him and see how long it takes him to notice!

[Mr Whippy]

Worst BMW I saw, was actually an Alpina, but not.

Well, it was a B12 Alpina, with all the bodykit, stripes, exhausts, the lot, but it wasn't very fast, and upon checking the VRM on the RAC webby check thing, it was a BMW 728i...

How naff is that? I thought I'd seen one of maybe only 5 B12's, and it was a fake

Dave

[Vee]

Fox- said:

A genuine 325i Sport, with factory fitted M grille badge. From the 1980's. It's not even a new thing, BMW have been doing this for YEARS.

Many BMW's also have ///M rubbing strips on the side of the car - 328i Sport, 528i Sport, 540i Sport, etc etc - all factory fit.

Added by an owner at some point ?
Unless its an M car, BMW don't put the GRILL or BOOTLID badges on 'sport' versions, and I believe they never have done (certainly not since the mid 90s).

ps. That's a very clean E39 you have there !

Edited by Vee on Friday 5th September 08:14

[dan101smith]

My M3 will shortly be wearing a 318is badge, just for a laugh.

And I FULLY expect that to be the start of a thread entitled "Yeah it's a 318is mate", where I will be slated for passing my car off as the mediocrity of the E36 range.

[Fox-]

Vee said:

Unless its an M car, BMW don't put the GRILL or BOOTLID badges on 'sport' versions, and I believe they never have done (certainly not since the mid 90s).

Ah but they have - they did on the 1988 325i Sport, of which the car I posted is one. They also did it on the front of the M535i as well as on the rear.

[quote]
ps. That's a very clean E39 you have there !

Thanks