RE: Police: Crash Gangs On The Rise
Discussion
My dad had someone pull out in front of him from a mini roundabout and then deliberately slam on the brakes putting my dad in his company car into the back of the scumbag in his snotter.
The scumbag claimed my dad was going so fast he didn't see him and pulled out.
The police officer investigating laughed when we proved that with the line of sight available my dad would have to have been doing 290mph minimum, he rather sagely asked "and were you doing that in your Omega diesel?"
The scumbag claimed my dad was going so fast he didn't see him and pulled out.
The police officer investigating laughed when we proved that with the line of sight available my dad would have to have been doing 290mph minimum, he rather sagely asked "and were you doing that in your Omega diesel?"
Chainguy said:
By pure luck, she managed to stop without hitting him, but it was close to within inches.
When she got beside him to see what the phuk he was up to, he just looked at her, laughed, and drove on.
Scum. Scum. Scum
Please tell me he was reported to the Police!! Please. Lie to me if you have to....When she got beside him to see what the phuk he was up to, he just looked at her, laughed, and drove on.
Scum. Scum. Scum
IGL said:
My approach is to completely ignore the cars to the right until the car in front has gone completely. It is the car in front that is your primary obstacle and it is this which you should concentrate on most. After it has cleared, the cars to the right become the primary obstacle, so only then should you concentrate fully on them.
Similar methods can be used when turning right at a tee junctions, i.e. cars coming from the left are primary obstacles, only when they have cleared, is it worth looking at the cars from the right, "if there is nowhere to go, it is not worth trying to get there.
Ian
Me too, been doing this for years.Similar methods can be used when turning right at a tee junctions, i.e. cars coming from the left are primary obstacles, only when they have cleared, is it worth looking at the cars from the right, "if there is nowhere to go, it is not worth trying to get there.
Ian
Edited by IGL on Monday 11th August 12:32
silly chap said:
gti-ted said:
To be fair most of these scams are at roundabouts and the perps brake once over the white line giving you and i little or no chance of reacting in time. 
I bet most of them are foreigners looking for a quick buck
i bet most of them aren`t foreigners. I bet most of them are foreigners looking for a quick buck
gti-ted said:
silly chap said:
gti-ted said:
To be fair most of these scams are at roundabouts and the perps brake once over the white line giving you and i little or no chance of reacting in time.
I bet most of them are foreigners looking for a quick buck
i bet most of them aren`t foreigners. I bet most of them are foreigners looking for a quick buck
tinman0 said:
Chainguy said:
By pure luck, she managed to stop without hitting him, but it was close to within inches.
When she got beside him to see what the phuk he was up to, he just looked at her, laughed, and drove on.
Scum. Scum. Scum
Please tell me he was reported to the Police!! Please. Lie to me if you have to....When she got beside him to see what the phuk he was up to, he just looked at her, laughed, and drove on.
Scum. Scum. Scum
Oh, and he was a white guy BTW, thats certainly not to say he wasn't Foreign, but facts are facts.
2 second rule doesn't always work with these scum. You try pulling up in time when they've used the handbrake only or the first thing you see is reversing lights on!!! Or they indicate wrongly on purpose and 'bang' you've been hit.
Leave a too big gap between you and vehicle in front and they'll be in that gap like a shot! It won't be one car either, as they work in 2 or 3 cars looking for victims.
That's what pisses me off, they have to communicate with each other to find their victim, so they have obviously left phone messages with each other. Accident time is recorded so if it sounds like a scam why don't they follow up to find phone messages left?
But WHY are the police and ins companies high profiling this at this minute? That's what worries me. It's gone on for ages. All this will do is get more dimmos think, ahh I'm short of cash...
Need a sea change. Birch the ........s. That'll stop em, plus they won't be sitting behind a wheel for a while, too bl**dy painful to sit down.
DETERRENTS. Bring em back!!
Leave a too big gap between you and vehicle in front and they'll be in that gap like a shot! It won't be one car either, as they work in 2 or 3 cars looking for victims.
That's what pisses me off, they have to communicate with each other to find their victim, so they have obviously left phone messages with each other. Accident time is recorded so if it sounds like a scam why don't they follow up to find phone messages left?
But WHY are the police and ins companies high profiling this at this minute? That's what worries me. It's gone on for ages. All this will do is get more dimmos think, ahh I'm short of cash...
Need a sea change. Birch the ........s. That'll stop em, plus they won't be sitting behind a wheel for a while, too bl**dy painful to sit down.
DETERRENTS. Bring em back!!
This is nothing new. Years ago I had a mate who reversed his Viva into a post. He came up with the wonderful plan of braking hard causing somebody to rear end him. This would then allow repair of the previous post damage FOC. For ages he drove along looking in his rearview mirror for a likely victim and then BANG, he collides with the car in front!!!
Needless to say, we still take the p.ss today!!
Andy M
Needless to say, we still take the p.ss today!!
Andy M
Kaelic said:
Going on about it right now on Radio 2
Some guy had to drop the "couldnt speak a word of english" bomb lol
Thing is in the states they have these cameras for insurance use, why dont we get offered them here? I would happily take a cut in my insurance premiums if I had to agree to have a wee camera setup in the car to record the last hour or so of motoring.
what do others think?
Having a camera doesn't always provide full evidence and can put you at more risk. These scum worry little and how long do you think your camera would sit on your dash before they ripped it out?Some guy had to drop the "couldnt speak a word of english" bomb lol
Thing is in the states they have these cameras for insurance use, why dont we get offered them here? I would happily take a cut in my insurance premiums if I had to agree to have a wee camera setup in the car to record the last hour or so of motoring.
what do others think?
We have enough surveillance, we don't want more.
Do you want one in your toilet next to prove you were at home at the time?
As already said we need DETERRENTS - not give in all the time. Get rid of the incumbents in power and let's have a real change.
Article "Police are now telling drivers to be on the look out for the practice"
A helpful message from the people that said vandalism wasn't criminal damage unless witnessed.
Apart from keeping distances from the car in front what can you do, what's to stop them reversing into you then getting some witnesses/colleagues to say you hit them. The insurance industry is no better, their habit of paying out and retrieving through customer premiums rather than investigating like they are meant to probably gave rise to this practice.
A helpful message from the people that said vandalism wasn't criminal damage unless witnessed.
Apart from keeping distances from the car in front what can you do, what's to stop them reversing into you then getting some witnesses/colleagues to say you hit them. The insurance industry is no better, their habit of paying out and retrieving through customer premiums rather than investigating like they are meant to probably gave rise to this practice.
Mike400 said:
Orb the Impaler said:
This has been going on in NE Manchester and Bradford for *years* now; I see it all the time.
Luckily the perps are very easy to spot, and everyone I know simply gives them a very wide berth. Doesn't stop problems at traffic lights though: car in front of you, car behind you (full of first car's mates). Car in front reverses into you and claims it was your fault. Witnesses in rearmost car. You get the picture....
Fair boils my piss.
My dad has mounted a discreet camera just above his rear-view mirror, with a recorder in the boot with a loop tape (i.e. once the tape is full it starts recording over itself.Luckily the perps are very easy to spot, and everyone I know simply gives them a very wide berth. Doesn't stop problems at traffic lights though: car in front of you, car behind you (full of first car's mates). Car in front reverses into you and claims it was your fault. Witnesses in rearmost car. You get the picture....
Fair boils my piss.
Means he usually has the last couple of hours driving on tape.
Its a bit overkill and he only installed it because he could (bit of a geek / gadget freak / tinkerer type)
But its got me thinking of doing the same....
At the start I felt a little bit stupid and moving it in and out of the car just felt like a hassle.
Now it's got to the point where I feel naked driving without it.
Some of the driving it's captured is shocking!
There was this thing on ITV not so long ago about these gangs. It was quite funny seeing a driver doing his best to make a bus crash into the back of him. Unlucky for him the bus had cameras on 4 diffents places on the bus so everything was on tape.
Another way was to buy a totaled car that wasnt declared a right off and get another gang member with fake names to say that he hit the car.
I also have to say that all the acused were of asian origin , but im pretty sure evryone does it its just the asians make it into a business
What made me laugh was the sentencing at the end of the programe , the worst affender was fined 20k and jailed for 6 months . Someone who had a 8 bedroom house in posh street with four 50k cars on the drive
Not such a bad deal if you think about it , im pretty sure anyone who would make 2mill a year would take the risk
Another way was to buy a totaled car that wasnt declared a right off and get another gang member with fake names to say that he hit the car.
I also have to say that all the acused were of asian origin , but im pretty sure evryone does it its just the asians make it into a business
What made me laugh was the sentencing at the end of the programe , the worst affender was fined 20k and jailed for 6 months . Someone who had a 8 bedroom house in posh street with four 50k cars on the drive
Not such a bad deal if you think about it , im pretty sure anyone who would make 2mill a year would take the risk
Slightly off topic but does remind me of the time when I had to brake for the car in front of me changing their minds at a junction only for a patrol car to end up in my back seat ...
Thing is I got breathalised !!!
Anyway .. back to topic .... seems plods can run into you and its your fault !!
Thing is I got breathalised !!!
Anyway .. back to topic .... seems plods can run into you and its your fault !!
IGL said:
My approach is to completely ignore the cars to the right until the car in front has gone completely. It is the car in front that is your primary obstacle and it is this which you should concentrate on most. After it has cleared, the cars to the right become the primary obstacle, so only then should you concentrate fully on them.
Same plan I have - works a treat. Your peripheral vision gives a good picture to determine if you are likely to be able to make progress immediately.This has been going on for ages. mounting cameras wont help unless it covers all angles. most of these gangs use decoy vehicles now, thats the one that swerves and gives the one you hit an excuse for slamming his brakes on. the gangs target fleet vehicles, for a quick pay out. Sainsburys has had to pay out a lot. When the 2 parties get out to talk, the driver is a stooge, false id etc. these drivers have nick names and are held in high respect by the communitys they serve. they like to use people carriers, 7 claims at £2500 each. then car storage and hire cars, the list goes on.
Another American import Im afraid but with a British twist.
The usual routine in America was for the local boys to spot the rental car. Pull in front and then hit the brakes. Insurance claim, daft foreigners, job done, easy money. The scam is/was called "Crash n cash".
We just dont bother about the rental bit in this country. As somebody else has mentioned, claiming on the insurance for a crash is easy money these days.
The usual routine in America was for the local boys to spot the rental car. Pull in front and then hit the brakes. Insurance claim, daft foreigners, job done, easy money. The scam is/was called "Crash n cash".
We just dont bother about the rental bit in this country. As somebody else has mentioned, claiming on the insurance for a crash is easy money these days.
gti-ted said:
To be fair most of these scams are at roundabouts and the perps brake once over the white line giving you and i little or no chance of reacting in time.
I bet most of them are foreigners looking for a quick buck
Its an african thing in east london, if you see one driving in front of you leave a big gap, because even if they arent trying to scam you, they drive badly anyway.I bet most of them are foreigners looking for a quick buck
mike_1985 said:
There was this thing on ITV not so long ago...
What was particularly funny about that programme (it was about insurance investigators) was the scam that was tracked down to one man. He was responsible, through friends and associates for hundreds of false claims.One investigation involving him was for a claim on a Mondeo that had been slammed into from behind pushing into a lampost. It showed a crash investigator measuring the impact height of an Escort Van (which was claimed had hit the Mondy) and the relevant hit marks on the back of the Mondy.
The fact the the 2 marks didn't measure up shows the extreme stupid and audacity of these
s!The insurance investigator armed with said info marched round to his flat, told him his claim was rejected then had the battered Mondy dumped on his doorstep. Which was funny!
Not sure how they followed it up with him legal wise though.
What also made me laugh on this show was an 'accident blackspot' which was put under surveillance - it was only 5 mins from where I live and was the exact scene where I myself had innocently rear-ended someone!
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