M25 Fastest Lap

[dogbucket]

Didnt a chap get done for filming himself doing 200mph in an F40 on the M25? quite a few years ago

[john_r]

Baby Huey said:

dugt said:

you know theres lots of speed cameras

but i suppose 3 in the mornign you could do most of it at 70

not sure what that works out as

whats the current record?

doug

The speed cameras only operate if the display above the gantry is showing less than 70mph.

That is wrong! They reset to 70 when the displays are blank.

[Polarbert]

dogbucket said:

Didnt a chap get done for filming himself doing 200mph in an F40 on the M25? quite a few years ago

There was a guy in Hong Kong that filmed himself doing it and then sold tapes to people of it who got done.

Alternatively there was a guy who did 196mph or something similar down the A1 in a Supra who got caught and deported. I think it was the fella who owns the Top Secret tuning company.

[Rawhide]

Polarbert said:

dogbucket said:

Didnt a chap get done for filming himself doing 200mph in an F40 on the M25? quite a few years ago

There was a guy in Hong Kong that filmed himself doing it and then sold tapes to people of it who got done.

Alternatively there was a guy who did 196mph or something similar down the A1 in a Supra who got caught and deported. I think it was the fella who owns the Top Secret tuning company.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2Td1E9_eOPk

[jammy_basturd]

john_r said:

Baby Huey said:

dugt said:

you know theres lots of speed cameras

but i suppose 3 in the mornign you could do most of it at 70

not sure what that works out as

whats the current record?

doug

The speed cameras only operate if the display above the gantry is showing less than 70mph.

That is wrong! They reset to 70 when the displays are blank.

That is wrong! The cameras are only on when the gantry signs are on.

[simonrockman]

There was a radio4 programme about doing the M25 in under an hour. I don't think it came to a conclusion.

I agree on the idea of allowing a race one bank holiday weekend. They could do it on one carriageway and make the other one bi-directional for the weekend.

Simon

[jammy_basturd]

The M25 is apparently 117 miles long.

Hence forth the speed you need to average to get anything less than an hour. To do it in 45 minutes you need to be knocking on an average of 145 leptons.

[john_r]

jammy_basturd said:

john_r said:

Baby Huey said:

dugt said:

you know theres lots of speed cameras

but i suppose 3 in the mornign you could do most of it at 70

not sure what that works out as

whats the current record?

doug

The speed cameras only operate if the display above the gantry is showing less than 70mph.

That is wrong! They reset to 70 when the displays are blank.

That is wrong! The cameras are only on when the gantry signs are on.

Well a friend of mine was the project manager who set up the comms for the cameras... and guess what? They're on all the time according to him - the tolerance is a bit higher but the cameras from the M40 to the A3 are active 24/7.

[Baby Huey]

john_r said:

jammy_basturd said:

john_r said:

Baby Huey said:

dugt said:

you know theres lots of speed cameras

but i suppose 3 in the mornign you could do most of it at 70

not sure what that works out as

whats the current record?

doug

The speed cameras only operate if the display above the gantry is showing less than 70mph.

That is wrong! They reset to 70 when the displays are blank.

That is wrong! The cameras are only on when the gantry signs are on.

Well a friend of mine was the project manager who set up the comms for the cameras... and guess what? They're on all the time according to him - the tolerance is a bit higher but the cameras from the M40 to the A3 are active 24/7.

You see them going off all the time when the gantry signs are on, but never when they aren't. I've been driving through them at speeds that would set them off if they were working for years. Plus, my G/f works in this field and she says they are only on when the limit is lowered.

[im]

john_r said:

jammy_basturd said:

john_r said:

Baby Huey said:

dugt said:

you know theres lots of speed cameras

but i suppose 3 in the mornign you could do most of it at 70

not sure what that works out as

whats the current record?

doug

The speed cameras only operate if the display above the gantry is showing less than 70mph.

That is wrong! They reset to 70 when the displays are blank.

That is wrong! The cameras are only on when the gantry signs are on.

Well a friend of mine was the project manager who set up the comms for the cameras... and guess what? They're on all the time according to him - the tolerance is a bit higher but the cameras from the M40 to the A3 are active 24/7.

If thats true why aren't tens of thousands of people getting tickets each year for transgressing on this section - cos I see it all the time, 80mph or more on that bit....

[Rocket Pepper]

simonrockman said:

There was a radio4 programme about doing the M25 in under an hour. I don't think it came to a conclusion.

I agree on the idea of allowing a race one bank holiday weekend. They could do it on one carriageway and make the other one bi-directional for the weekend.

Simon

That's a great idea, except the bi-directional bit. The opposite carriageway should be for spectating!

[john_r]

im said:

john_r said:

jammy_basturd said:

john_r said:

Baby Huey said:

dugt said:

you know theres lots of speed cameras

but i suppose 3 in the mornign you could do most of it at 70

not sure what that works out as

whats the current record?

doug

The speed cameras only operate if the display above the gantry is showing less than 70mph.

That is wrong! They reset to 70 when the displays are blank.

That is wrong! The cameras are only on when the gantry signs are on.

Well a friend of mine was the project manager who set up the comms for the cameras... and guess what? They're on all the time according to him - the tolerance is a bit higher but the cameras from the M40 to the A3 are active 24/7.

If thats true why aren't tens of thousands of people getting tickets each year for transgressing on this section - cos I see it all the time, 80mph or more on that bit....

Because not every gantry has cameras - only about 5 or 6 in each direction are live and the rest are dummys.

[jammy_basturd]

Exactly.

1. A friend of mine, a traffic cop in South London, confirmed to me that the cameras are only on when the gantry signs are lit up. They also kindly informed me when the M20 variable speed limit cameras went live.
2. Another 'friend' of mine, who often drives my cars should have received several tickets in the past few years.


This is just heresay, but I'm sure I've read that the type approval for those camera systems only allows them to be on when the gantry signs are on. Just like the average speed cameras on motorways type approval only allows them to monitor one lane at a time, so you can switch lanes between pairs of cameras...

[dougc]

jammy_basturd said:

This is just heresay, but I'm sure I've read that the type approval for those camera systems only allows them to be on when the gantry signs are on. Just like the average speed cameras on motorways type approval only allows them to monitor one lane at a time, so you can switch lanes between pairs of cameras...

Again, could be hearsay but I'm sure I've read somewhere that they have to be type approved for one speed i.e. if the gantry sign says 50 but the camera behind it is only set up for 40, then it will not be active?

[Rocket Pepper]

john_r said:

Well a friend of mine was the project manager who set up the comms for the cameras... and guess what? They're on all the time according to him - the tolerance is a bit higher but the cameras from the M40 to the A3 are active 24/7.

And you call him a friend?

[Rocket Pepper]

Baby Huey said:

Plus, my G/f works in this field and she says they are only on when the limit is lowered.

Bin her!

[jackal]

as an aside, does anyone remember a drug that was commonly available in the late 80's named "M25"

i think it was some nasty cut of mdma/speed and of course the name was supposed to represent the time that you spent going round the m25 looking for the right exit to get to the rave off of the M11, M3, M4, M40 etc...

[Speed_Demon]

Didn't someone try a few years back on a motorbike and crashed at approaching 200mph? I remember a new story along those lines.

[john_r]

jammy_basturd said:

Exactly.

1. A friend of mine, a traffic cop in South London, confirmed to me that the cameras are only on when the gantry signs are lit up. They also kindly informed me when the M20 variable speed limit cameras went live.
2. Another 'friend' of mine, who often drives my cars should have received several tickets in the past few years.


This is just heresay, but I'm sure I've read that the type approval for those camera systems only allows them to be on when the gantry signs are on. Just like the average speed cameras on motorways type approval only allows them to monitor one lane at a time, so you can switch lanes between pairs of cameras...

As I said, my friend project managed the communications links for the new digital cameras that are now active all the time. So I think you're friend the 'traffic cop' is either very misinformed, or wants you to get caught?.

Motor Lawyers Blog:
http://www.blog.motorlawyers.co.uk/2008/02/07/m25-...

What Car:
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/news-article.aspx?NA=2308...

MSN:
http://cars.uk.msn.com/News/car_news_article.aspx?...

I could go on with another 100 or so links, but you get the idea!

[john_r]

Rocket Pepper said:

john_r said:

Well a friend of mine was the project manager who set up the comms for the cameras... and guess what? They're on all the time according to him - the tolerance is a bit higher but the cameras from the M40 to the A3 are active 24/7.

And you call him a friend?

Well, like me he's a contractor... but maybe a little bit more mercenary than I am!