100 RON Petrol

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paul r

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1,181 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Sorry if this has been done before but has anyone heard about the new 'Ultimate Unleaded' from BP? It came out today and is rated at 100 rather than 98 RON and costs about 87p???

Will this make much difference??

Rovertron

416 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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To the classic car fraternity, yes, they will be rubbing their hands with glee.

100 Octane used to be known as 5-star and many performance cars of the 1960s used to run on it. They'll be able to use it with a dose of lead replacement and reset their ignition timings back to the original settings.

Basically, it's a more powerful fuel giving more combustion at ignition. Most modern cars are fitted with anti-pink measures so they can run 95 regular and 97 super-UL without the need of the owner to get the strobe light out and adjust.

If anything, more power and perkier acceleration is on the cards but it'll hit your wallet, I doubt this stuff won't even be the same price as SUL. I reckon a 15% price hike over 95 RON but not a 15% performance hike.

sheepy

3,164 posts

250 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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I thought it was 98+ the same as Optimax. It's BPs attempt to steal some of the market share back from Shell. If they are pricing it 10p/l over ordinary u/l, then I won't be changing from Optimax in the near future.

Sheepy

paul r

Original Poster:

1,181 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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U r right Sheepy, It is 98 as per BP's Website.

pwig

11,956 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Their website says this:

'BP Ultimate Unleaded has a research octane level of 97, which is higher than standard unleaded petrol, which has a research octane level of 95. This, on average, gives increased power in certain vehicles. '

So ummmmmmmmmm its their old SUL repackaged...

joust

14,622 posts

260 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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It;s 98 in .au (www.bp.com.au/products/fuels/bp_ultimate/ultimate.asp?menuid=ed)

Funny how many EU countries have 89, 92, 95, 98 and 100 RON fuels all available at a single petrol station - Optimax is 100RON in Germany.

J

edc

9,236 posts

252 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Just order some 76 racing 106 RON unleaded if you want to drain your wallet but go faster.

gdr

586 posts

261 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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BP SuperUnleaded was pretty inferior stuff IMO. I traced a persistent mid range misfire in my slightly enhanced EVO6 to use of this stuff. Always happened with BP Super UL, never with Esso or Shell 98 RON petrol. Was BP lower octane (97 instead of 98) or was it someother additive the car did not like?

Fatboy

7,981 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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edc said:
Just order some 76 racing 106 RON unleaded if you want to drain your wallet but go faster.

Nah, just add toluene in a 10:1 regular unleaded to toluene ratio - 110 octane...

AC79xxx

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Fatboy said:

edc said:
Just order some 76 racing 106 RON unleaded if you want to drain your wallet but go faster.


Nah, just add toluene in a 10:1 regular unleaded to toluene ratio - 110 octane...


Are octane boosters safe to use i.e. will they knacker the engine in the long term?

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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edc said:
Just order some 76 racing 106 RON unleaded if you want to drain your wallet but go faster.


Is that safe to use in an ordinary car? I've checked my manual and it says always use 98 octane - but then bangs on about how the car can use the fuel from 92 octane minimum and adapt...

joust

14,622 posts

260 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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I've wondered that, the X5 says that it will use anything from 89 to 98 and adjust, and "for the driver that wishes to obtain maximum performance 98 RON should be used all the time).

Given to take advantage of higher RON you have to advance the ignition I presume that the X5 is set to it's optimum point for 98 and then uses the nock sensor to retard from that point backwards.

But then I've often wondered if they always rely on the nock sensor, and hence if you stick 100 RON in it will advance the ignition even further by effectivly retarding it less (if you see what I mean).

J

Fatboy

7,981 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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AC79xxx said:

Are octane boosters safe to use i.e. will they knacker the engine in the long term?

The higher the octane rating, the better for the engine - your car may not be able to take full advantage of the extra octane rating, but it certainly won't do it any harm.

Fatboy

7,981 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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joust said:
But then I've often wondered if they always rely on the nock sensor, and hence if you stick 100 RON in it will advance the ignition even further by effectivly retarding it less (if you see what I mean).

J

It should do, but there may well be a point it cannot advance past, just to do with the max octane the engineers thought it would be likely to encounter.

joust

14,622 posts

260 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Fatboy said:

It should do, but there may well be a point it cannot advance past, just to do with the max octane the engineers thought it would be likely to encounter.
I thought that, and assumed there would be some "slack" in the fact that they quote 89-98, but would want some margin of error each side.

Anyone got some 100RON fuel lying around

edc

9,236 posts

252 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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100 RON has been available on the continent for a while but I can't comment on any difference in actual driving or performance from 97/98. As for 106 - a bit overkill for a road car unless you are driving something highly modified. And consider that 76 Racing 106 RON costs £79.00 for only 25L or £39.00 for 10L too!!

Fatboy

7,981 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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joust said:

Anyone got some 100RON fuel lying around

I'll see if I can bring a few litres of toluene to BTaP - you can take me for a blast in the Noble before and after adding it to the petrol tank to see if there's any improvement

FTOeire

2 posts

215 months

Saturday 3rd June 2006
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you guys might want to read this before messing about with toluene http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluene

blueyes

4,799 posts

253 months

Saturday 3rd June 2006
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paul r said:
Sorry if this has been done before but has anyone heard about the new 'Ultimate Unleaded' from BP? It came out today and is rated at 100 rather than 98 RON and costs about 87p??? <br> <br>Will this make much difference??



87P a litre for super UL....ah THOSE were the days!

Paul-C

1,126 posts

226 months

Saturday 3rd June 2006
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Fatboy said:

AC79xxx said:

Are octane boosters safe to use i.e. will they knacker the engine in the long term?


The higher the octane rating, the better for the engine - your car may not be able to take full advantage of the extra octane rating, but it certainly won't do it any harm.


The Octane Booster to use is Millers. Adds up to 3 octane and is the only FIA approved one. I've tried them all and its genuinely the only one that makes a real difference. I have found that using Millers CVL actually pays for itself due to better mpg!