RE: PH Heroes: Ultima GTR

[varsas]

Great car, good luck at Donnington (proper big boys track that one!). £55k sounds good value to me, compared to aerial atom S/C, caterham R500 etc.

Ther's a few cars missing from the top gear wall, ultima, caterham, aerial atom(?) I presume they don't count as road cars? Can they go over a speed hump?

an Ultima is more 'real' then a veyron if you ask me...

[RobM77]

varsas said:

Great car, good luck at Donnington (proper big boys track that one!). £55k sounds good value to me, compared to aerial atom S/C, caterham R500 etc.

Ther's a few cars missing from the top gear wall, ultima, caterham, aerial atom(?) I presume they don't count as road cars? Can they go over a speed hump?

an Ultima is more 'real' then a veyron if you ask me...

Definitely more real life than a Veyron! I've never understood Top Gear's rational behind cars that go round their track. They've had the Ariel Atom on but not a Caterham (yeah, ok, they had an R400 briefly once in a group test). Caterham/Lotus are one of the classic British cars and they never get featured. Yes, they're kit cars, but so was the original Elan - it was the way Lotus did things in the 60s (to avoid purchase tax).

I can only assume they'll only have cars round there if they're "cool". i.e. the Atom's a bit different, whereas the Caterham looks like a classic and is front engined etc.

The end result of course is that people get a really strange view of cars watching Top Gear. The general public probably thinks that some big posh road going supercar with leather seats and air con is the fastest thing you can buy (Zonda, Veyron etc), and don't give a second thought to cars like the Ultima, Caterham, or god forbid a racing car like a Formula Ford or Radical that we can all buy pretty cheaply and enjoy on track. Oh, and what about bikes? Will we ever get a superbike on the track?

[Stevie Mojo]

One day an Ultima will be mine!

[Altrezia]

Always loved Pete's car, ever since he started posting Videos on PH.tv.

Good article. What a car.

[stuart-b]

LuckyP said:

Thanks for all the great comments chaps. Nice to see all the hard work getting it's 15 mins of fame

For anyone thinking of building, it's a most pleasurable experience. A man size Meccano set!!! Just spec it right first time, set your goals and go for it!!

Mine cost about £55K in parts, with about £10K extra on Dymag carbin fibre rims/magnesium alloy spokes,Quaife ATB, Kumho tyres, uprates springs and race clutch.

I had a wet sump to start with, but I hadn't bargained on all the track work - so the engine came out and got rebuilt by Charles Dunn Engineering,who put the dry sump in and tweaked a few other parts to help the engine survive what trackdays throw at it!! (damn - another £10K)

It also has a knock sensor by Phormula to keep an eye on what's going on!!

Anyway -get yourselves to the Factory and get Ted to give you a test fright!!! You won't be disapointed!!

Cheers

Lucky.

Edited by LuckyP on Tuesday 25th November 00:10

Lucky, this video: http://pistonheads.tv/clip1504

Great car! Enjoyed the video, but at 4 minutes, what the hell is powering that Lotus that lets it get away from you?

It sounds unreal!

[hewlett]

I'm interested to know if it understeers. You probably need a track to find out but all of the Ultima's I've seen have a visible understeer tendency and I'd be interested to know if this has been dialled out, can be, dependent on set up/owner preference etc.

[Diesel Meister]

I have to say that Ultima GTRs are the chariots of champions. That is all.

[Zumbruk]

kambites said:

Gold said:

kambites said:

How much does it actually cost to buy one of these then?

http://pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=188 - Used

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/gtr/prices.html - Parts

http://www.amerspeed.com/scgi-bin/showultimaengine... - Engines

HTH

That'll be "lots" then. Looks like they sell for significantly less second hand than they cost in parts alone to build.

That's the case with nearly all kit cars.

[Pixel-Snapper]

Z Cars also had a go at retro fitting twin turbo twin busa motorbike engines to one a while ago resulting in 1000hp and very brown pants!

http://www.zcars.org.uk/ultima/index.htm

[rhinochopig]

Pixel-Snapper said:

Z Cars also had a go at retro fitting twin turbo twin busa motorbike engines to one a while ago resulting in 1000hp and very brown pants!

http://www.zcars.org.uk/ultima/index.htm

Try reading the whole thread.

[BEN66]

Ace, More of a supercar than the 911 turbo, IMO.

[gadgeroonie]

sniff diesel said:

ditto said:

All you need to do is turn the gearbox upside down

Woudn't the gear oil lubrication system need to be changed then?

turn the rear diff upside down

[mackie1]

Zumbruk said:

kambites said:

Gold said:

kambites said:

How much does it actually cost to buy one of these then?

http://pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=188 - Used

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/gtr/prices.html - Parts

http://www.amerspeed.com/scgi-bin/showultimaengine... - Engines

HTH

That'll be "lots" then. Looks like they sell for significantly less second hand than they cost in parts alone to build.

That's the case with nearly all kit cars.

Locosts tend to sell for considerably more than build-cost.

[gadgeroonie]

"Great car! Enjoyed the video, but at 4 minutes, what the hell is powering that Lotus that lets it get away from you?

It sounds unreal!"

it must be a turbo'd one i'm guessing by the flames

[Jay Dee]

stuart-b said:

LuckyP said:

Thanks for all the great comments chaps. Nice to see all the hard work getting it's 15 mins of fame

For anyone thinking of building, it's a most pleasurable experience. A man size Meccano set!!! Just spec it right first time, set your goals and go for it!!

Mine cost about £55K in parts, with about £10K extra on Dymag carbin fibre rims/magnesium alloy spokes,Quaife ATB, Kumho tyres, uprates springs and race clutch.

I had a wet sump to start with, but I hadn't bargained on all the track work - so the engine came out and got rebuilt by Charles Dunn Engineering,who put the dry sump in and tweaked a few other parts to help the engine survive what trackdays throw at it!! (damn - another £10K)

It also has a knock sensor by Phormula to keep an eye on what's going on!!

Anyway -get yourselves to the Factory and get Ted to give you a test fright!!! You won't be disapointed!!

Cheers

Lucky.

Edited by LuckyP on Tuesday 25th November 00:10

Lucky, this video: http://pistonheads.tv/clip1504

Great car! Enjoyed the video, but at 4 minutes, what the hell is powering that Lotus that lets it get away from you?

It sounds unreal!

Yes, what is powering that Lotus?? Its unreal!!! Has to be a Honda or Audi conversion?

[tomedian]

Engine and sussie great, shame it still looks like it's been built in a mates garage.

[kambites]

gadgeroonie said:

"Great car! Enjoyed the video, but at 4 minutes, what the hell is powering that Lotus that lets it get away from you?

It sounds unreal!"

it must be a turbo'd one i'm guessing by the flames

More likely supercharged. It's probably a SC Honda K20.

[Del 203]

stuart-b said:

LuckyP said:

Thanks for all the great comments chaps. Nice to see all the hard work getting it's 15 mins of fame

For anyone thinking of building, it's a most pleasurable experience. A man size Meccano set!!! Just spec it right first time, set your goals and go for it!!

Mine cost about £55K in parts, with about £10K extra on Dymag carbin fibre rims/magnesium alloy spokes,Quaife ATB, Kumho tyres, uprates springs and race clutch.

I had a wet sump to start with, but I hadn't bargained on all the track work - so the engine came out and got rebuilt by Charles Dunn Engineering,who put the dry sump in and tweaked a few other parts to help the engine survive what trackdays throw at it!! (damn - another £10K)

It also has a knock sensor by Phormula to keep an eye on what's going on!!

Anyway -get yourselves to the Factory and get Ted to give you a test fright!!! You won't be disapointed!!

Cheers

Lucky.

Edited by LuckyP on Tuesday 25th November 00:10

Lucky, this video: http://pistonheads.tv/clip1504

Great car! Enjoyed the video, but at 4 minutes, what the hell is powering that Lotus that lets it get away from you?

It sounds unreal!

Nice through Russell at the end P

[dkennedyvxt]

stuart-b said:

LuckyP said:

Thanks for all the great comments chaps. Nice to see all the hard work getting it's 15 mins of fame

For anyone thinking of building, it's a most pleasurable experience. A man size Meccano set!!! Just spec it right first time, set your goals and go for it!!

Mine cost about £55K in parts, with about £10K extra on Dymag carbin fibre rims/magnesium alloy spokes,Quaife ATB, Kumho tyres, uprates springs and race clutch.

I had a wet sump to start with, but I hadn't bargained on all the track work - so the engine came out and got rebuilt by Charles Dunn Engineering,who put the dry sump in and tweaked a few other parts to help the engine survive what trackdays throw at it!! (damn - another £10K)

It also has a knock sensor by Phormula to keep an eye on what's going on!!

Anyway -get yourselves to the Factory and get Ted to give you a test fright!!! You won't be disapointed!!

Cheers

Lucky.

Edited by LuckyP on Tuesday 25th November 00:10

Lucky, this video: http://pistonheads.tv/clip1504

Great car! Enjoyed the video, but at 4 minutes, what the hell is powering that Lotus that lets it get away from you?

It sounds unreal!

I think it's motorport Elise with Audi turbo engine.....400BHP ish I think someone mentioned. The owner lurks around the EVO forum and maybe here....lucky man :-)

[Pixel-Snapper]

rhinochopig said:

Pixel-Snapper said:

Z Cars also had a go at retro fitting twin turbo twin busa motorbike engines to one a while ago resulting in 1000hp and very brown pants!

http://www.zcars.org.uk/ultima/index.htm

Try reading the whole thread.

My bad Rhino must of missed that.