RE: SOTW: Ford Granada Cosworth
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Just seen this SOTW, reminds me of a very similar car my dad had as a company hack years ago - albeit with black leather - I was lucky enough to get a drive in it before some toerag thieved it. Cracking car - big, comfortable and for the time, fast.
I remember reading that Ford had shoehorned the Cossie lump into an Escort as a testbed for a potential VR6 competitor, complete with RWD. Now that would have been interesting.
I remember reading that Ford had shoehorned the Cossie lump into an Escort as a testbed for a potential VR6 competitor, complete with RWD. Now that would have been interesting.
grahamw48 said:
They're not slow by todays's standards. 8ish seconds to sixty is hardly asthmatic for a 5 seater saloon.
I was looking for such a Cossie lump to put in my 280i TVR Tasmin, but was put off by reports of timing gear problems...supposedly expensive to fix.
I think that can be solved, especially if you are taking the engine out... That would have been quite a car I was looking for such a Cossie lump to put in my 280i TVR Tasmin, but was put off by reports of timing gear problems...supposedly expensive to fix.
Oh, road car has been done by others, and I believe several Tasmin racers.
http://www.tvrwedgepages.co.uk/project_cars_coswor...
http://www.tvrwedgepages.co.uk/project_cars_coswor...
grahamw48 said:
They're not slow by todays's standards. 8ish seconds to sixty is hardly asthmatic for a 5 seater saloon.
I was looking for such a Cossie lump to put in my 280i TVR Tasmin, but was put off by reports of timing gear problems...supposedly expensive to fix.
I did read about these some years back because I was thinking about shoe horning one into my xr4x4. They do have a very loooong chain which is from memory 7 foot long. 2 over head cams per bank and they also retain the original cam which is in the middle of the block because this is still connected to some other stuff at the other end of the engine from original layout - possibly dizzy [if it has one] and/or something else.I was looking for such a Cossie lump to put in my 280i TVR Tasmin, but was put off by reports of timing gear problems...supposedly expensive to fix.
grahamw48 said:
Oh, road car has been done by others, and I believe several Tasmin racers.
http://www.tvrwedgepages.co.uk/project_cars_coswor...
Yep - both me and tbdgriff500 run these engines in both our Tasmin race cars http://www.tvrwedgepages.co.uk/project_cars_coswor...
Edited by Keithyboy on Saturday 6th December 11:21
Had the Granada Ghia V6 2.9 auto, just over 3 years old when I brought it, for a tad under 5 grand. Lovely car for the price, my intro to automatic box's, sold on them now.
Brought it with 118,000 miles on the clock Aug 98, when petrol was 69p a litre, kept it for 6 years, lovely to drive, and bags of room in the back for my son. Sadly every year, the MOT and servicing was going up and up, so traded it for a ex demo Volvo, Mine granny was a "L" reg, got 400 quid for it from the dealer when I got the Volvo, just hope it went to another home rather than the scrappy.
In all those years, running costs including RAC membership, fully comp insurance, road tax, MOT and servicing etc came to £16.42 a week, well worth it
Milage on selling it was 180,000
Brought it with 118,000 miles on the clock Aug 98, when petrol was 69p a litre, kept it for 6 years, lovely to drive, and bags of room in the back for my son. Sadly every year, the MOT and servicing was going up and up, so traded it for a ex demo Volvo, Mine granny was a "L" reg, got 400 quid for it from the dealer when I got the Volvo, just hope it went to another home rather than the scrappy.
In all those years, running costs including RAC membership, fully comp insurance, road tax, MOT and servicing etc came to £16.42 a week, well worth it
Milage on selling it was 180,000
fathomfive said:
Just seen this SOTW, reminds me of a very similar car my dad had as a company hack years ago - albeit with black leather - I was lucky enough to get a drive in it before some toerag thieved it. Cracking car - big, comfortable and for the time, fast.
I remember reading that Ford had shoehorned the Cossie lump into an Escort as a testbed for a potential VR6 competitor, complete with RWD. Now that would have been interesting.
They did - I saw it, but can't remember where - might have been the RSOC show at Donnington a few years back (?) - It looked like an Escort Cosworth without a 'whale' tail - cool! I remember reading that Ford had shoehorned the Cossie lump into an Escort as a testbed for a potential VR6 competitor, complete with RWD. Now that would have been interesting.
hirsty27 said:
Good find!!..
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Shame it's an Auto-
though.......BIG-
Been driving for over 30 years now, having had 2 auto's now, wouldn't go back to a manual, of course, each to their own.. Shame it's an Auto-
though.......BIG-I suppose if you have sport cars, or want of another word, ie TVR's et al, then manual is the way to go. I enjoy driving, and now find auto's so just easy to use, if I want a quick get away, I can always stick it in 1, and floor it, not that I get the erge to do it.
Enjoy your manual.
work colleague has just put one in his Mk 3 Cortina GXL. Had the rocker covers painted yellow like the car and it is just a bolt in conversion. It has a manual MT75 box on it and power steering utilising a sierra rack.Looks spot on and does go well.There are some clips on U-tube on how well they go.He picked it up and drove round the M25.He noticed a 'private test track' that a scooby flashed his lights and blatted past him.He thought, might as well.Went past the scooby at some fair old lick,speedo off the dial.Stopped at some services when the scooby caught up.Couldn't believe he had the doors blown off by a cortina and wanted to look at the car. Mate said it got a bit scary, the chrome wing mirrors were getting ready to bail out as well as the bonnet, which was never designed to do that speed.......Book 0-60 is 8 secs in a lumbering Grannie, must be 6.o sec in the tina.
I converted a couple of Cortina Mk3s (one a GXL) to Essex 3 litre, and they went pretty well, and reliably. Also steady as a rock at speed. I'd done lots of suspension work on them though.
Cossie 2.9 should suit the car well, along with braking and suspension work of course.
Do you have a link to the U-tube clips ?
Cossie 2.9 should suit the car well, along with braking and suspension work of course.
Do you have a link to the U-tube clips ?
Had one for over 6 years - completely different to drive than the non-Cossie. Still fast for a big saloon, especially when you kickdown the auto. With some Goodyear F1 GSD3 tyres - will out-handle a lot of the competition. Unfortunately mine failed the MoT - need to spend around £300 to get it back on the road though
Have a look here.The guy who converts them did this one too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJVsDa7VUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJVsDa7VUQ
grahamw48 said:
I converted a couple of Cortina Mk3s (one a GXL) to Essex 3 litre, and they went pretty well, and reliably. Also steady as a rock at speed. I'd done lots of suspension work on them though.
Cossie 2.9 should suit the car well, along with braking and suspension work of course.
Do you have a link to the U-tube clips ?
Cossie 2.9 should suit the car well, along with braking and suspension work of course.
Do you have a link to the U-tube clips ?
denisb said:
In the Prosports/LM 3000's these engines made 340BHP. They can go to 380BHP but the blocks crack.
That should test out the "brake upgrade"!
LOL!That should test out the "brake upgrade"!
I don't belive that in 'stock' form, the LM3000 engines ever actually got to 340, 320 was more realistic (and remeber they were slightly increased stroke from the Granny 2.9's).
the block is the real PITA with these engines, even with significant bracing, the end caps break the block when pushed, other issue is that the blocks weigh a shed load, even with Ali heads etc, they are close to 200Kg's.
All this said, in std form, they are very reliable and seem to go on forever...
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