R8 prices - where will they stop?
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R8 £35k or under in 1 years time.
V8 vantage kicks its ass... which makes the R8 (a boring, mass produced product created by a firm better known for estate cars) a truly painful choice for those who care about depreciation. The V10, the credit crunch and the vanishing novelty factor are all going to nail its coffin shut.
V8 vantage kicks its ass... which makes the R8 (a boring, mass produced product created by a firm better known for estate cars) a truly painful choice for those who care about depreciation. The V10, the credit crunch and the vanishing novelty factor are all going to nail its coffin shut.
TomJS said:
R8 £35k or under in 1 years time.
V8 vantage kicks its ass... which makes the R8 (a boring, mass produced product created by a firm better known for estate cars) a truly painful choice for those who care about depreciation. The V10, the credit crunch and the vanishing novelty factor are all going to nail its coffin shut.
Hmmm all those people banging on about "mass produced" may want to do some homework first.V8 vantage kicks its ass... which makes the R8 (a boring, mass produced product created by a firm better known for estate cars) a truly painful choice for those who care about depreciation. The V10, the credit crunch and the vanishing novelty factor are all going to nail its coffin shut.
jimmyb said:
TomJS said:
R8 £35k or under in 1 years time.
V8 vantage kicks its ass... which makes the R8 (a boring, mass produced product created by a firm better known for estate cars) a truly painful choice for those who care about depreciation. The V10, the credit crunch and the vanishing novelty factor are all going to nail its coffin shut.
Hmmm all those people banging on about "mass produced" may want to do some homework first.V8 vantage kicks its ass... which makes the R8 (a boring, mass produced product created by a firm better known for estate cars) a truly painful choice for those who care about depreciation. The V10, the credit crunch and the vanishing novelty factor are all going to nail its coffin shut.
I'd also prefer to have VAG switch gear than Volvo/Ford bits on the Astons.
2004 04 PORSCHE 911 TURBO TIPTONIC S 3.6L CABRIOLET WHITE. 65k. £33,000 SOLD
2007 07 JAGUAR XKR SUPERCHARGED V8 4.2L COUPE. 18k. £36,800 SOLD
2004 04 ASTON MARTIN DB9 V12 TOUCHTRONIC 5.9L COUPE. 34k. £40,000 SOLD
2004 54 FERRARI 612 SCAGLIETTI F1A 5.7L COUPE. 27k. £56,000 provisional
2008 08 ASTON MARTIN VANTAGE SPORTSHIFT 4.3L ROADSTER. 11k. £54,500 provisional
I'd go for any of those over an R8...
2007 07 JAGUAR XKR SUPERCHARGED V8 4.2L COUPE. 18k. £36,800 SOLD
2004 04 ASTON MARTIN DB9 V12 TOUCHTRONIC 5.9L COUPE. 34k. £40,000 SOLD
2004 54 FERRARI 612 SCAGLIETTI F1A 5.7L COUPE. 27k. £56,000 provisional
2008 08 ASTON MARTIN VANTAGE SPORTSHIFT 4.3L ROADSTER. 11k. £54,500 provisional
I'd go for any of those over an R8...
RonnieP said:
In 10 years time when AMV8's are seriously coverted, along with 355 Fezzas, Lambo's of any name and Porker 911 Turbos, folk will be saying do you remember that Audi, what was its name?
Dont mean to burst your bubble but the porker turbos will not be coveted as they are produced in far too high a number they will be viewed as just another porsche.The Gt variants will probably all be desireable though. AND trust me on this the R8 will be in fairly much the same category collectability due to its low production numbers and for being such an (for want of a better word) iconic car.
By that i mean it came out of nowhere and was a massive hit first time around as a supercar. Very few manufacturers have ever achieved what audi have with the R8.
Also the word is coveted.
djon said:
sjn2004 said:
steve z said:
phib said:
Unfair comparison. Late 07 R8s are avaialble for sub-£60k. So now lets ask this question:-
04 Gallardo vs 07 R8, and you're doing more than 15k miles per year. Which would you choose?
But seriously if you er doing 15k and you are in this situation do you not have a 911 turbo / Range rover etc etc as well anyway ?
No, this is exactly the position I am currently in. Want one car that can do the commute plus work on the track and at the 'ring a few times a year, and not cost me the Earth to run.04 Gallardo vs 07 R8, and you're doing more than 15k miles per year. Which would you choose?
But seriously if you er doing 15k and you are in this situation do you not have a 911 turbo / Range rover etc etc as well anyway ?
I did a big shop on the way home tonight and have done quite a few airport runs in R8s and Gallardos. There's a quite a bit of space behind the seats and the front luggage compartment, although not huge, is not far off a Vantage/911. Just don't go in for Samsonite cases.
Edited by djon on Wednesday 18th February 21:47
By shopping I mean when you buy bulky/dirty items.
RonnieP said:
In 10 years time when AMV8's are seriously coverted, along with 355 Fezzas, Lambo's of any name and Porker 911 Turbos, folk will be saying do you remember that Audi, what was its name?
I think you could not be more wrong. I think the AMV8's tend to be bought by the same people who would buy an R8. Some might tend towards an AM because they prefer its looks and are willing to put up with a performance disadvantage.355 Fezzas in ten years time will now be very old and have been through a number of owners, finding a decent one will be very difficult.
The Lambo's at this point will again be starting to look heavy on mileage and will have had a number of owners. The biggest problem will be the cost of ownership, I am not sure how many people will be willing to put up with a £3k clutch change at today’s prices on a 12 - 13 year old Gallardo.
The 911 Turbo was never a direct competitor to the R8 V8 based on list price but does match the R8 V10. They will never be described as special because so many have been made. Don’t get me wrong it is a great car; just too many 911 exist to make it stand out.
The R8 will only ever be made in small numbers and being an Audi should be bullet proof from a reliability stand point. In ten years I think they will be highly valued as not only a rare car but a car whose dynamic abilities are beyond reproach.
As for the V10 I have so far read or seen 8 reviews on the car and the worst comment I have seen is that possibly it could be a little noisier.
Read this month's Performance Car or log on to Drivers Republic to hear what the reviewers have to say. It could be the performance car bargain of the decade.
sjn2004 said:
djon said:
sjn2004 said:
steve z said:
phib said:
Unfair comparison. Late 07 R8s are avaialble for sub-£60k. So now lets ask this question:-
04 Gallardo vs 07 R8, and you're doing more than 15k miles per year. Which would you choose?
But seriously if you er doing 15k and you are in this situation do you not have a 911 turbo / Range rover etc etc as well anyway ?
No, this is exactly the position I am currently in. Want one car that can do the commute plus work on the track and at the 'ring a few times a year, and not cost me the Earth to run.04 Gallardo vs 07 R8, and you're doing more than 15k miles per year. Which would you choose?
But seriously if you er doing 15k and you are in this situation do you not have a 911 turbo / Range rover etc etc as well anyway ?
I did a big shop on the way home tonight and have done quite a few airport runs in R8s and Gallardos. There's a quite a bit of space behind the seats and the front luggage compartment, although not huge, is not far off a Vantage/911. Just don't go in for Samsonite cases.
Edited by djon on Wednesday 18th February 21:47
By shopping I mean when you buy bulky/dirty items.
And true, although generally owners don't tend to buy manure and wheelbarrows.
No way. Ijust watched a video about the R8 Tdi and it occurs to me that the V10 is not the fastest car in the r8 range. The Tdi is going to be the rocketship of the range and the most expensive to buy. My money says it will crack 200mph and be fairly sub 4 sec 0-60mph. Absolutely brilliant plan if i am right.
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