RE: Tramontana R Edition
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Surely all comments apply. It's both amazing looking and fugly at the same time. It looks like an "I, Robot Part 2" prop. Judging by the Enzo as a comparison the seating position appears almost SUV high, so good visibility of all the sub £100k cars burgering off into the middle distance. But is is a serious racer? The article indicates it isn't (ref: "...not trackday weapon..." rough paraphrasing), which leaves wealthy exclusivity akin to Jay Leno's style of collecting.
For me, I'm simply glad that people are still prepared to push the design envelope, even more so in this over-hyped up "credit-cooling" time.
Best wishes
Jen
For me, I'm simply glad that people are still prepared to push the design envelope, even more so in this over-hyped up "credit-cooling" time.
Best wishes
Jen
I utterly, utterly love it. We need more ridiculous but ever so awesome looking cars as this. Actually don't care if it costs as much as the moon and isn't particularly quite by todays hyper car standards. Look at the guys face - he's thinking, 'yeah, that's right peeps, I drive a fighter jet'.
It's nuts and I love it, the only good thing to come out of spain.
It's nuts and I love it, the only good thing to come out of spain.
FestivAli said:
I utterly, utterly love it. We need more ridiculous but ever so awesome looking cars as this. Actually don't care if it costs as much as the moon and isn't particularly quite by todays hyper car standards. Look at the guys face - he's thinking, 'yeah, that's right peeps, I drive a fighter jet'.
It's nuts and I love it, the only good thing to come out of spain.
Look up Pegaso some time... and I don't mean the trucks.It's nuts and I love it, the only good thing to come out of spain.
Miguel
iluvmercs said:
A question abuot the engine choices....
Mercedes never made a normally aspirated 5.5 V12.
The 5.5 V12 in the current "600" cars is a 500bhp twin turbo set up.
So why would this company remove the turbos, only to up the power to 550bhp? :scrathchin:
If they used the older N/A V12 from the prefacelift C215 CL-Class and prefacelift W220 S-Class, then that was a 5.8 V12.
The 760bhp and 811 ft/lb torque is about right for a modified 600 bi-turbo engine, and I should think has been uprated a fair bit. Brabus got those kind of figures from their 6.3 "S" conversion to this engine.
Darren
My thoughts exactly. The MB 5.5 L V12 wasn't designed to produce 100 hp/L in NA form. I'm guessing that the base version is basically a standard twin-turbo unit with bespoke exhaust and ECU tuning, giving it about 10% more power than stock.Mercedes never made a normally aspirated 5.5 V12.
The 5.5 V12 in the current "600" cars is a 500bhp twin turbo set up.
So why would this company remove the turbos, only to up the power to 550bhp? :scrathchin:
If they used the older N/A V12 from the prefacelift C215 CL-Class and prefacelift W220 S-Class, then that was a 5.8 V12.
The 760bhp and 811 ft/lb torque is about right for a modified 600 bi-turbo engine, and I should think has been uprated a fair bit. Brabus got those kind of figures from their 6.3 "S" conversion to this engine.
Darren
Miguel
Edited by Miguel on Friday 27th February 06:10
red_slr said:
Car behind is an Enzo not an F50.
FFS thats just massive, I mean the Fezza in the background is no Smart car, its quite a big thing. Its almost comically "big", like its been supersized... wanders off to calm down..
whoops, i did know its an Enzo.. honest..!!FFS thats just massive, I mean the Fezza in the background is no Smart car, its quite a big thing. Its almost comically "big", like its been supersized... wanders off to calm down..
Yea the photos in the article dont really show its true size, when i was next to it, it was hard to believe its just a 2 seater 'supercar'
AND I'd have a passenger to laugh with me at the same time at how much cash we still had left in the coffers
Godzilla said:
Alfanatic said:
Yet another one... though this one looks nice. As mentioned above though, it seems a bit heavy, and if those are 20 inch wheels I can believe the car is huge.
It says it's based on a standard open wheeler and then shortened... it also presumably seats its two people in tandem as there doesn't appear any space to get two people side by side. So what standard open wheeled car has a tandem two seat arrangement, or is big enough to accomodate that large engine and a second tandem seat but still have its wheelbase shortened? It's not the Xbow, Shirley?..
It's poorly explained, but they are referring to the "standard" Tramontana (like there were loads of those produced It says it's based on a standard open wheeler and then shortened... it also presumably seats its two people in tandem as there doesn't appear any space to get two people side by side. So what standard open wheeled car has a tandem two seat arrangement, or is big enough to accomodate that large engine and a second tandem seat but still have its wheelbase shortened? It's not the Xbow, Shirley?..
Edited by Alfanatic on Wednesday 25th February 12:18
), hence this is the new "R Edition".
Thanks, that makes sense now!
El Capitano said:
yup as others said its massive, even more so when you consider those wheels are 20 inch. Likewise saw one at Le Mans 2008, if you look in comparison to the Enzo behind it, its bloody massive. Doesnt appeal to me at all im afraid...especially at that money!
Actually, from that angle it looks even more hideous...Edited by El Capitano for calling an Enzo was a F50...!
Edited by El Capitano on Thursday 26th February 11:40
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