RE: Three New Land Rovers Revealed
Discussion
morgrp said:
Sorry to piss on the bonfire, but am I the only one who thinks the money would have been better spent on quality improvements rather than styling tweaks on what were already 3 capable and pretty darned good looking cars? seems like money wasted to me...
Who says that money wasn't spent on quality improvements?Garett said:
V6 said:
Sivraj said:
Why are they testing an off road 4x4 at the 'ring'?
Surely it should be tested across a ploughed field with a horse box attached.
You really think it is designed to go offroad Surely it should be tested across a ploughed field with a horse box attached.
Just out of curiosity how much is this going to cost the British tax payer???
as the Owner of a Delorean
I believe that we are paying for the LRX??
Cant help feeling that the engineering is a bit excessive for the Run to Waitrose and the School.
The Land Rover Dealerships in this country are on there arse!
just thought I'd state a point!
as the Owner of a Delorean
I believe that we are paying for the LRX??
Cant help feeling that the engineering is a bit excessive for the Run to Waitrose and the School.
The Land Rover Dealerships in this country are on there arse!
just thought I'd state a point!
Belfast Boy said:
Cant help feeling that the engineering is a bit excessive for the Run to Waitrose and the School.
Two points here. (1) You'll miss it when it's gone. Anyone remember Mercedes from the 1980's? Built like battleships. The engineering is LR's USP. Without the best 4x4 capability in the market then what is Land Rover? Nothing!
(2) You make such a sweeping generalisation. Quite incredible. It's condescending and patronising. Is Porsche over-engineered for the run to Waitrose and the School? Surely no one NEEDS to spend £40k on a Porsche? Where does that kind of logic end? It's nonsense.
Puddenchucker said:
LuS1fer said:
How is that steering wheel any less complicated than texting whilst driving?
And if the buttons were mounted on the dashboard that would somehow be better/safer?artov60 said:
Placing the buttons in a more convenient place does not mean you have to use them all at once.
Exactly.If modern cars are going to have loads of functions and therefore buttons to control them, the buttons may as well be positioned so that you don't have to take your hands off the steering wheel to use them.
wrightman90 said:
Garett said:
V6 said:
Sivraj said:
Why are they testing an off road 4x4 at the 'ring'?
Surely it should be tested across a ploughed field with a horse box attached.
You really think it is designed to go offroad Surely it should be tested across a ploughed field with a horse box attached.
Merc fan said:
Belfast Boy said:
Cant help feeling that the engineering is a bit excessive for the Run to Waitrose and the School.
Two points here. (1) You'll miss it when it's gone. Anyone remember Mercedes from the 1980's? Built like battleships. The engineering is LR's USP. Without the best 4x4 capability in the market then what is Land Rover? Nothing!
(2) You make such a sweeping generalisation. Quite incredible. It's condescending and patronising. Is Porsche over-engineered for the run to Waitrose and the School? Surely no one NEEDS to spend £40k on a Porsche? Where does that kind of logic end? It's nonsense.
(2)my sweeping generalisation is based on experience of
A living in Surrey with a High ratio of these kind of cars being driven by complete Idiots with little or no car control.
B The RRS that hit my car as it reversed out of a Parking spot whilst the female driver was on the phone!
C I drive a Toyota Vigo
twice a Year in Jungle, Island Roads (Dirt Tracks)and over there Range Rovers very,very Rarely Make it off road unless they have been Jacked up.
Puddenchucker said:
LuS1fer said:
How is that steering wheel any less complicated than texting whilst driving?
And if the buttons were mounted on the dashboard that would somehow be better/safer?artov60 said:
Placing the buttons in a more convenient place does not mean you have to use them all at once.
Exactly.If modern cars are going to have loads of functions and therefore buttons to control them, the buttons may as well be positioned so that you don't have to take your hands off the steering wheel to use them.
Belfast Boy said:
(1) If I need a 4X4 I would buy a Toyota Amazon and I repeat NEED!
(2)my sweeping generalisation is based on experience of
A living in Surrey with a High ratio of these kind of cars being driven by complete Idiots with little or no car control.
B The RRS that hit my car as it reversed out of a Parking spot whilst the female driver was on the phone!
C I drive a Toyota Vigo
twice a Year in Jungle, Island Roads (Dirt Tracks)and over there Range Rovers very,very Rarely Make it off road unless they have been Jacked up.
You're generalising even more! There is more to a "4x4" (presumably you lump Rav4s and Range Rovers together!) than just their off road capabilities. A Range Rover, for example, is a full 5 seater car with a boot and a very high standard of luxury. So, surely then, there is more to it than its off road capabilities?(2)my sweeping generalisation is based on experience of
A living in Surrey with a High ratio of these kind of cars being driven by complete Idiots with little or no car control.
B The RRS that hit my car as it reversed out of a Parking spot whilst the female driver was on the phone!
C I drive a Toyota Vigo
twice a Year in Jungle, Island Roads (Dirt Tracks)and over there Range Rovers very,very Rarely Make it off road unless they have been Jacked up.
Re : your example of a girl backing into you. This isn't the fault of the car. I think you might have to consider blaming the driver for that one! You can't possibly be alleging that ALL drivers of a certain type of car are ALL idiots can you? That would be ridiculous. Again, where does that type of prejudice end? Surely then all Porsche [insert other type of fast car here] drivers are all speeders? Come on.
I stopped and chatted with a Land Rover test driver last week, he was driving a 2010 Vogue 5.0 Supercharged and has to put 20,000 test miles on the car, (I have a couple of external photos which I will try to upload later) there are nine others running around having to do the same mileage. The car was white with tape masking the LED lights and new grill, the interior was far better than my 2007 car, full leather headlining, TFT screen for the speedometer, blindspot warning system etc. Apparently they are having problems with the TFT screen crashing at the moment so are desparately trying to sort this out. After seeing this in the flesh will get my order in as soon as I can find a decent local LR dealer, my nearest two have both closed down in the last few months.
White-Noise said:
Some of those engines sound interesting though
Exactly.90% of JLR euro sales are diesels. This new 3.0 DV6 is top notch hope it goes in all the cars eventually.
They just went from being run of the mill cars to possibly best in class.
Well done JLR.
Though I must say it took you long enough.
Merc fan said:
Belfast Boy said:
yeah we have alot of 1;6 hills around here.
there is engineering for various purposes.
but I suppose it looks good outside the school gates blocking the bloody road.
You've missed the point completely. Never mind.there is engineering for various purposes.
but I suppose it looks good outside the school gates blocking the bloody road.
People have some weird inferiority complex about something being bigger than theirs.
Basically it doesnt block the school gates any more that a saloon would. It just happens that a lot of stty drivers drive 4x4's.
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