RE: 321bhp VXR Goes Toe-To-Toe With Audi
Discussion
I think it'll look good as long as you spec it as an estate, in the right colour. I do think it's likely to be a poor seller, which is a shame - the equivalent Audi is "only" £4000 more. I'd love to see Ford respond to this with a four-wheel-drive monster of their own. I do need a replacement for the ST220.
The performance looks slightly disappointing compared to the horsepower stats, and I do think they'll need to control the CO2 emissions somehow (Audi have managed to keep the S4 within band-F if you spec the 7-speed auto IIRC).
The performance looks slightly disappointing compared to the horsepower stats, and I do think they'll need to control the CO2 emissions somehow (Audi have managed to keep the S4 within band-F if you spec the 7-speed auto IIRC).
I know the market has changed somewhat in recent years,but remember that a lot of companies only let employees,even quite senior ones choose from approved lists hence the existence of £30k Insignias and £28k Mondeo's. In a previous life I was fortunate enough to drive some quite nice if boring company cars and barely a day went by when I didn't think I could have a 2 year old 911 or whatever for the price of this barge,so talk of used S4's etc is totally irrelevant.
The back of the Insignia is really...challenging!
I'll reserve judgement on the looks of this version (great specs at least) until I see one on the road but going on past experience of seeing them it's not a desireable car to be honest.
At this end of the market that's going to be important. Good luck to Vauxhall though, we need more cars like this not less so I hope it's a success for them.
I'll reserve judgement on the looks of this version (great specs at least) until I see one on the road but going on past experience of seeing them it's not a desireable car to be honest.
At this end of the market that's going to be important. Good luck to Vauxhall though, we need more cars like this not less so I hope it's a success for them.
Broken Hero said:
Zoki said:
Broken Hero said:
isnt this a diesel
3.2 V6Autoexpress said:
Turismo Internazionale, the discreet two-letter label is reserved for only the most sporty and luxurious models in the range and comes in both petrol and diesel variants
I know 0-60 isnt a good bench mark these days of big power cars out there but 320 BHP and can only muster 0-60 in 5.8 sec with 4 x 4 traction!!!!it must weigh as much as the moon.............Audi managed 4.8 for the RS2 over 10 years ago and it was an estate with only 315 BHP........
VR6 Eug said:
I know 0-60 isnt a good bench mark these days of big power cars out there but 320 BHP and can only muster 0-60 in 5.8 sec with 4 x 4 traction!!!!it must weigh as much as the moon.............Audi managed 4.8 for the RS2 over 10 years ago and it was an estate with only 315 BHP........
would be interesting to know the standard figures of the new S4DamoLLb said:
Broken Hero said:
Zoki said:
Broken Hero said:
isnt this a diesel
3.2 V6Autoexpress said:
Turismo Internazionale, the discreet two-letter label is reserved for only the most sporty and luxurious models in the range and comes in both petrol and diesel variants
I stand corrected! i think the new S4 is around 5 secs 0-60G_T said:
Mocking aside it amazed me the slating that Vectra VXR got from Clarkson seeing as it was recommended highly by EVO magazine. Didn't really help the rumours that he gets back handers from Ford.
I think TG and Evo tested the car in different ways. Evo tested it on the road in real conditions, while Clarkson tested it round the track with all the safety computers switched off. Seems it's a bit like a stealth fighter, can only be piloted if the computers are running properly. Having said that I would have thought that 99% of people would never turns the toys off and of the 1% who do, probably only for 1% of the time.There's more than a hint of Bangle to those indents on the side.
I hope to be proved wrong, but I'm not convinced by a 321hp Vauxhall. That's not a case of badge snobbery, simply the fact that the Astra and Vectra have always fallen short of the blue oval badged competition dynamically. This is a considerable step up in performance and it'll be interesting to see how they manage it.
I hope to be proved wrong, but I'm not convinced by a 321hp Vauxhall. That's not a case of badge snobbery, simply the fact that the Astra and Vectra have always fallen short of the blue oval badged competition dynamically. This is a considerable step up in performance and it'll be interesting to see how they manage it.
Im sorry you dont buy a VXR or any Hot version of a car, to never bother turning off the traction control.
For the Vxr to beat the Audi it will have to be significantly better, otherwise its not badge snobbery its just sensibility buying the car with more prestige.
They keep banging on about there amazing 4WD system... its Hadlex... hmm...
For the Vxr to beat the Audi it will have to be significantly better, otherwise its not badge snobbery its just sensibility buying the car with more prestige.
They keep banging on about there amazing 4WD system... its Hadlex... hmm...
CHAVXR
vz-r_dave said:
Spokey said:
That car fell out of the ugly tree and got hit by every branch on the way down. Then the ugly tree fell on it. And then some rednecks came along, chopped the ugly tree up and sodomised the car with every bit of the chopped up tree.
Kind of like your Z1 then eh 
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